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Casting insulating, light weight refractory cement.
I have made a previous video about casting dense refractory cement but casting an insulating mix is far more difficult…..
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Let’s have another go….
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Yesterdays fire was a bit to fierce, let’s try a few changes……
Vortex stove is on fire!
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Another little experiment with a U shaped vortex chamber
Vortex stove
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This is a terrible video but I am going on holiday tomorrow and I just wanted to show you guys that I might of finally worked out a way to stop over fueling!
Let’s try this…. and Halloween is coming…
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Just another little experiment, no major developments but a bit of fun on a dull afternoon.
Vortex J tube, new secondary air.
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My vortex J tube has really worked well for me over the last few years but I thought I would try out a slight variation and super heat the secondary air before it is fed directly into the riser.
Vortex stove new model!
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The vortex stove has been working pretty well but still room for improvement, so let’s try a few changes…..
Silver and lead mine
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This is one of many mines that were dug out in the mid 1800 throughout the Channel Islands. It seems the working stated off quite small as they followed the source of material and then opens up as the vane got bigger but, then it petered out to nothing. There is a another shaft vey close by that is said to have been more productive but in any case these adits and mines were not very profitable....
Still going strong!
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Hi folk, sorry for the wait but I will be back soon with more content…..
Rocket Stove, new barrel and more air control.
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Lets give the stove a nice new barrel for christmas …..
IMG 1287. Tweaking the vortex stove
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I have found the stove has been running a bit to hot for comfort so let’s see if we can throttle it down a bit….
Vortex J tube …. clean up the flame.
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Vortex J tube …. clean up the flame.
Mixing refractory cement for casting.
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Mixing refractory cement for casting.
Just an idea.. Before adding water, put all ingredients in a plastic bag, fill the bag with air and close off. Shake the bag like billy-o and it should break up the fibers and mix the dry cement and vermiculite. One question.. How do you cut your glass? I see you have a electric hob glass top. Thanks for the great videos!!
@@SomaTech-vd2bx I use a standard glass cutter, it cuts like normal glass just a bit harder! There is a video showing me cut ceramic glass, I will look for it later……
Hi. I'm from Poland. I have built several wood stoves in various configurations and from my experience, primary air alone is enough as long as there is enough of it. The problem with secondary air is that it requires proper regulation at various stages of combustion. This means you would have to sit at the stove and monitor the proper air supply for hours. Thanks for your work. Good luck
I bet the vermiculite boards are made under strong compression. Try your mixes again, but this time make a little form where you can pile in the mix and then pound it down. For example, make a little rectangle by screwing together some scrap 2x4 pieces, place it onto a piece of plastic on a cement floor, pound it down (perhaps by hammering on another bit of wood that fits into your mold). Maybe try different amounts of water as well.
@@kevinyoung4053 thanks for your interest, I made this video just for entertainment but I have been testing vermiculite mixes for many years and tried compressing the stuff before. When using refractory cement, there is a very specific amount of water required but when combined with porous material it does not seem to work very well. So the amount of water or the time the graduals are soaked for can make or break the end result. When you compress the graduals the insulating properties are hugely affected and if the end product comes in contact with any moisture it will expand and crack! I think the board is made from vermiculite dust, clay and some other additives but the recipe is a mystery.
use clay instead of cement
Amazing ! Well done mate!
Loving the recent videos, keep them coming
In my understanding vermiculite is a natural mineral that expands when baked. I guess the boards are made baking the raw mineral in a rigid form, smaller than the freely expanded volume, so that the grains interlock due to their own expansion
Very interesting. Maybe they’re using water-glass in it?
Wanted to say the same thing. Also use perlite instead of vermiculite maybe, as I think i read somewhere it can stand higher temps. Maybe there was not enough water in the mixture for the cement while curing. Or the ratio of cement to aggregate might not be optimal. The board probably has been pressed, thus preventing pockets. I'd suggest put a bit more foundry-cement it the mix, and let it cure under water, prevent it from drying out for at least 24 hours. Better yet, a whole week. Cheers !
Same idea when I saw this. ruclips.net/video/wzUXVwf_hOA/видео.htmlsi=P3M-wds7P8NWXP7N
Love the vortex stove. The link above is for honeydo carpenters water glass experiments
what exactly is "over fueling"?
@@thedavesofourlives1 overfueling is when the fire produces to much gas (fuel) for the system to deal with . When this happens you will get partial and smoke pollution coming out of the chimney. It is not actually the wood burning but the gasses that the very hot wood produces, these gasses will catch fire inside the insulated fire box but if too much fuel at any time is produced then you get over fueling and in turn smoke. The upper chamber runs on wood gas, if there is too much being produced in the fire box, the upper glass will turn black and smoke will appear out of the chimney. It is a fine balance of temperature, air supply and resistance inside the system.
great looking
I love the effect of the vortex in the back and a curtain of fire in the front!
@@flattail yeah looks great and even better in the dark but … the curtain is a result of too much fuel burning at one time and ideally should not be showing!
Now add preheated air into the upper vortex chamber, use a length of double walled flue as an air preheater, the more you can use the wasted flue heat the higher efficiency it will be, you obviously have the counter that the draw the fire can supply will be lower, but you can use this to reduce the speed of the burn instead of throttling. Love the design btw, easy to modify and easy to see the results.
@@ChrisDay-sx4lv i have been down that route over and over, it does not seem to work, there is now enough preheated air to feed the fire and supply the afterburner from one source. Yes you can see the effects of changes unlike most stoves that might not be burning clean but you just cant tell! However the vortex is a fickle thing!!
is this something you built? if yes, do you plan to share the build?
Hi, thanks for watching, Yes I have built quite a few designs, please look at my other videos for dimensions and other information.
These videos have been helping my capstone group a bunch. Thanks!
might I suggest a glass baffle running across the front top of the vortex chamber. Say the top inch , this would have the effect of trapping heat in the top of the chamber and might raise the temperature high enough to deal with any over gassing . Is there any potential to feed more air into the double vortex either along the exit from the slot or via a pipe in the centre of each vortex, much like the system you had in your other stove for a while ? It occurs to me that one of the magic stove top fans could be pressed into service slung upside down or on it's side to pressurize a plenum chamber which could feed a fairly low pressured air into the various areas required.
@@davidprocter3578 A turbo vortex stove, I like it!
Really enjoying your videos. One of the biggest surprises i have found in my experiments is a damper, it has been much more effective than reducing primary or seconday air. In your current setup and with where you are thinking of going, maybe you could make dampners for your exit holes but i think one in the chimney would work well and probably be easier. Good luck!
@@justin7030 Thanks, I had a damper on the chimney last year but it is in use else where at the moment!
I have never experimented with wood stove at such high level as you, but i have an idea i would like to share. Many wood stove i have encountered have two separate air controls, one for primary and one for secondary. Maybe implementing this feature can control overfuelling, when adding wood one would reduce primary air and open just secondary air. What do you think?
Well I have lots of videos testing this stove, I have tried many configurations including as you suggest but thanks for getting involved and please keep watching.
@@foxfish7115 I will keep watching for shure, you make very interesting test! I would like in the future to do some tests myself. Right now i don't have the space.
You are providing a torture test for that glass!
Surprising how well it last ! There is a piece in use inside my vortex J tube that is doing fine after many long burns…..
The bottom of the firebox is likely LESS of a torture test than the hottest part of the stove where the vortex happens.
@@orcoastgreenman yes, the cool air traveling through the gap will help but the top piece will go opaque soon….
@@orcoastgreenman Glass wont mind the temperature, its the temp difference across it that causes internal stress.
how easy is it to cut ceramic glass?
@@TheKlink easy with a good quality glass cutter, not so easy to cut holes! I have a video from a couple of years back where I show how to cut it, I will see if I can find it…..
Here you go, at around two minutes … ruclips.net/video/-RMG31ZTv1I/видео.htmlsi=sJw9hN2Gh44BWwGf
@@foxfish7115 ah mate, thank you kindly.
So… you had your secondary air coming in through a slot between the two boxes on the last model and now you’re bringing it directly into the first box via holes in the sides right ? Was there a reason for this? Do you notice a difference in performance? Great job 👍
Not sure as yet which works best but in any case I feel there is a better solution somewhere! The stove works quite well but still remains a bit temperamental when reloading fresh fuel.
Nice
Is your furnace's three air inlets blocked and not in use?
I am not sure what you mean, this video was an experament to test a bottom air inlet. I have found the top air inlet to be the better option.
@@foxfish7115 There is a third air inlet in the whirlpool inside your stove. I saw that you blocked the bottom air inlet.
@@刘博-v7i I did try that for a few fires but found the top air combined with the main air works best but I am always looking for new ideas….
we need step by step instructions on how to make one
@@pattiannepascual if you go back through my channel, there are several build videos.
Great setup. Thank you for that! I am trying to build the same with fire bricks. I can see the dimensions in your first video to be set at 200x300 (widthxheigth) but I can not see the depth. Is it the width of your vermiculite sheet 610 ...?
Is that a factory approved door prop? JK Great video.
@@f.demascio1857 patten design, please dont copy without permission!
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Well, that's neat! I'm trying to figure out the process the fire goes through. Small fire, then the flames are going up through a narrowish aperture where more air is mixed in? With an induced vortex to mix it and ensure a super clean burn. All with a relatively small draft Very impressive! I'm not certain why youtube thought I'd like to see this, but they were correct!
Turn it upside down so it becomes a gasifier, limit the air to the fuel chamber and introduce hot air into the burn chamber.
really enjoying the experiments
genius
I'm interested to see how that ceramic glass holds up to such demanding use. Always great to see the results of your tinkering!
its a shame there's not an easy way of sucking the smoke back through the burn chamber, smoke is fuel after all. Do you think painting waterglass on the cracks in the bricks might extend their lifespan?
Hi, do you mean the smoke from the new barrel? Water glass is not really needed, fire bricks will last 10 years or so, vermiculite seems to last 2 years but is very easy to replace.
@@foxfish7115 yes i was referring to the smoke from the new barrel. i understand it's a one off thing, though for this situation, I just came off a wood gas/gasifier video and the smoke pouring off of that seemed horrendous. i'm glad that the firebrick cracking isn't too much of an issue.
Very interesting! Have you increased the total air supply also? From the few experiments I’ve run where a vortex is formed, I’ve found it seems to like quite a lot of air and with more air the burn happens further back in the vortex chamber/more in the firebox
@@findingoutthehardway if you look back at last years vortex videos, you can see they can run with out any door at all but… dont like being re loaded like that!
Also wonder whether having the port run front to back could help reduce smoke on the glass at the start? I’m doing this with my current build and have found it’s very quick to burn clean, possibly because fuel is drawn into the flames rather than the flames being drawn across unburned fuel, so more combustion happens in the firebox and flames go straight into the vortex chamber right from the beginning.
@@findingoutthehardway thousands of potential configurations and setting! They are fickle stoves ……
Cool to see! I've made some adjustments to my air supply on my vortex heater. Basicly I've made a secondary air hole at the top of the door and primary air at the bottom. So far good results too. Will update my forum on donkey at some point first a couple more fires. Happy to see we both kinda have a same but different approach with good results so far hehe
Super! This way you can upgrade any firebox.
I found that the outer wall of the 200-liter oil drum has a zinc coating, which will release harmful gases when exposed to high temperatures!
Let's see if I got this right... - no air inlet in the front door, all air enters the side chambers through those holes in the front panel - primary behind the side glasses. How does it get there from the side chambers? Just some holes in the lower part of the wall? - secondary air still through the double roof of the firebox? Entering from the sides?
@@ing.pagano no nothing like that, I have some build footage but no time to put it all together. Primary air is from a full length slot under the door 10 x 190mm secondary air comes in the sides through holes behind the glass. But it seems a correct size top box and exit is also important, I need to lite a few more fires under different conditions to prove it works though…
@@foxfish7115 single roof between firebox and vortex chamber?
I enjoy your experiments and the party room looks great. Thank you.
I really like the longer format. Excellent update, thanks,
Awesome update! I'm surprised that the ceramic glass held up on the bottom of the firebox, but maybe with the cool air being pulled across it that helps it to keep cooler while at the same time preheating the incoming air? I'm also curious if one could implement something similar to a batch box, that way maybe you could eliminate the need for the P-channel... Anyways, as always, thanks for experimenting with your stoves and keeping us in the loop!
@@jacobklingel1026 yes surprising! The other piece is at the top of the fire tunnel as has been in use for around 8 hours of burning so far and also looks fine.
When I went back in there this morning, there was a large amount of charcoal in the fire box, normally there would be none or very little. It must be because cool air was still flowing in as the fire was dying down and cooled down the area, if I pursue this method I would have to remember to close off the air.
@@foxfish7115 Thanks for the update! I wondered how much it would cool it off the glass, and it sounds like it cooled it off quite a bit! You could always collect the charcoal and make some biochar with it...
Love the offset port in the J tube !
Is that considered a 4inch or 5inch system?
@@evapasche That is a six inch, system size is based on the chimney size. However you can build a 6” size and use a slightly larger chimney but not a smaller chimney .
Nice!
great job
Very good
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Your beautiful wifes hat is pretty cool. Great video. Lovely view. Cheers mate.
Get your missus a torch or headlamp. 😂 good video. Cheers
Very nice. Hoping to use vermiculite board in an upcoming prototype.
Is that glass neoceram, pyroceram, or quartz glass please?
@@al9929 I cant say for sure, it could be any of the popular ceramic glasses available, I get free off cuts from my local stove supplier. So some of it comes from cracked stove doors and some is offcuts from lager sheets. I will ask next time I visit the store….