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Ordering Abradable Powder Coatings™
APC™ isn't just for pistons. Oil pumps (spur gear, gerotor and multistage), screw compressors, roots blowers, turbo compressor housings and bearings are just some of the many components that can benefit from Abradable Powder Coatings. APC can also be used for prototyping and R&D, even on devices that aren't engine or automotive related.
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Ordering Abradable Powder Coatings™ On Pistons
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How to order APC™ on piston skirts, covering multiple engine platforms - 2 stroke, 4 stroke, diesel, etc. Learn the engine and piston information that you'll need and the steps to follow when ordering.
Assembly and Break in; Abradable Powder Coatings™ on Pistons
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After having piston skirts coated with APC™, there is a break-in process that needs to be completed. Every engine is different, so presented here are factors to consider and steps to follow when using our coatings in some of the more common engine platforms.
Introduction To Abradable Powder Coatings™
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Line2Line's patented abradable coatings for clearance control, anti-galling, and low friction improve the efficiency of blowers, compressors, engines, pumps, etc., by safely reducing operating clearances. We offer a full spectrum of coatings in terms of thickness, strength, and friction properties which perform in a wide range of applications. From concept, to prototype, to production, Line2Lin...
Abradable Powder Coatings™ On Piston Skirts (No music soundtrack)
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This video explains how APC™ on piston skirts improves performance and extends the life of your piston cylinder kit. This version has no music during the presentation.
Abradable Powder Coatings™ On Piston Skirts
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You spoke, we listened; there is now a music-free version on our channel - "Abradable Powder Coatings™ On Piston Skirts (No music soundtrack)". This video explains how APC™ on piston skirts improves performance and extends the life of your piston cylinder kit.
Line2Line Coatings - Piston Case Study
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Andy from Line2Line Coatings with an inspection of a piston that ran in an 1800hp 632 CI Nitrous Mountain Motor built by Chris Holbrook. The pistons were coated by Line2Line in 2016 and sent back to them in late 2023 for recoating.
Why is the top end, ring area, of the pistons not coated?
We can coat the ring land area of the piston, most recently done at the request of an NHRA Pro Stock team. Another application is in "stroker motor" engine platforms. The coating does add more stability to the piston above what the skirt coating alone provides. Coating the top end adds cost as the lands are coated separately from the skirts and require special masking to keep the coating out of the ring grooves. Please contact us directly if you are interested in having this service performed.
So this abrades and then goes into the oil to go to the rest of the engine?
The coating’s “fuzzy” texture is made up of thousands of tiny peaks. As the coating burnishes itself to the ideal fit during the break-in, the peaks that abrade come off in tiny particles. Most of the particles will hang suspended in the oil until the first oil change; larger particles may get trapped by the oil filter. The coating is a proprietary blend of polymers and lubricious filler materials, so the particles also function as a lubricant.
How much does it coast
Prices are listed on their website
Greatness
Thanks!
How does the cylinder bore coating or lack of coating affect the product selection? Say a nikasil coated aluminum bore vs a ductile iron uncoated sleeve.
Cylinder bore material has no bearing on the coating selection. Almost all engines with the exception of Top Fuel receive our "Slick+ CC" piston skirt coating. Other factors outlined in the video come into play when it comes to determining the Target Coating Thickness (TCT).
I guess you can call me a silent salesman. I have been telling alot of people. Someday I might have to take some pistons to you. Thanks for the videos
Thanks for your support!
Awesome. Just shared the video with my buddy that builds race engines an whatever you can think of for 40 years. Stephens and Hull Automotive Cecil Ohio
We appreciate you spreading the word on our Abradable Powder Coatings!
Thank you for the clear description.
Glad it was helpful!
What is the coating made of, do you have different compounds for different applications and heat ranges? Does the skirt length affect the effectiveness of the coating? What is the recommended variation for the coating thickness? Does the coating debris affect softer metals? Does this have thermal benefits or drawbacks not related to cylinder friction? why is figure 4A off center? Why did you cut at the end of a pertinent question? Are there metals this coating does not adhere to? Can these coating be applied with positive results to other pieces such as hydraulic lifters? Are these too many questions for a 20 min video?
They just made a video a couple of days ago that Answers some of your Question. ✌️
Kyle, there are other videos in our series which may answer your questions in more detail, so we’ll briefly touch on each one here. What is the coating made of? It's a proprietary blend of polymers and lubricious filler materials. The coatings contain no PTFE. Do you have different compounds for different applications and heat ranges? Our coatings cover a broad spectrum of thickness, strength, friction properties and heat ranges, and are designed to perform in a wide range of applications. Does the skirt length affect the effectiveness of the coating? No What is the recommended variation for the coating thickness? This depends upon your specific application. On piston skirts, we like to say that our "sweet spot" is .001" - .004" radial (.002" - .008" diametric), but we can and have applied .015" or more on the diameter of a piston and achieved the desired results. Does the coating debris affect softer metals? No Does this have thermal benefits or drawbacks not related to cylinder friction? Piston rings conduct heat energy from the piston crown to the cylinder wall. While there are thermal benefits due to reduced friction and improved lubrication, APC stabilizes the piston in the bore so that the rings stay in constant contact with the cylinder wall. The improved ring seal allows heat to be transferred more efficiently. Why is figure 4A off center? We’d like to say that we were checking to see if people were paying attention, but the truth is that it just slipped through that way. Why did you cut at the end of a pertinent question? Which question? Are there metals this coating does not adhere to? None that we have worked with yet. The coatings also successfully adhere to PEEK polymer Can these coating be applied with positive results to other pieces such as hydraulic lifters? Pistons, pumps, compressors, turbo/superchargers and bearings all have shown measurable benefits using APC. We've coated lifter bores and solid lifters, but cannot coat hydraulic or roller lifters unless they are fully disassembled so that we’re only working with the lifter body. Are these too many questions for a 20 min video? No, we appreciate your interest in our coatings. Please view our other videos for additional information.
How much does it coat
@@Line2LineCoatings You guys are !!!!AWESOME!!!! I discovered your product from Lake Speed Jr. I'll be contacting ya' soon. Best regards, Ben
@@Line2LineCoatings thank you!
That music is way too LOUD.
We now have a music-free version on our channel: "Abradable Powder Coatings On Piston Skirts (No music soundtrack)"
I'll believe it when F1 or Nascar starts using it.
Half a billion cycles? Rookie numbers :)
So your Chevy can run like a Ford.
No we will keep our engine whole thanks. You can keep playing with those 2 opposing inline 4 cylinders.
If my Chevy starts running like a Ford, it's going to the junk yard!!
I've pondered skit coatings in the past, this is the first article on the subject I have seen on YT. I'll have to look into this and do a follow-up at some point.
Thanks for watching! You can contact us directly at info@line2linecoatings.com if you have questions.
@@Line2LineCoatings I looked at your web site, it looks interesting. I will keep the information handy for the future.
I love the idea. What is the softening point (temp F) of this particular powder coating?
What about a cylinder that is larger on top and more narrow on the bottom?
You're fucked!
Cerakote is way better 👍
I bet you vote too, and expect things to change, don't you? ROFLMFAO!!!
Whats that grey haired dude from? Was he on speed vision back in the day?
Anyone doing these coatings in Australia.
We are actively working with a licensee in Australia and hope to have them up and running soon. We will announce the opening on our website and Facebook page when it happens, so keep checking them for updates.
@@Line2LineCoatings cheers..
Cerakote is way better 👍
@@johnmorgan5414 oh ya? Where's your data on that?
@@johnmorgan5414 I bet you vote too, and expect things to change, don't you? ROFLMFAO!!!
Do we really need the annoying music for the entire length of the video?
That wasn't music.
agree🙉
Yes!! Yes, we do!! It adds horsepower, kind of like race stickers all over your car!!
We now have a music-free version on our channel: "Abradable Powder Coatings™ On Piston Skirts (No music soundtrack)"
@@Line2LineCoatingsthankyou 😊
If Steve Morris is down with these theories there has to be something to it
So i need to have hone/ bore done. Get those numbers before sending you my pistons, or on a new build with oversized piston, can i have pistons Coated before going to Machine shop to save time.
We recommend completing all of the block work first and then getting the pistons coated. Sometimes things occur during the boring/honing process and the dimensions come out differently from what was planned. We cannot coat over cured coating, so if the pistons need to be resized to fit then they would need to be stripped and recoated at the cost of doing a second job.
Really hope there will be a applicator in Europe soon 🙏
I think Camcoat in the UK does this coating or a similar product
We are currently bringing on our first international licensee in Australia, and have been in discussions with others for the European market.
@@danielmintern4070 According to their website, Camcoat applies Tech Line coating products. While they are good for their intended use, they cannot achieve the dimensional build-up (.015" or more) that our patented, proprietary Abradable Powder Coatings are able to offer.
@@Line2LineCoatings ah ok, would love to see your product on offer here in the UK. It would have come in really handy in the past to build up pistons skirts after a re hone
@@danielmintern4070, a European applicator is definitely on our list of priorities. We do have several customers in the UK who routinely send us parts, but the shipping cost is understandably a barrier to a wider market. Thanks again for your interest in our coatings!
Would a lower HP Street use engine benefit say 700hp na no boost? Has there been any testing on how many hours the coatings last?
Yes, all engines can benefit from our coatings. We've coated pistons for use in engines ranging from chainsaws to Top Fuel Funny Cars, and that includes a lot of higher power street builds. Customers freshening up their engines after one season or many are amazed at how good the coating still looks. You can find many examples on our Facebook page.
I ran a 1400 horsepower turbocharged 414 cubic inch small block Chevy and I do a lot of drag and drives with this engine in 1.5 years I have put about 100 passes on the engine and 8,200 Street miles before removing the cylinder heads to freshen up valve springs and gaskets I noticed there are some white scratches in the cylinders that may need two or three tho to clean up would your coding be a good choice to do on something that gets Street miles along with drag racing at the power level that I'm at?
Absolutely. Our coatings have been used in engines participating in Drag Week, and many higher power street/strip builds that are used as a daily driver and then taken to the track on the weekend.
Anybody ever run this coating on lifters?
We have coated solid lifters and tappets to take up excess clearance. We cannot coat hydraulic or roller lifters unless they are completely disassembled so that we are only working with the lifter body.
How much thickness are you able to safely add to a standard 4" piston?
We can add and have added .015" and more to the diameter of a piston without any issues.
@@Line2LineCoatings wow thats crazy, i would like to send a set 4.005" ross racing pistons for a SBC in to get the skirts coated. Around how much would that cost?
@@CherezianRacing cost is determined by the number of pistons and the Target Coating Thickness. The base price for 8 pistons is $35/ea for up to .006" on the diameter, and $2 for each additional .001" above that. More detailed pricing can be found on our website at www.line2linecoatings.com/orderForm.html.
@@Line2LineCoatings thank you!
Steve brought me here
Came here after watching Steves video.
Kyle at SMS did a job well done promoting Line2line's services. The 2 of you made an extremely interesting, informative and from what I gleaned, as advantage producing. I learned something. Thanks for quickly helping Kyle out. I hope it benefits your business greatly. BTW, people are searching in RUclips for you, producing more current videos can't hurt.
Why all these adds when you cant by it where can I by A P C
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I want this product tell me how to get it
How in the hell do you get this coating
send your parts to them, with what you want done. fast turn around.
So what is the pricing per set of 8 cylinder
How long does it last
nao entendi,
Is there a preference of oil to use (conventional or synthetic) for the break in period and thereafter? And is it compatible with oil additives/friction modifiers? Thank you in advance.
lol
How would it work on some piston that have a bit of scorning. What is the max thickness of the coating on pistons.
+nFlames2 - we have applied our Abradable Powder Coatings™ to heavily scored pistons and it has worked very well. It won't fill in the scored areas entirely, but since we can apply up to .015" diametric thickness (.0075" per side) it will definitely help the piston fit tight in the bore again.
They should have had you guys pre-treat that big drill thing that got stuck under Seattle!