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Ni is NOT planning
Ni INFJ, why ni is not planning, deep dive into casey neistat's interview
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Objective Personality: Why we are all ESFPs (on the inside)
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In this video, I dive into a recent discussion from Objective Personality, exploring the concept of original functions and how we often misunderstand the relationship between functions. Instead of seeing certain functions as pure opposites, I argue that one function often serves as a subset or refinement of another. For example, feeling as a primal function and thinking as a tool to reduce emot...
what does it FEEL like to have Ni (introverted intuition)
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- Differences between Judging (J) and Perceiving (P) personalities - How INTJs and ENTJs use Ni (Introverted Intuition) - The impact of having an Oi function in ops - using the definition based on objective personality system (ops)
Why SE sounds like RAMBLING: The Se / Ni Axis
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Why do lead Se users (ESTPs and ESFPs) love talking in lists? I'll dive deep into Se/Ni axis and breaking down how it's different from the Si/Ne axis. Extroverted Sensing (Se) vs Ni (Introverted Intuition) based on the understanding of cognitive functions in Objective Personality (OPS)
Embarassing sh*t I'm scared of (don't tell anyone)
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What everyone HATES about extroverted cognitive functions (Se, Ne, Te, Fe)
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Why are so many billionaires ENFJs? (What is Fe)
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ENFJs and ESFJs lead with Extroverted Feeling (Fe) - but what is it? Is it just a way your grandma shows affection or can you use Fe to make some COLD HARD CASH BABY In Objective personality these people have been typed as Fe saviors: steven bartlett gary vee vaynerchuk mark cuban patrick bet david let's see what they're doing.
Are you a CHAOTIC personality type?
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Oe gather vs Oi organize objective personality mbti Holly & Felix's video: ruclips.net/video/mA-DPUAN2Ys/видео.html
Why INTJs Can't Enjoy Life (The Pleasure-Deficient Personality)
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Objective Personality - The Truth About Race/IQ (2024)
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Objective Personality - The Truth About Race/IQ (2024)
Are INTPs COMPLETELY BLIND to others perspectives?
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Are INTP ISTP INFP ISFPs completely blind to others perspectives???
Is everything about OPS social types WRONG??
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Is everything about OPS social types WRONG??
The PROBLEM with ExxJs (ENTJ, ESTJ, ENFJ, ESFJ)
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The PROBLEM with IxxPs - and Ti & Fi
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objective personality the problem with Di - Ti & Fi - ISTP INTP INFP ISFP
The PROBLEM with every personality temperament
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The PROBLEM with every personality temperament
The real PROBLEM with ExxPs - Se & Ne
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The real PROBLEM with ExxPs - Se & Ne
Harnessing chaos... for Organizers (si & ni)
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Harnessing chaos... for Organizers (si & ni)
Objective Personality: do you suck at your lead function?
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Objective Personality: do you suck at your lead function?
When THINKERS get kicked in the nuts
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When THINKERS get kicked in the nuts
Why is REALITY disappointing (for intuitives)
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Why is REALITY disappointing (for intuitives)
Objective Personality: What does play last feel like??
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Objective Personality: What does play last feel like??
What does it FEEL like to be an introverted Thinker Ti
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What does it FEEL like to be an introverted Thinker Ti
Objective Personality: What does THINKING feel like?
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Objective Personality: What does THINKING feel like?
yeah dude, i got typed the same type as you and i experience the same thing of just avoiding so many things because of my weak emotional resilience 😭😭. like avoiding certain conversations or topics, avoiding situations that “have” the potential of becoming emotionally hitting on me. avoiding them at all costs because i believe or know that i would be stuck in a rut or hit like a truck because of those emotions + the fear of being humbled because of IxxP issues 😭. it’s like one small thing can spiral and ruin the whole day so i end up doing so much thinker stuff to avoid the hit as much as possible.
@@euvoric when I was going through the emotionally roughest time there was a weird confidence knowing whatever else happens it's just gonna be as bad as this, I think that's what fis must feel. And did you get the exact same type back??
agreed, and since i have a small recollection of getting hit, theres not any times i can remind myself of in order to anchor and gain confidence. and yeah i got MF Ti/Ni SC/B(P) #3. i got interviewed by kendrick a couple months ago :)
@euvoric ohhh dude yes I watched that! I'll hit you up on messenger
Once you give it away it doesn't belong to you anymore.
Fe-we just trying to fuck out here bay-be! Been there done that still trying to forget it. Lol omg 💀
I think… I’m getting a tiny step closer to understanding wtf Ni is with your videos.. still feels like an alien function. Thinking out loud (Te lol): I guess Ni doms see every day or every situation as the same - sort of like the Groundhog Day. Otherwise, they wouldn’t assume “ok, next time THIS happens, I’ll do it differently”. For an Oe saviour every day/situation seems different (even slightly) - so the mentality is “THIS won’t ever happen the same way EVER, so why even bother trying to remember how I’m gonna act/react next time”.
Yes! This is a great point, because in every situation there is something unique, if you are looking with those goggles, also there is something the same if you are looking at it from that lens. Also if you gather oe fast enough, It naturally starts to condense into categories, so that's not a bad way to go about it in my opinion😅
@@jungbuck Thanks for your reply, I find your thoughts to be quite helpful & refreshing! It’s true - the situation depends on the lenses we put on, I really hope that someday things start to condense for me in a good way lol (SF sleep last). I know I’m jumping to another tangent right now, but it’s so hard to resist - please ignore if necessary, I’m being a cocaine addict here. “If you gather Oe fast enough, it naturally starts to condense into categories” - that’s probably true for Ni-Se axis, it seems like Ne-Si is quite different. We sort of over-gather future possibilities and don’t build anything irl. A real life example that has been bothering me for a while: “what’s the point of learning programming or building an IT product if it will become obsolete soon after we release it (seeing the rate of technical advancement - fear of AI, etc)”. If we translate it into OPS speak “what’s the point of Si-ing, if some Ne innovation will cancel it?”. Not sure how the “condensing” will look like in this case… I’m guessing the answer is to accept the ephemeral nature of work & life in general and build anyway - cuz we don’t know what will happen in the future (?).
Okay yes yes I see what you mean. That's really interesting wow, I'm gonna chew on that. Basically it's the Oe problem of too many options, but also not having the Ni conviction of "this is the path this thing is on." Damn this is really good-- because Oe condenses in the short term for the moment, but it doesn't give the "confidence" of the Oi. So Se maybe gets distracted/untrusting on a specific Si process, and then Ne it might answer "what's specifically going on now" but will distrust then after than X will happen, then Z, then Y, etc Thanks for this comment, i need to adjust my understanding a bit To answer the Ti +Ni perspective on that example is-- first it's tough because it's basically why learn spear throwing when guns are being invented? The Ti answer is -- i am the product, so every hard thing i learn, I gain skills and understanding, and that generalized "endurance and strength" will serve me whether I am spear throwing or in the gun warfare. The 80/20 Ni side, is I just need to catch the most likely wave, so that will likely be programming in python, for the goal of something specific low hanging reachable (simple web app). I'm not gonna follow the "proper Si way," instead I will do the lazy new way using whatever Ai can do now to help me make what i want. We already Ni know the future that AI programming will only get better, so instead of "learning programming" I learn to "program with AI". I'm not gonna be the TiSi programmer with 10 years of experience. The new skill is using the tool-- like learning to google the answer. Or like the Ni analogy of when making websites moved from coding to templates, webdevs who moved to templates just cranked their client volume and did it for cheaper, then just asked for help on specific coding when needed. Lastly sorry for the long answer (i'm in the same boat so i have thoughts on this) maybe this is the wrong pathway, but 1) when you have more info, you can change 2) any progress you have to "scrap" you gain in your ability to deal with the problem (like how Fi feels stronger from having gone through a tough time in line) 3) Action is always better than inaction (Oi principle)
@@jungbuck Thank you for “sleeping” for me on that one, very insightful as always! I’ll have to let it marinate in the back of my mind. But yes, Ne seems to be much more short-sighted (the “then Z, then Y” didn’t even occur to me). Sh*t… ISTPs are indeed the best, the “I am the product - endurance & strength I gain will serve me everywhere” is an amazing way of life (I hope to steal it). And yes, Ni is much more adaptable than Si, especially these days, when you gotta move quickly without taking the thing personally (even if I’m Ne, I feel like if I don’t do the thing in the “proper Si way” - it’ll break, which is not necessarily true… it’ll break whatever way we do it :’).
Great points, my man! Love the bit about the _unconscious process._ These Oi types may not _feel_ like planning or _talk_ about planning, but it leaks out constantly that they have a way. I never consciously _try_ to be Di, and I would tell you I don't know my values - yet I'm _always_ leaking out my perspective and what I value. Really good distinction. Love the breakdown!
thankyou! finally! OPS sucks
yes!! I was talking to some community members and they were under the assumption that Ni's have their entire life planned out. Its just not how I experience Ni at all, i dont really have anything planned. It's more of a collective knowing from experiences i've collected what i do want and dont want, like you said, and deciding whether that's right or wrong & what it can add up to over time. but yea its a silent process since its N and introverted
you sure thats not some Di in there too? lol
@ I’m not sure what you mean by that
Thanks, Uzair - really enjoyed this one 👍 Now explain how your (P) IxxP ass got to the point where it can blast with all the tribe chaos in the background. 🤔
Loool it was my dream to be able to do it, I'm gonna do more to prove it to the stupid tribe !
@@jungbuck Man seriously do, it seems like such a great thing to have under your Ti belt. But seriously, any Oi lessons on how you got to that point?
@@nootall I'm going to add it to my list to talk about! As an "introvert" I have struggled for a long time and still do honestly with this feeling of being "stifled" and feeling that way really comes out in these new and chaotic environments. okay I'll think about it and talk about it soon!
@@jungbuck Awesome man, looking forward to it - I think a lot of us with this type struggles from that stifledness, so getting a conversation going should be pretty nice 👍🏻
I can't believe your 3rd grade teacher said that to you!
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Thai temple in the background is next level Se 😅
Have you got typed in OPS?
"Planning" for good outcomes without being specific about it, manifesting good things into your life through being strategic. Without those annoying Si lists. If that's actually possible and works, it sounds like a superpower. And people wonder why everyone wants to be Ni. Or am I getting it wrong? If not, everyone else should steal at least some of it. At least I should. Awesome video! Would you get into this some more and make a part two?
This is great! I have been thinking how Ni kinda of prepares, not plans. This explains Ni very well, thanks!
Ni is CHAOS. Got it 🤣 Tbh I’m quite similar to you, I think the feminine Ne and x2 M Si in me makes me sometimes seem Ni-ish. Even if I do go off of a script, I still do things off the cuff, I prefer bullet points. Reading a script also makes me sound robotic lol. I find my favourite way to plan videos is go over the main points again and again in my head, then when I hit record, just make sure I’ve covered those 2-4 points. I know you know this, but most of the time when I’m not recording, I’m super like “This happened and then this, and then I said this, and they said that”. Very Si boring 🤣
Is that in Thailand?
Good eye 👀
Good insights, but I wish you had introduced these people to give a little context. I have no idea who they are.
You're right I was feeling that a bit rewatching it, I could have padded it out with a voiceover
I dunno. Planning is in the definition of strategy. Also when you plan you are projecting something you want in the future (goal) and moving toward it. That atomic habits guy is consistent because he knows it will get results. Maybe it’s my f Se but I call all of that planning. A script is not what I tend to think of when I think of a plan. But I guess it’s a way to write down what you want to say in advance. I mostly think of long term planning. Goal planning. If you want to be good at something you have to work at it. Knowing you have to actually “do something” is a plan. IMO.
Oh, it's Uzair in Are-You-Tired! 😄 Thanks for the shoutout! I was actually thinking the same while watching your video. Holly and I score both 2 out of 3 on your planning check list. Personally, I feel more comfortable not being spontaneous (introversion/sleep + blast last), and I have a preference for articles and scripts that are well-structured and well-written with specificity to the word (probably saviour sensory + double ST consume). And together, as you said, this looks much more like classical planning than what saviour Ni does. A great reminder that this kind of planning is not at the core of the human need of Oi in saviour state.
I disagree. I plan everything even when I'm navigating uncomfortable and spontaneous situations. My steps, my image, the vibe I'm going for when listening to music. -ENTJ
I'm kinda same but overall it aint much of planning. If I going to shop and I don't know what to buy I just figure out and when I arrive at the place then I make decisions. I don't know what to buy or where to go at first, but once I randomly but strategically pick a place, I just go to the place and mostly make the decisions right on. (I feel the same in relationships, I may not be the "step 1 to get to step 2", I just go to the person and decide at the moment what to say or what to do -- I have a plan, boom, you reached your destination, boom, calculating route, you reached your destination, ...).
this is great! thank you so much for trying to illustrate the mechanics of Ni "strategy" and "how to strategically fast and comprehensive do I bring my thoughts across" seems to unlock something for me as a (B) - which literarily means Ni meaning smudging the lines and condensing input.
I loved the video. It's very very very on point even for what I do with Si. It's not about knowing specifics, it's about understanding how to use a fluid set of ideas to navigate situations that you have prepared for and rely on prior knowledge
What people get very wrong is seeing Ni as an isolated thing. It's Ni AND Se at all times. Just INxJ and ESxP have opposite priorities and polarities. Functions are paired. "Narrowing options in the moment" is perfect to show the basis of Ni/Se
Thanks Uzair 😊 Just in case of a bsfp reading the comments before getting typed: "No you don't have Si, that's just Ni being abusive on the Se."
Thank you. I’ve always found it bizarre when other kinds say INFJs plan. I’m like ‘um no’ Te blind 😵💫🙄.
Not really Te, more Si demon. But Te affects how Ni works Ni is more having vision and strong ideas for one's future and the outcomes one wants than planning, but it still definitely looks like planning to ExxP types. Because Ni users know with their Se what they should be doing at each moment to make their goals a reality. Introverted perceivers (J types) always run their Ni or Si to know what they believe they need/want to do before they look to the outside world to gather data on what is in the world and what they can see. So the Se/Ne is a slave to the Si/Ni and is used to make those needs come true. They try to see what in reality they can use to move towards a goal, rather than looking externally to find things to almost spontaneously make goals. P types are much more likely to just spontaneously take the next step and end up in something. Whereas J types usually are more deliberate and measured as to what they get into. The IxxP and ExxJ types are more balanced than IxxJ and ExxP though due to parent and child perception vs hero and inferior
Thanks so much for this. Very insightful, as I’ve also not experienced Ni as conscious, intentional planning. For me, it’s a constant modeling and projecting that’s always percolating in the back of my head around certain topics or situations. Developing and refining an idealized model of something or a perfecting an envisioned scenario. I don’t really do it with any specific purpose in mind; it is always accumulating, being constructed and tweaked, so it ends up prepackaged and ready to apply when needed. I don’t step-by-step plan anything if I can actually avoid it; I just already know how it’s generally supposed to be and do that. It’s very outcome-oriented rather than process-oriented.
This is my personal anecdote, but this is what i've learned interacting with IXXPs You have to understand that IXXPs desire to be a certain standard because they believe that they don't fit in society otherwise. The INTP cliche being the shining example (probably the worst type for fitting in), but you can see how terrible those people had it growing up in school. This relates to all the IXXP types. They get on these bad paths (because of double-observer) and nobody every teaches them and they can't see that what doing is wrong because they're blind to it. I've found that if your even remotely nice to these people then they'll open up their huge personalities because your not judging them on their flaws. Does modern society promote this isolationist behavior, or is this the path their meant to go on to actually further society in some way?
very insightful, i love it
This sounds like a bunch of rambling. But interestingly enough, you come across like a ENTJ who's having an identity crisis. Either way, this E**J welcome you!
I am all the types
@jungbuck there you go!
I gotta say, I hard disagree with the general idea that SF is more primal. 😮 Anyway, gotta give you some drama in the comments everyone is being too nice😂
i agree
Did you say your consulting fee is $1000 an hour? 😮
As INFP, I truly don't understand. Why so many INFP. Who are these ppl? The think MBTI is like horoscope. Being Fi dom isn't about crying 24/7. Always sad sad sad. INFP can think. It's weird when ppl think I am INTJ. Wth. Online INFP being popular but not sure if they are real. Me as INFP not that cool or popular. As older INFP, it's catastrophe. Also wondering why so many enfp act like esfp to me. That is Se not Ne. Lmao. Enfp not use se often. Smh.
i'm not "a big fan" of racism, i'm the #1 contributor.
So good and soo true! 👏 I love the attitude! Too bad that the things you said about ISFP's isnt always the case 🤣
I have not just impatience but severe anger at stupidity.
Hey u need to cut down your video time to below 9 minutes. Just saying. Love it otherwise.
so you think Dave is a feeler?
"Gotta give credit where credits due. This one is a banger" no no, THIS one is a banger
The more difficult the task, the more feeling shown. Dang. I get it. I just don’t like it! Can’t it be: I cared so much that I double observed extra hard on how to get this done the easiest way possible? 😅
i’ve also thought of this concept and how it connects to how it possibly explains why SF seems to be the most primal and animalistic, it’s serving the sensory bodily needs and feelings of the individual. whereas NT seems to be the most nerdy and “unpopular” of the letter pairings stereotypically speaking.
One more thing to mention is not only Sleep and Play have a mix of primal and non-primal, but even Consume and Blast have a "spectrum of possibilities" depending on the actual letter attached to them. Like, Se+Fi Consume is the MOST primal because it has both S and F attached to it, while Ne+Ti is the LEAST primal. I made a bunch of videos with a hypothetical evolutionary explanation for the functions and the connection between them, I think it's complementary to this video of yours in a way.
You read my mind, I'm writing about just this in the follow up artcile
@@jungbuck similar types think alike 😉
I like it! Makes a lot of sense. Lovely way to boil it down 👌
Wouldn't Deciders aka. Double Observers be more primal as they have the primal function of surviving in the world covered, but due to this, they are not as efficient with dealing with other people? I would think that being good at dealing with people (DD) would be something that developed later, since you are basically sacrificing the ability to work the observable world.
That is along the lines of previously what they said, I don't feel very strongly either way, but the version where observers are the base primal ones, the thing to support that is according to Dave usually the deciders show up once there are a group of observers trying to find the missing information. But good observation, I'm going to write it about it in a follow-up article
@@jungbuck I see. Looking forward to that article. Good job on the video. Excellent points, funny and just a pleasure to watch as always! (Should have probably lead with this last bit... Fe comes after the Ti has been sorted out 🙃)
ACTUAL banger
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That's a nice bench.
As always great insights! if aliens come to us, and ask what a human being is, I'm sure the best answer would be to show them an ESFP xD
I agree that Oe gathering is more primal. I process it by thinking that in order to do the Oi organizing, you need something to organize first. I hope people don't get too confused by saying Thinking and Feeling are the same thing 😂
Blast serves consume: “let’s just do this it works for everyone else” except the number of blasters that disagree with each other…. The consume also serves the blast because we need to consume all the different blasts and weigh them to determine which is more accurate? It’s a cycle. I agree that potentially the consume comes first, but it’s definitely not a linear relationship, it’s a cycle. As always, a good video. I enjoy them even when I am critical/disagree.
good comments- i'll address them in my follow p article - but short response, on a community level everything will cycle (for example even here you are sharing your Ti consume response to my blast, and that will adjust my understanding or communication etc) I was speaking to on an individual level the "foundational" human need is to take in the physical environment and come to a decision (all organisms have to do that because they are in the Oe environment and are Di one entity) so the learning from others experience (De or blast) is a layer of abstraction. And then of course if you have Ne , Ne consume is already a layer of abstraction because its N (which abstacts from S)etc etc
Wait did you make this video in a day or something? Jealous af Great insight. This reminds me of when OP was pushing the narrative of "everyone is a Decider" - perhaps "Deciders" are more primal as well?
haha ii got this one out quick bc it got my brain racing the decider is a good question - i'm gonna address it in my follow up article