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She was saying goodbye during this entire scene

I didn’t know until today that she was Marty in “Grease”.

Judd Hirsch superb actor

Dinah gave one of the most haunting performances of all time.

Dinah Manoff was amazing in this. The look...flawless. The acting...phenomenal. The scene...outstanding. How she didn't get nominated for a oscar is beyond me. Probably one of the best scenes in the entire movie. Power, emotion, heartbreak within 5mins 27 secs.

In hindsight, this scene makes me cry

The acting by both of them here. We read the book and watched the movie in high school. I still remember that for whatever reason, when we watched this part of the movie in class, we had a substitute that day, a retired youth probation/parole officer. As Karen was leaving the restaurant, he paused the video (yes, VHS in those days) and asked the class "does this girl kill herself later?" and we were all like 'how did you know that?" He just said, "you can just tell." Watching this scene so many years later, with the type of things life throws at someone by the time they've reached a certain age, I can see it, too. I can't say I could describe it exactly, but you can see that she's struggling. Great acting by Timothy Hutton, too. He just looks exhausted for most of this movie.

There are so many subtle little things that make this movie so good. For example, when he hears that she was also seeing a doctor, he takes off his jacket. 02:37 He wasn't feeling at ease with her until he realized she was still struggling, too. Then his comfort quickly disappears when she says she's no longer seeing a doctor. Redford thought out every scene so carefully.

How of a different scene or different Movie would have it been- if he ended up getting together with his best Male friend from the Hospital.?

A boy i knew committed suicide earlier this year. He was such happy bright kid. I still do t understand. Its frightening.

This scene was filmed at the Original Walker Brothers Pancake House in Highland Park, IL. It is still there.

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sorry Karen , hospitals are a part of real life.

I wasn't close to my mother and lived a very blue collar life, I can relate to Conrad big time when I saw this movie and how interacted with people.

😮 both of them was not ready for the world and to jump in feet first back into the things that they were dealing with and the stresses they had🎉 before they endedp up where they did at the mental hospital! Conrad didn't want to deal with coming home and deal with the facade he would have to put up with being around his mother and seeing his best friend that was also his brother best friend. His trying to do the swim meet that they all was in but he just couldn't cut it because it was just too soon. That's why he missed the cocoon of the mental hospital they were safe inside from all the stresses of the world! Karen on the other hand she was trying to fit in by jumping in feet first and taking on all of those school projects like being the Secretary of her school in trying to put together events just was too much to do too soon. She was trying to do like her dad say the only one that can help you is yourself since therapy didn't seem to be working for her as she said. So she decided that she was going to have herself a good year and she told Conrad the same thing let's make this a good year and make this the best year of our life.

The smile that she gives him at 4:32 goes hand in hand with the reference to "A Thousand Clowns", a metaphor for the happy face she puts on in public.

Conrad assumes she's stronger than him because she presents well & isn't seeing a therapist. He also assumes Buck was stronger because he was older & an athlete. He's wrong on both counts.

Even though Conrad sounds sadder, there's something authentic in his words. When he reminds something beautiful about his past (the hospital), he is talking from his heart. Karen words are happy, even his expression, face and all, but there is a sense of faking her feelings or not even really knowing what she is saying and even what she is doing (some kind dissociation maybe, which matches good with her amnesia and noticiable anxiety). In my book, no other movie reflects so good teenage severe depression like this 1980 movie.

Dinah was perfect

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"Let's have a great year." Kind of like the oft-heard psychobabble, "Make it a great day." Not always that simple, as shown later in the movie.

02:49 Every depressed person would hate to hear this from a friend. Feels like being deceived.

Post-pandemic catchup with a friend gone wrong. We've been here, guys. Never give up when there's always an opportunity to have new experiences.

this scene always breaks my heart.....timothy hutton is so outstanding in this film......the fingers at 03:53

This movie is incredible Such amazing actors they nailed this scene

Wonderful film that stays with you. Brilliantly acted and directed.

"The only one who can help me is myself. At least that's what my dad told me". That line is so agonizing when we know what happens later. Conrad is trying to connect their mutual bond, but she's running from it. She's running and there's no one to save her. It's heart-breaking. Notice how for most of the scene they are window dressing "it's great, I'm great, you look great, let's have a great Christmas!". He's running too but fortunately he has Dr. Berger who ultimately is there to help him face his issues.

Poor Conrad tragedies he's faced

This movie always bothered me. It reminded me of my own family. My mom was just like the mother. But a very good movie

3:00 - "... at least that's what my dad says ..." It's easy to miss that little remark upon first viewing, but it's actually the most significant line in the entire scene. She's not actually speaking from her own heart, she's just repeating what her father wants her to believe.

Dinah Manoff should have won the Best Supporting Actress Oscar for this powerhouse performance in this one scene.

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this is DEFINITELY the most touching scenes in the movie- especially when you watched it for the first time, not knowing how the movie progresses and what eventually happens . The searching, cute, little ill at ease mannerisms, and sooooooooo wishing they get back to together again as the need each other in that special way.......the great feeling that karen will be a great influence on conrad and looking forward to her helping him................then.............oh wow.............

I like how they smile at eachother when seated across from on another. For a second I could see hope in their eyes

This scene hits me so hard now. I lost my brother to suicide about a year and a half ago. At the time, I was struggling with my own issues and I couldn't see that he was severely depressed. It's sort of hard to see how others are hurting, when your struggling yourself. Wish I could have done something, but it's too late now and I'm tired of beating myself up about it. I've been doing it for so long now and it's wearing me down. I can see how Conrad is being open and honest about his feelings, but she seems a bit off to me. I can just feel it by watching this scene. Thinking back, I remember my brother being a bit off, but I never saw it due to my depression. My brother Peter thought he was already too far gone to get a therapist, but he loved how I was getting help for myself. This is something that I'll always remember when I think back on everything. I wish I could have known that Peter was struggling inside, but I didn't see it clearly. Karen keeps repeating that she has to go to the Drama Club meeting, but I can see how she's the one who's struggling inside and putting up a front that everything is okay.... but she's suffering inside. :(

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It was a short Visit. She did look like she was doing better than he was, but that was a False Veneer.

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Brilliant scene. You assume she's fine & he's the one about to go over the cliff.

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Cool! The music is great and goes well with the video.

Awesome! Love how you combined the two! Great fit!👍🏾

Wow! Great job with this. Great music. Keep it up!

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She looks so much like her mother, Lee Grant, here.

movie bout white people problems. means--no problems. you know, fake problems.

outinsider > His character cannot pick up on it because he is on the fence with his own emotions and feelings, contemplation of suicide in his own mind that he cannot pick up anything subtle that Karen is expressing for herself. The veneer that is the device that individuals fighting depression have can throw anyone off, really. When I first watched this movie, I was concerned that she was not seeing a doctor. Listening to what her father has to say. With having watched the film, we know that Karen commits suicide, which actually surprised me at first.

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