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Hi there! And that is a tricky one to answer. Typically it's any one or combination of, "seeing," and, "feeling." What you lack, as a viewer, is the ability to also feel the take, as I feel it. My line is inherently sensitive, due to it's thin diameter and little stretch (I feel EVERY tiny bump, knock, nudge, and bite from a fish, as it's felt usually right on the end of the rod and then conveyed directly to my fingertip pinching the line). I don't exaggerate this point...it's that sensitive. And that goes to the rod as well, which had a very sensitive and thin tip, common of most if not all Euro rods. It's impossible to not feel the take with this system, but the built in strike indicator helps a ton, too. Many of this takes, watch my line and instead of watching it plunge or rocket into the water, look for when the / length of the leader hesitates, a pause or even flinch (it can be almost imperceptible, just a momentary pause in the leader/sighter path, is all). That's a take. Set hook. At the very worst, if you set the hook and it's not all fish, you lose nothing. One mantra you will hear often with ESN, "Set the hook, ALWAYS." You will have many false positives, this is normal. I have hours of footage of me catching nothing, just lots of hooksets😊. Anyway, visit the video description for a full listing of my leader formula. The keys are not the brands (however these are known and respected in the ESN world), the key is the sizes of thin lines, these are where you start getting down to mid and then micro leaders (which some of my other videos showcase). Anyway, best of luck with these tips. As you continue to gain experience with this system, just like me, you get very accustomed to what a take looks like. But these tips should hopefully help you and others focus on what that might look like. All right, I do hope I helped! Take care out there, my friend!

@@coreyseverson7484 Hey there! It is private land, but public use for fishing.

Hi and thanks for watching! Very interesting to have stumbled upon these fish as they move out of their reservoir home to conduct their spawn ritual in rivers like the Blue. I hear the spawn this year is starting off rather slowly due to the heat so it's possible these fish just haven't reached their spawn peak yet.

@wetsockoutdoors8538 Indeed, even by my standards that water seen in the video seems a bit thin. In fairness it is the end of summer and all waters are thinning out considerably. I would expect Spring and early summer it fills up nicely!

@wetsockoutdoors8538 Hello there! I was alerted to this event through my local Trout Unlimited chapter, they are all over the nation so you might inquire for your local area. I would start with www.tu.org/. There is a yearly membership which isn't too costly and you do not have to donate money necessarily. My local chapter hosts monthly meetings with guest speakers, raffles, and local information. Not to mention a bevy of fishing events and ways to volunteer. They are absolutely worth looking into, highly recommended if you're a fisherman and want to be involved in these activities. Hope this helps!

@pizzulo8111 I don't believe they stock brook trout normally here (too invasive) . But I do hear rumour that downstream of this video's location, there are more variety of fishes.

Thank you so much! Sometimes they let me in a little closer and I can pull these off ;)

Hey maybe I'll see you out there sometime! I love fishing this area as well, although I don't get there too often. Glad to see the fish are thriving, that's a healthy fishery! Oh Tenkara would really shine here I imagine, my boy is looking into a setup for similar-sized waters. Thanks for the kind feedback and watching, glad you enjoyed!

Hi! Yes this is below the Green Mountain dam, just as the river exits the canyon.

@@BigRyTheFlyGuy is it closer to the Colorado confluence?

@jacobbroduer6361 Agreed! I have heard the bottom section fishes much better for a better variety of trout. When I come back to this location I am going to try below the lake. Still the upper section was so beautiful, you can't really go wrong!

@@BigRyTheFlyGuy oh for sure, we probably would have tried it out had it not been for the restricted access. Curious about the much lower sections though, would expect most of the cutts to be higher but the flow is also way better so who knows

​@jacobbroduer6361 I'm not clear on the restricted access part. I was fishing in the valley just above the lake, and there's no public fishing restrictions in that area. Does it get restricted further up? As far as the fish...I'm a bit reluctant to throw an opinion out there, considering this was my first fishing trip to this body of water...but I was a bit disappointed at seeing only brook trout in the section I fished. They have a nasty and invasive habit (it's in their nature) of decimating rival trout populations, including (sadly) the native cutthroats. My hope is those trout are further up, away from the brook trout, or as you said, further below. That lower section is on my radar for next time, though!

@wetsockoutdoors8538 Oh, no way? Did you happen to have better luck than I did? How far back did you end up going? I'd be curious to hear your results!

@@BigRyTheFlyGuy one cutthroat, absolute pain in the ass and couldn’t even net it. I’ll be returning with my tenkara.

@@BigRyTheFlyGuy it was basically a jungle where we were

@wetsockoutdoors8538 Actually that's awesome to hear! I'm just glad there's life in there, after all. And a cutthroat! I always expect Brook in these tiny, hard living streams. To me a cutthroat is a GREAT sign (awesome catch, too!), I'll definitely have to keep this on my radar for maybe a 2nd chance trip. You may have just prompted a new segment on this channel, dedicated to second chance attempts for anywhere I get skunked. Could be lots of fun! (or more of the first video😉). Can't agree more about the fishing, even my 7.5 ft, 3 wt felt too big for that jungle. I legitimately would get a 1wt just for this type of stream. It's on my radar😉. Tenkara would be very hard to beat here, good strategy, my friend.

@@BigRyTheFlyGuy what happened was a long time ago when they thought they found a green back population, they stocked them in that creek. Later, they realized that they were not actually greenbacks.

And thank you for watching! There may be fish in there...somewhere. After 2 hours of searching for life and finding none to speak of, I am not sure the creek has much of a pulse. Lots of our streams and rivers were impacted HEAVILY by early mining activity, unfortunately. And many of those just never fully recovered (thankfully some great waters have been revived/restored since). But I am always glad to share my trips, whether I catch fish or not. Hoping these help others decide on whether the trip out and back is worth the trouble. Take care, my friend!

Great to see another fly fisherman on this stretch. I first fished this way back in the early ‘90s; been back there with my kids several times since. I can tell you all about fishing this stream. And yes there are plenty of little Cutts in there…

@TroutSoup1 I now know two things. 1) I will be back to this stretch. 2) I need a smaller rod. I don't own a 1 or 2 weight but this seems like perfect place to have one. Great to hear there are cuts back there. I need to devote more than a morning to this area and search further than I did here. Thanks for confirming there is life back there! 😀

@ericmoser5568 I bet there are days like that. In all fairness, most spots are packed in the summer. For this reason I choose to fish (mostly) on weekdays and also early mornings or late afternoons, to avoid the masses. I appreciate the comment about the lake - I did not fish there, but could see it getting busy. There are a couple miles at least of fishable water above and below that lake that do not seem to get the same pressure as the lake, from what I can tell.

Well I'm not sure I've earned that status, but thank you for the compliment! The GOAT would be having a fish with my bud Kevin!

Yes Sir! I can't wait to go back!

It was so hard to leave. I need more time on the Pan!

Mr. Kevin! Why thank you, good Sir! If you ever happen this way, we should set a day aside and go for a fish! I would love that 😀

Thank you for the tips, my friend! I'll definitely check out the lower part of the river next time I go. This trip was a shot in the dark, and gave me several ideas to try next time I'm up there. Beautiful area, you are very lucky to be local to it!

Show me on a map! Haha

Which road has the bridge? 701 ? 6A? 27 ?

@paulfinger6975 Hey, thanks for tagging along, and very glad you enjoyed the video! I'm having a blast exploring and sharing the content and glad others like yourself appreciate as well.

@daveclark1904 Absolutely, I am sure you're also feeling the pain (and joy) of technical waters all throughout the land right now. Always a surprise when you stumble on something as unique as an impromptu beaver dam. Some puzzle solving needed to find where the fish are poking out of but the enjoyment factor is up there! Take care, Dave!

Thanks for the really kind words, friend! The hobby does take us to some real beautiful places, doesn't it? I do really like the Redington Classic Trout as well - solid performer for me, no issues at all! I don't think anyone could go wrong with these rods, whichever length/weight they desire.

Great comment! Would be really nice for Dr. Slick to just incorporate a slight redesign in their next version so there is no need for a workaround. The nippers themselves are great quality and have a great feel - for me they fall somewhere between your everyday-run-of-the-mill nippers and the more expensive nippers (like Abel, which is just so pricey and I can't justify the cost personally). I have been using my Cyclones for several months as my primary nipper with the method seen in the video and they continue to work nicely for my small fly/tippet/line needs. I sincerely hope Dr. Slick continues to improve upon this product; there is room for growth here for an already great nipper.

I haven't tried those but that could be a great option too!

@@BigRyTheFlyGuy yea. These fine leaders are not surprisingly fragile. I have some sympathy for Adams as they seem to be coping a lot of flack. “I’ve never broke my 20lb maxima but this 5x Adams stuff is no good”! Your vid was an honest take. The semi-auto reels are great. Make line management really efficient once you get used to them. But I think your points about taking care are more important.

@@anthonyclark6118 Adams/micro leaders definitely took some getting used to, for me at least. I would just say, there is so much less tolerance for yanking/hard stripping than bigger lines, no surprise there. Today I exercise extra caution if I'm handling a micro line, like Adams. No sense in blaming the product when user-error is clearly the issue. Figured I'd put my experiences out there in the wild, so others new to these small leaders know they are not alone, and to not get discouraged. The benefits of a micro-leader are just too great to pass up - with some fairly easy fine-tuning, I believe this setup could work for anyone. Love the idea about the semi-auto reels - have never tried one but would love to test on the water eventually. I appreciate your comments, as I am sure others will agree!

@@BigRyTheFlyGuy my experience. The micro leader and very fine tippets are very much worth getting on top of. It’s not without frustration though! You go through a phase where that is all you want to fish. But it ‘settles out’ and you start going back to tried and true techniques or learning new ones. For me much of the last season or so has been about when, and when not to euro and within that micro. I think line management is the biggest challenge with micro…so double cudos to you!

Totally, Dave! I hope you get there soon. As always camera never quite does it justice. Be safe, my friend!

@@smaccattack9228 Maybe so!

Thanks kindly! I do try my best to impart as little contact with the fish as possible.

Hello friend! Thanks for your support!

Hello! You bring up a good point about the pass, a bit of research prior to going will benefit anyone looking to go. You are correct, State passes will not work at Eleven Mile, however, Eleven Mile does remain a State park. Individual parks can (and do) elect to charge beyond the scope of a park pass, it's a park by park basis. From the Colorado Parks and Wildlife website: "Please note that passes purchased at the U.S.F.S. Eleven Mile Canyon are NOT valid at Eleven Mile State Park. Visit the Eleven Mile fees page for daily and annual parks pass information."

Very nice! Glad the video timed well for you, you'll have to share how that Adams works for you!

Hello Dave! Technically speaking I think you are able to camp there. Right now that parcel of land is owned by BLM, and is not private property, so technically I think disbursed camping would be allowed. There is a gate off the highway, though, which I'm not too sure if it gets locked at night? There were no hours posted on it when I entered, which makes me think it's open all the time, but I would say it'd be something to look into further if you did want to camp there ;)

Couldn't agree more! Glad you enjoyed that one, with the nicer weather I will be venturing to some new/unexplored locations in the next few months. Stay tuned for more, and thanks for watching!

Glad to share! It was certainly odd trying the micro-leader concept for at least a few outings, but I eventually warmed to it and enjoy using it when the opportunity presents itself. I have to say, since this video, I have incorporated a thicker euro fly line before my leader. This is 100% for feel - I was not a fan of gripping the Adams 4x mono line (seen in this video) with my bare hands, and was almost impossible to handle when using nitrile gloves (which I do often). With the thicker fly line always within the rod guides, I have something thicker to hold onto, and the pitfall of snapping is essentially eliminated with the thicker line. We've had so much wind here in CO recently, I haven't put my micro-leader on in too long - hopefully I will get an opportunity here soon and make another video! Thanks for the comment!

Absolutely get that, it's one you set aside for when you want a little more of a hike in with all the reward once you find your own water without too many anglers bumping elbows. As with all popular fishing spots, working it on a weekday is always beneficial if you want to see fewer people. I think for the 4 hours I was able to fish I only saw two anglers pass me on upstream, nice conversation with one of them, but never once feeling pressured or rushed. Most everyone just trying to push ahead and find a hole of their own, good manners and all. Never had a bad idea experience myself, but you hear (read stories, some have been real let down by an obnoxious angler that may have forgotten or not known certain water etiquettes, things like that). Nothing though but great experiences there, myself. I imagine if everyone just is out to have fun and respect others privacy and personal space, it stays that way for 99.9% of the folk who are just trying to get their fish on. Haha, enjoy it if you get out there, I have a feeling you'll crack it's code and keep wanting to go back. It's a real special place, time almost rewinds when you're out there, nice and rustic feel to it, worth the sometimes deep hike in. Maybe you'll get to the dam...I still haven't been right up to it, but only about 1/4 mile from it I think. I believe that water is pretty roily toily from what I hear, but bet those fish are fun! Good luck on your quest!😊

I hope you enjoy it out there, Dave. And if you find that monster, be sure to let us all know!

Thank you, Dave! It won major points for being a great fighter that day :)

Much appreciated for the kind comment. 😊

Wow, Dave! Honestly I'm humbled by that - I had just zero luck with my nymphing setup - odd because that's usually where I get the most love. Those canyon winds were miserable, the fish just weren't having it. I was desperate for something...ANYTHING...to work. I hear that dam area gets hot...I will try and get that way soon and give it a shot! Glad you had success out that way!