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I agree they are under marketed. This is basically a DBX 160XT in pedal format, very useful!

Def less noisy than tape that is for sure! It's not that noisy from what I recall.

@@WheelieMix Thanks ... Do you think it's good quality to insert this unit into a mastering chain for example before final mastering compressor for that added "tape mojo" on a whole mix? I like the sound of it very much and as I look it up, the specs of the unit are pro level, the one thing that I don't know if I saw right was when you engage "tape" the level drops for about 3 db, but that is not a problem, it's just interesting; if I'm right ...

@@b.hornetiii.6771 Mastering I am not sure as I would usually favours very clean processors for Mastering. But for Mixbus deffo! It adds a nice compression, saturation and interesting EQ profile. The leve drop will be dependent on how much it is getting driven and it is reducing the peaks. So it may vary depending on the material that it is used on.

Hello, I think you misunderstood me : - The examples I use aren’t « bad sounding drums ». They are from overhead stereo pair. - The LMC compressor has been used for decades to transform drums sounds. So yes I was expecting it to do it like the original. - My review doesn’t only focuses on drums, but also vocals and mixbus. Where I feel it works better (on vocals especially). On Mixbus, the transformer sound disappointed me a bit, the fact that the input cannot drive was a let down too, the Vintage Drive was a tad noisy sometimes for mixbus and not my cup of tea, the width was working but not better than some plugins I already have, the Violet EQ was very nice, the M/S insert matrix was great. But I’ve said all of this in my video already :). It’s def not only about drums :).

Imho they could be used like that yes. I think they might have done a few changes, since the power supply is different afaik.

Ha thanks! Yeah Violet EQ is cool, the 500 version is exactly the same and quite affordable. I also like the insert point and especially the M/S matrix it offers. But it was too expensive for me to keep it just for that. Was great on vocals too, I'd have kept it just for vocals if it had a utilitarian compressor instead of the quite bad "talkback" compressor (that sounds nothing like the original imho).

Good point indeed! Some tape machine/tape formula/bias IRL can do that kind of thing actually.

I am just being honest about what I like and dislike. Doing a video just saying "I don't like it" would not make a lot of sense to me.

Yeah the Neve is kinda expensive and the SSL seem to be the only one in that price point. Personally, I'd grab a Violet EQ if you like the EQ from it. It can be found for quite cheap on the 2nd hand market. Then probably a pair vintage transformers (which can be found for cheap too) and just roll with that. It's not giving you everything but it's giving you the EQ and saturation. The HF compressor could be imitated in the box quite easily, and the Drive doesn't sound great when pushed so it's better to keep it subtle anyway. Although don't get me wrong : This video only shows MY TASTE, not an ultimate truth. I can see why some people may like it. Especially for those who likes more modern sound.

@@WheelieMix cheers for the advice 👍🏼 i guess master bus processing is meant to be pretty subtle, but would be nice to really drive it now & again. I have an analogue mixer & pair of reasonable eq, thinking of adding warm audio's 2mpx, which has the transformers , full voltage tubes . Used subtly on the master bus could work good enough for me! Then maybe add the spl gemini for stereo width depth m/s fun. Thing is add those 2 up & im at the Neve price point 🤦🏼😂 Enjoyed you vid anyway refreshingly honest 👍🏼

@@eyesintheskies Yes true. Although some style call for aggressiveness on the mixbus sometimes. Ha yes, I personally do not buy Warm products. Because of their low resale value and also I wasn't convinced by all the tests I listened to (except their 1073 seemed to sound quite good). Gemini sounds fun! Yeah, do not forget about 2 transformers. They can do wonder on the mixbus, they are passive and very cheap (much cheaper than any outboard gear). Actually as we speak, I am exporting a mix with a pair of 60's transformers on the mixbus and I am really liking the result! Haaa thanks for the kind word. There are too many reviews that are brown-nosing brands hoping to get free stuff or because they are under a contract. I am trying to offer something different and honest, eventhough not perfect and polished (I am clearly not a RUclipsr and got no time to be one hehe).

@@WheelieMix i agree, i quite like saturating a whole mix sometimes. In fact im probably prone to overdoing it 😂 As for warm audio thing id probably take advantage & buy used. The 2mpx has cinemag transformers, inside & is based on an old ampex 351 50s/60s unit. But i imagine the real vintage transformers are pretty good. First realised what they can do when i got a hudson broadcast guitar pedal, love that thing! What id really love is that overstayer modular channel, but a bit outside my budget 🤦🏼 Have you heard of it, interesting unit, especially once you get into modulating it via CV. Trying to justify the price tag as looking at it as 3 or 4 units in one & convince myself id be saving money!!!

@@eyesintheskies Haha yes gotcha. The Overstayer is great but man it's expensive! It's a never ending quest innit hehe.

It's very good indeed. It's especially great at balancing guitars that are a bit bright like Telecaster/Stratocaster imho!

Yes I am quite surprised at how close it was. Especially regarding the calibration!

It could definitely be used well, but when spending that much money on it, I probably expected a bit more tbh.

Thanks! I remember preferring very slightly to the Amek. But to be honest, they are as close as one could get.

Thanks! Didn't they emulated a 9k desk for this one instead?

@@WheelieMix yes I think so, but it has E style EQ option. But good point on the dynamics, I don't know how they differ between E and 9k... It's a great sounding plugin so I'd be very interested

@@ParlanceOpus Yeah the E/G option is also available on the AWS 900 (Super Analogue SSL sound) so that makes sense. No idea how the dynamics differ actually, good question!

Ha thanks Gus! I hopefully while get time to post more!

Ho wow thanks a lot! I am so glad to hear this!!!!

To be honest, it's hard to beat in this price range. But I'd rather get a nice stereo EQ or a nice stereo buss comp rather than an all feature packed unit that does not wow me on most. But that's just me :). Also the resale value keeps plummeting. Which is not great.

It's a rough mix here, and I don't know what you mean by "noised" sorry.

It is pretty good indeed! I hope price won't get stupidly inflated!

If you like that's great! I found a few cool sounds out of it tbh ☺.

Yes I think it is indeed.

Most gear is actually

@@FaithavenNot in the high end audio equipment

@@rectape well I have $5000+ pieces of gear so maybe anything over that. If you can point to sources that would be great. I will research including its assembly and where the components are from.

I think Audioscape are made in the US. Culture Vulture I think are made in the UK. Buzz Audio some were made in NZ. But my knowledge regarding new outboard gear is pretty limited in that regard I must confess.

Hey, ha good to see you again! I am happy to see you here too :D!

Hahaha happy to still see you here hehe! Glad YT notified you :D. Yes the Fusion is not baaaad, but it's still a good chunk of money so it better blows me away or I won't keep it. Yes Kiive didn't but they emulated the Rupert Neve unit, which seems like a much more interesting unit to me (not the same price too hehe).

@@WheelieMix The Neve emulation on the Kiive plugin sounds nice, i much prefer it to the Fusion. Still the thing for me is whether i would use it on a bus because if a plugin isn't doing what hardware does with dimension then i still have to rely on hardware for the mixbus. I really like it though.

@@bontempo1271 Yes also the Neve he emulated is 3x the price of the Fusion. But I'd prefer it too. To be 100% honest, I don't think hardware brings any "dimension". A stereo track will still be stereo. The sense of depth and width is usually very easily explainable on a scientific standpoint and has very little to do with actual "dimension" and "depth". All of the sense of dimension, depth, width are trickery we do to ours ears. So I don't think that "dimension" could also be brought by plugins, it's just a different route to take, that could maybe take more time to tweak.

@@WheelieMix Yes it's just our perception, but it's definitely there. I hope one day this mystery is solved

@@bontempo1271 Indeed it's just our perception :). Just by saying that I think you solved the mystery actually.

I pushed the width a bit (not too much) and pushed the harmonics on side (on side mode). I think it was on the medium intensity. That's usually what I do and it works pretty well with me :). The trick is not to push the width too much.

Pretty much hehehe x). Ah it was alright on the vocal imho. No don't you think?

transformer sounded good sometimes! but i would think that I could get that topend air trough many other ways@@WheelieMix

@@MariJu1ce To be honest that's a very good point indeed, I agree with you here.

Haaaa thanks man haha :D. I am glad to be back! Which RND gear do you have instead of the Fusion?

How would you characterize a "good drive". I know tough question, but depending on your answer, there could potentially be some plugins I could recommend.

@@WheelieMixwhich plugins?

@@hinky7729 It depends on what he means by "good" drive box. Some people love very bright "punchy" saturation. Others prefer more mellow/soft saturation etc...

@@WheelieMix just give us some tips for both (if you have the time). My generation didnt grew up on analogue - so it is very interesting for us, when someone with experience share their impressions

@@hinky7729 Hey I didn't grew up on analog too, I grew up with an ASUS laptop, ain't no boomer or X xD. Jokes aside, tell me what you like because there are literally 10 000 options. So there is no point in me recommending you something you won't like or use ;).

Hahaha that's very hyperbolic but I appreciate that a lot! Thanks a lot man <3.

@@WheelieMixthanks for being awesome

@@JoeyFTL Thanks for the kind words <3!!!

Hmmmm maybe if there is a way to bypass the "console" emu and only use the EQ.

My pleasure Dirk! Thanks for the kind comment!

I saw that, I don't have this hardware anymore unfortunately. But I am sure some people on RUclips will do it :).

Yes and the calibration on the plugin was surprisingly very very close too!

Yes it is very unique and impressive in that sense!

Ho wow thanks a lot for the kind words!

Heyyy, hmmmm not sure, but tbh the Eventide plugin seems quite old. I think you'd be better off taking it to imitate the curve with a better EQ after.

Oh there is no hardware, it's all a lie, all a simulation. Morpheus wasn't lying! But what's that? : ruclips.net/video/rOCsfkP2UO0/видео.html P.S. : The thumbnail is also a lie, the hardware doesn't exist.

Hey! Every room’s unique. Maybe yours wasn’t made for these. I obviously can’t tell from where I am. The only thing I know is that this room sounds very good here and so far we had a lot of great names coming and loving the sound. So I guess for us here it was a good match :D. And they look nice too imho.

@@WheelieMix Yo sure i am sure Ur room sounds good just i am wondering wtf :)

Haha yeah it’s a pretty common thing in studio. But I guess it works better on bigger rooms maybe.

Hello. No way my accent was THAT bad in this video🤣? Actually you can see which one is the hardware in the tracks name. The hardware is named "GML" and you can look at which one is soloed to see which one is playing. But tbh, it's better to not know as it will be like a blindtest ;).

@@WheelieMix yes but where is the hardware? DO YOU HAVE IT?

@@RAWREALDEAL Ho no, I am completely a liar and decided to waste my precious time doing fake comparison because.... because it's fun? Not even actually. Follow me on Instagram to find out ;). P.S. : The thumbnail should give you a hint ;).

@@WheelieMix iam just askin. GOSH UNSUB SORRY learn how to commnicate, it was just a question

@@RAWREALDEAL You asked this same question twice (in another video too). And the second time it was a bit more "intense". So I thought you were pulling my leg a bit ;). By the way it's just humor and sarcasm, it wasn't intended to be disrespectful <3. I thought you liked it raw ;). My humor is quite dry and raw we could say hehe.

Hey. Tbh the video was released before SSL Ch2. So I cannot say. But having access to an SSL 4000G atm, I don't really care about plugins. Although the UAD one felt very very close. So I might be curious to try the SSL Ch2. BUT! The SSL Ch2 is emulating a 9k, not a 4k, so not really comparable so to speak. And one of my favorite thing about SSL desk is to overload them. Which I don't think the SSL Ch2 is focused on. As they emulated a much cleaner desk.

@@WheelieMix There’s the E button that supposedly models the 4000E desk. Saturation was supposed to be included but in the newest model.ñ plugin, the 4KB. It’d be awesome for those of us who haven’t experienced the desk itself to get your opinion on it 🤗🙏🏽

Hey! Ah glad you found the video useful. The differences are subtle right? But there imho!

Hey, this is not an emulation of a CL1B actually. It's a Tube-Tech emu, but not the CL1B model :).

@@WheelieMix hey thanks but I’m not talking about the stupid plug-in. I meant tracking with the SMC instead of the cl1b. Ive never tracked through the smc and curious if it’s good for that or too much to worry about. - but I could get one for half the current price of a cl1b.

@@spunkadellic I tried tracking through the SMC and tbh I found it a bit overkill. But CL1B and SMC are nothing alike. The only thing they share is the brand name in my humble opinion.

@@WheelieMix that’s exactly what I thought thanks.

If I am not using the hardware, what am I doing then? Yep curves is only side of the story. Phase/magnitude/THD (and with digital we can also add cramping) is the hidden side of the iceberg. But when matching curves is where we can hear if there are actually differences in that regard imho.

@@WheelieMixThanks. Curves are not everything. You can make curves with stock EQ. Also two different technologies.

@@WheelieMix The science, fatcs are objective but of course we all hear things differently, subjective.

Yep that’s what I said indeed I agree 🙌🏼.

My pleasure!

That's a valid point of view indeed!

Haha thanks for sharing your opinion. A subject generating a lot of debate for sure :).

Ha my pleasure!!!

Ouiiii haha ^^. Content que tu es trouvé ton pref dans cette comparaison!

Ha thanks a lot for sharing your positive vibe ❤️❤️.

Ho wow thanks for the amazing words. Yes I don’t have a lot of subs and views because I can’t afford taking the time to promote and stuff. RUclips is an extremely time consuming platform. I agree with you here the plugin is so close that it surprised me! Now I got a « room full of hardware » and tbh, recalls aren’t a big issue for me. As I mainly print/commit to the sound. If by any mean the artist dislike what I did I can just go back and do something else with plugins if required ✌️. Thanks for chiming ❤️.

@@WheelieMix I hear ya!

Hey, glad you found this review/demo useful. Although I'd not say the plugin is a profanity but rather a democratization. Which in my book is 90% of the time a good thing :).