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82 year old tennis player, bicycler, professional pianist, retired missionary. I so enjoyed the discussion. Sitting home alone on this Friday. Lovely.

I love this. Thank you.

I've known about Marcus Borg forever. Never paid attention to him until recently. Am reading "The God We Never Knew". I wish I could thank him. I love this book.

Sounds like he had a kundalini experience.

Did anyone else think of Richard Kiley when first watching this?

The way to pray is to open our heart like a friend we can talk alot and on everything, just like the way we talk to our best friend

Can we pray without asking or without being thankful

Free from fear

Punitive

God of puniety?

Base on fear I agree with the , hell is a invention of the human mind or diabolic mind set

There is helll but?

Occasionally intervene ?

I love hearing from Jack (John). I am one of those people who senses that at the heart of existence is an ultimate mystery in its uncertainty and unknowingness. I am neither a theist nor atheist in the understood terms but like to be mystical. Jack hits a beautiful sweet spot for me. Thanks so much.

One like. Mine! This is great stuff!

Wonderful talk !

The term “poiesis” can refer both to the medical term, such as the production of red blood cells, AND to the process of bringing something into existence through the imagination or intellectual efforts. Poetry certainly fits as a creative effort. Just ask Mary Oliver as poetry is IN her blood. It’s both/and. Such a great listen! Thanks to all.

Listening to Beldon this morning was deeply transformative for me. Thank you for this.❤

Dear Belden, I have just read The Great Conversation, and for me, one of the most beautiful and awe-inspiring stories in that wonderful book was when you sat by a campfire and read stories to the trees, even explaining references they might not know about. I had a friendship with a tree when I was very young, but I'd quite forgotten about it until I read about you and Grandfather. Thank you!

Wonderful sermon as always! You are missed ❤. You have kept me on the path that Jesus walked. Thank you!

Good stuff. Wish there was a transcript because there is so much substance. I can't write notes fast enough!

I love listening to Jack Caputo.

Marcus , in his excellent book , " The Heart Of Christianity " commends a rational and thus a somewhat demythologized understanding of the "traditional" Christian doctrines and the oracular status of its historical origins and counsel as recorded and expressed in the Bible . I personally regard this approach as intellectually sustainable and if anything , it has consolidated my conviction of the supreme relevance of the Christian ethos , and my commitment to it . If I have any disagreement with Marcus Borg's perspective , I guess it would relate to his identification of this alternative , more nuanced conception of Christianity as the "emerging " model , or new perspective . But really , many of Marcus's historical , textual reinterpretations were in fact consistent with what most of the Church Fathers of the early post - apostolic era understood as Christianity's authentic content and expression . For example , they , like Marcus , never construed a wholly literal understanding of Scripture , but rather a discriminating metaphorical semantic . . Finally , and as an aside to the above theme , I think the best succinct definition of God that I've heard comes from Immanuel Kant ; " The unconditioned condition of all possibility " .

Very insightful !

I wish this was slower.

This is an awesome conversation. I can't express how important it is for people to understand what Holland is working towards. Thank you for bringing this to the internet for others to listen to!

God is a metaphor for a mystery that is beyond all categories of human thought.

I really love these conversations and postings from Marrianne Borg. We can adopt our faith to a truth that works for us and we can take to our very last breath. Thank you so much for what you do.

To grasp Borg's answer, we have to understand his faith. His Christianity is not about blind, dogmatic belief in specific events. It is internalizing the teachings of Jesus - to feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, forgive 70x7 times, to avoid greed and lust, etc. Borg argues for a Christianity based on what we do rather than believe. Whether or not Jesus literally rose from the dead should have no bearing on the mission - to love God and neighbor.

If the old guy represents modern Episcopalianism I would leave the church

Why would this young scholar remain as an Episcopalian?

This old make believe I’m a Christian has a smart disingenuous phrasing that would drive me nuts in a sermon. Yuck!

No. Jesus did not rise from the dead.

I love Brian McLaren's writings. The revelation he had about "the kingdom of God" in the 1990s didn't happen for me until the early 2000s. I remember the major impact Brian had on me when I saw him speak at a Richard Rohr conference in Albuquerque around 2008 or 2009. I have read many of his books since then. He's a bright light! Bizarre as it seems to me now, I think many if not most churches still don't have a clue about Jesus' seeming central theme of "the kingdom of God"! Thanks for this interview!

Caputo's theology can serve as a stepping stone to the theology of Huh kyung young and Rael .

I must read John D.Caputo! 'tis me.

Wrong. Jesus rose from the dead. Oh it's true.

I love this channel!

Barbra’s transparency opens the door wide for those searching for a safe place to find meaning in the present . The host is vulnerable and honest and admits deep feelings that allow the listener to fell safe as well. Outstanding discussion. The book Leaving Church is a an open door for anyone searching for spiritual meaning beyond a church experience. I found her book at a used book sale. It is a treasure to me and one I visit often with a glass of wine and celebrate my own exodus.

Marcus Borg, we miss you so much!!! Your views are so brilliant and they have inspired my faith for years!! I just love to remember your beautiful way with words, your talks were truly “holy moments”!

I trust won't be offended by this suggestion. You need to edit your questions. - much too wordy!

Every writer in the NT proclaims a physical resurrection. So I'd like to ask Borg why he thinks they felt it was important to proclaim such a resurrection. Does he think they were lying? Because it certainly doesn't look they are proclaiming a metaphor. If they are lying about it, or to be generous, mistaken, then where does this leave Christianity? Does it just become a fairy tale we tell ourselves so we can feel good? Does it become a vehicle for an essentially hollow church? Although I appreciate a lot of what Borg has to say, especially his critique of Anselm's atonement theory, I cannot go with him this far. Borg often compares Jesus to the Buddha. From his perspective, it makes sense: they are both important moral teachers, And that's it. He could throw the influential Stoics and Socrates in there as well. And can we have a "spiritual relation" with those people? Of course. But if that's all it is, to quote Flannery O'Connor, then to hell with it.

Oh my goodness, here is yet another session that is so full of the most beautiful spirit, I can hardly describe it. The information is fascinating, but more importantly, it is illuminating, amazing, radical... even earth-shattering, if you will!!! I am so thankful that you have been willing to share the Second Saturday recordings with everyone, freely. This is an absolute blessing for all of us, to help us to see anew and have HOPE!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! Brilliant!

Is the Greatness of the human spirit the Holy Spirit living in us 24/7 ...always available to accompany us in each breath and each decision we make. Or always living in us even when we ignore the Being in us.

Suggestion: Listen to the Massey Lectures with Tomson Highway. They can be found online on the CBC Radio show Ideas. Just a suggestion. Another perspective. The first one is on language.

Oh, how I belong in this group!!!!! How I wish that somehow this was also on once a week or so, in print, and that we could respond in print. Yes, a group to join. People need to say, yes, even in print. That works in the process of thinking. Thank you ever so much!!

This is one of the most incredible videos that I have ever seen!! Honest, reflective, honouring of the multitude of emotions that many bring to the season of Christmas and thus so comforting as no one can truly live up to the ideals portrayed in our society during this time. And why do we feel such pressure to do so? Then such an excellent synopsis of a scholarly approach to the Christmas narrative! WOW! Marianne Borg, I loved the writings of your husband and his thoughts changed my thinking for the better, time and time again. Now I can see the wisdom and insight that you generously share with us and I am so very grateful. Bless you, Marianne!

Thanks

Yes! Thank you.

I have a question pertaining to Arnold Ehret and his comments about Jesus. ✝️🍇🥒🥬 In the Mucusless Diet Healing System, Arnold Ehret says "In Palestine we stayed several months, studying local customs, records and history of past conditions, with the result that my conception of the real meaning of the New Testament gospels was changed very much. I learned that Christ's life and teachings were in strict accord with now well known natural laws, which brought him superior intelligence and superior health..." and "My 'coming book' will state, with convincing proof, that Christ's parentage, so-called miracles of healing, and apparent changes of natural law, his resurrection and ascension, into 'Heaven', were in accord with natural law, but not then, and not wholly now, understood." I have tried to find the title of this book but have been unsuccessful. Is he referring to the book on the topic by Albert Schweitzer, or did Ehret write his own book about this? Also, does anyone know what these natural laws are as they pertain to health? (I know he has mentioned the '"aw of compensation", and the importance of simplicity..) Thanks! 🙏