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If you only have Fu Xuan as a 5* sustain you should pull for HuoHuo yes .

@@--yaemiko9785 I have limited pulls now. I will see if I can pull for Lingsha since it plays well with my FF team.

@@theoDSP honestly yeah if you have Firefly go for Lingsha next version . Even if she's made for break teams she'll have very good results in normal teams . Not as much in dot teams but still doing a great job as a sustainer

Fu Xuan and giving her Trends of Universal Market LC is your next best option, any other sustains works but not as smooth as Aventurine or the given Fu Xuan option.

If u had been a month earlier u could have gotten a free ratio and may be even aventurine

Honestly u can't do much with just topaz Unless u have topaz lc best advice is to save up for a follow up unit jade is a good pick up if u want someone for pf but better to wait and save up till 2.4 and I heared one of the Unit in 2.4 is a follow up counter Unit

Using Ratio's technique when entering battle gives you a chance to land a speed debuff and this works on all waves, if that doesn't land you either reset or just deal with the gamba until Aventurine ult is up. This MoC buff carries (once again) this team on full F2P LC because of the energy feed, otherwise your best option is to use Trends LC with Aventurine.

Silver Wolf, Pela, Gui, Welt are your choices.

I know that, this run is meant to be using only F2P LC from MoC/Herta shop/Weekly bosses and 3* LCs. I only used S1 GNSW since it is the closest I can get to S5 Fermata :Clueless:

@@Mistilteinn. ah ok I see

I don't have enough good pieces on that set, pulling for everyone costs too much stamina so I just use my old qua set as my general crit dps set.

​@@Mistilteinn.Relatable

Sparkle is definitely >>>. she refund lot of SP with her ulti + teamwide dmg buff up to 48%+15% attack buff. Hanya can only offer 30%~ dmg buff+attack.. Hanya can give speed? Sparkle will do that but way better + 100% crit dmg.

Technically speaking yes you can use any LC and this team "can" work, but it can be a bit rough at times. I do have an upcoming video where I use F2P LCs still on new MoC and the team still functions well and using Trends just makes it a lot comfier.

Swordplay is easier to get stacks as this F2P cone requires high crit rate. If you have Swordplay leveled already then stick with it esp if it's atleast S3+ which is not so behind over S5 Final Victor w/ 100% crit rate.

​@@Mistilteinn.Does yanqing lc works ?

@@NoName-kg4ve It works, disregarding the crit rate part of that LC since it's whatever. Yanqing LC is pretty similar to Final Victor, the higher atk% you have the better Yanqing LC is.

robin is the best choice replace ruan mei or silver wolf with robin

those names HAHA BYEE 😭😭

Yes Gui is your next best option if SW/Pela aren't available. E0S0 Topaz can still work if you really like her, I mentioned in pinned comments for some workaround with E0S0 team for when MoC buff changes or you want to use this team somewhere else like SU.

@@Mistilteinn.the workaround you mention use trends on avent. may i know what are the 3 debuffs? trends debuff, topaz skill and another one?

​@@Mistilteinn. Thanks for your suggestion👍🏻, I think I'm just going to go with Gui for now cuz I'd rather put Aven on another lightcone and Gui is more sp+, plus she gives 2 debuffs already(skill once basic for the rest) with the one on ratio's skill and it's all set Balancing Topaz skill with Robin skill and sometimes Aven skill(cuz of Robin advance forward the shield tends to be gone faster) would be kind of hard and Ratio would have to use his basic sometimes

He gets 48% free cr from 4k defense. You can run Salsotto easily

Thanks, now I know how to build him :D

SW/Pela are the top choices, Gui also can work if those 2 aren't available.

@@Mistilteinn. thank you

Both can work but will face some problems, is your Topaz E0S0? Assuming Topaz is E0S0: Both FX and Huo doesn't have debuff so that's -1 debuff count. FX can use Trends LC for burn if you have it. She's your next best option if you have the LC. Huo is kinda not an option here since MoC buff will eventually change and without free debuff it's gonna be hard for Ratio to guarantee his follow-up from skill. If Topaz is atleast E1 or S1 then Huo can work but your max debuff count is 3 pre weakness break which is ok enough for Ratio to atleast guarantee the follow-up from skill and 4 debuff if enemy is weakness broken.

​@Mistilteinn. Hi I got robin, should I pull topaz? I have no aventurine though 😢 T.T

@@hindachris8768 Unless you really like Topaz I wouldn't pull, read the pinned comment for running E0S0 of this vid's team. You can run hypercarry Ratio with Robin if Silver Wolf/Pela is available to use.

Read the pinned comment for more info on running this team on future MoC or other contents as full F2P LCs.

I hope you have atleast E1/S1 Topaz or Trends Aventurine cope for Ratio to still function well on this team when MoC changes or using this team outside MoC xdd. Goodluck on Firefly pulls tho👌

@@Mistilteinn. sadly i do have to cope with trends on aventurine i just wanted topaz cause i like her

​@@avionu3122bro I'm already coping with acheron e0s0 with pela who has no Luka lc and needed rotation with sampo and gui and I switch gui with pela on ratio team depending on weakness type , I pull for robin now I'm trying to get topaz e0s0 , i don't think this game ever let's go without coping you always need Signature Lcs or the edilons for certain teams to works

It's because of MoC Turbulence buff, which what makes this team able to do this much with F2P LCs, refer to the pinned comment for when the buff changes or running this team outside of MoC.

@@Mistilteinn. Oh I see... I wanted to ask if I could pull Topaz for the Fua team, because I have Ratio, Robin, and Aventurine. But i am f2p and i can't pull lighcone topaz for now. So how do you maximize Fua ratio if debuff is lacking? Is it still worth it to pull topaz without the Signature or E1? I still have Stellar jade but for the botthil and his signature

@@GNANYAthnyanglalu you just have to use topaz skill every single action to maintain the debuff and run trend on aventurine to proc all the debuff

As someone mentioned already you'll have to use Trends of Universal Market LC on Aventurine for the burn, this way you'll get minimum 3 debuffs (burn from trends, -eff res from Ratio skill and Topaz skill) on 1 target which is enough for Ratio to guarantee his follow-up from his skill, 4 debuffs when Aventurine ult is used and 5 when enemy is weakness broken.

@@GNANYAthnyanglalu e0s0 topaz generally not worth unless you like her; pela is the best replacement in this team. boothill is a much better pull... just skip

Do you recommend any light cones specially for this team over others to get the debuffs and stuff? Thank you

The only alternative to get more debuffs if not using any signature is Aventurine using Trends, this is the bare minimum if you want to play this team when the MoC buff changes and anywhere else. You either choose Ratio or Topaz as carry and replace one of them if you want to run other supports. If ever you decide to pull for a signature during their banner or future reruns, Topaz E1/S1 is the most important piece for this team, S1 being my personal choice.

@@Mistilteinn. I appreciate your help! I’m new to such mechanics so it’s challenging for me to decide. I was just worried about pulling for her lc and somehow she suddenly gets powercreeped somehow… but I would say that my team will work regardless. I’m f2p and I got Aventurine E0S0, Robin E0S0, Ratio E0S0 so basically it would be pretty much f2p except for Topaz who hopefully would be E0S1 Thank you though!

Is e0s0 topaz okay with e0s1 aventurine? That's 3 debuffs in total then I think ratio has a debuff aswell. I wanted topaz lc but I lost the first 50/50 on her so didn't have enough pulls sadly.

@@TheRedOGRE Yes that's good and should be easy enough to maintain 3+ debuffs for Ratio, 4 debuffs with Aventurine ult and 5 when enemy is broken.

I did get Robin and here it is, with relic adjustments but Ratio and Topaz's dmg should be relatively same/close with the quantum set from before. If anything getting Robin while having RM lets you use RM in other teams that needs her more like Super Break teams. ruclips.net/video/UrMROoecPiU/видео.html

Its good on everyone

Because the enemies (Dino and Cocolia) are weak to Quantum. And that relic set ignores 10% DEF + another 10 % more if enemy is weak to Quantum. Hope this helps 😊

It's a universal set for crit dps (just ignore the 2 set bonus)

Apologies for some Essaying, I might have gone on too many tangent as I'm pretty bad at explaining my thoughts xdd. E0S0 Topaz most of the time is a sidegrade from a debuffer Nihility (SW/Pela) or Harmony units. She is not a must but definitely helps to free your characters if you need them on other teams or not having any alternatives. In this case SW replaces her or if you have SW, Topaz can replace RM and the team is just as strong or could be better on some situations. As for Robin although her full potential is her being on a follow up team, it's kinda the same as being a sidegrade/upgrade from RM and being able to use RM or other Harmony unit in other teams as you'd want to have SW/Pela rather than using both Robin and RM at the same time. Note that if Aventurine and/or Topaz are E0S0 (Ave w/o Trends either) you're gonna lack some debuff to maximize Ratio's passive (considering MoC buff is different) since RM's ult makes it so that you apply 1 debuff hitting an enemy, RM covers Aventurine's ult debuff not having a good uptime to atleast hit the 3 debuff count for Ratio's 100% follow up trace. This changes if Pela/SW is in the team. Your question is about Topaz or Robin but to add if ever you want an opinion for having both: The team of Aventurine, Ratio, Topaz and Robin is it's own thing. Not having SW to proc Quantum set, not having RM for fast weakness breaks and not having all the debuff to maximize Ratio's traces. Despite all these, Robin enables this team to tackle almost everything esp if bosses has atleast either Fire or Img weakness. The team's ST dmg output is pretty good even on a full F2P setting. I would correlate this team's ability/potential to take on a lot of situations to current DoT staple (Kafka, Swan and RM). Pretty much a fixed team and probably most fun follow up team to play as well. Refer back to the first two statements for team options if you don't plan to pull Robin and Topaz. If you have additional questions feel free to ask again.

​@@Mistilteinn.I have ratio, aventurine, robin. All of them are e0s0. I planned to pull for topaz too, but I heard that at e0s0 she is not that good. I wonder will ratio meet lack of debuffs with topaz in that teem or it will be ok? Will it be better to get someone like silverwolf instead of topaz? (I can't take 4 stars nihility characters since they are in acheron team). Also planned to pull for jade in the future and looks like she is op in fua teams, so maybe topaz is good investment for her?

The problem with this E0S0 team for Ratio is when MoC (current one hard carries this E0S0 team) or other encounters doesn't give you free debuff on hit, then it's gonna be rough for Ratio to do dmg and you'd want atleast E1/S1 Topaz. If you're willing to sacrifice Aventurine's dmg a bit then you can use Trends LC to cover debuff and should be able to atleast get 3 stacks for Ratio's guaranteed follow-up. As for Jade, she's looking to be a PF char and she wants teammates that attacks multiple targets frequently. Jade with Topaz is also viable for SU stuff, but currently she is def made for PF and we will have to wait for possible adjustment to her kit if they can take on MoC (with enough investment probably) or the new upcoming mode.

@@Mistilteinn. What about Ratio Topaz s1 and Robin? I don't have Aventurine, I was thinking of getting FuXuan next banner but should I skip her and keep saving for Aven's rerun instead?

Here's the Robin edition with relic adjustments but Ratio and Topaz's dmg should be relatively same/close with the quantum set from before. ruclips.net/video/UrMROoecPiU/видео.html

Follow-up Attack.

It’s not perfect, It’s relatable

Its more relatable having 180 break effect vs having 160 spd

160 be is what we call relatable ​@@ColieSilo

@@Yinseirei she has “155%” if you take in her trace that gives 20 break effect,if they were to run the break effect planar they”d easily over cap, and maybe the crit dmg boost is better on the team they use

I'm in the same situation, I wanted to get the cone in this rerun, because it's going to take a while for her to come back, but have the opportunity to close the dream team with robin I still have to get the topaz :/

​@@JoeyRoan I KNOW IT! Spend 270 pulls on E1 R1 Topaz on ger realise 😎

Get topaz lc robin will have a rerun earlier than topaz

Idk it depends on if they have ruan mei or not if not then robin​@@abu.9667

one more reason to use the pioneer set is that the def set domain is quite outdated

@@L_H_P its still best for sustain especially for ppl who have a set for gepard previously