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Not as good a training too as gas blowback Airsoft, in my opinion. half decent teaching tool though.

Yeah, there's no chambering of rounds, so when it goes forward, it'll push the button on the back of the shell and fire if it touches enough. And if it doesn't fire, the first "shot" will eject the unfired round.

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Possible, sure. Wouldn't have enough force though, I suspect - it's just a tiny spring within the shell itself that propels them. You'd be better off with an Airsoft or Paintball gun shooting bearings or something.

See below - they actually stopped carrying them, so I don't currently know of anyone selling these... but of course rentals of everything you see here are available through FightDesigner.com

Haven't gotten to see one of those yet! Cost is more than double what this is, but it would work with the flash and smoke suppressor... hmm...

It should - the only real criteria are whether you can attach it (14mm ccw is pretty standard for threaded barrels on things like this) and whether you have either a projectile that will trigger it (bb should work fine - airsoft bbs do) or enough gas pushing through to trigger a hack like the mylar ribbon I was using, or make something else move in the barrel to trigger the motion sensor. So a spring-powered bb gun probably would work if you're actually firing bbs, or a C02 one should work with the hack.

Agreed. Bruni's one of my least-favorite brands... but there are some things only they sell, so...

I think the cheapie was from Temu, although they're all over the place now. The laser one, I think it was TonyaToys

@@fightdesigner Yes, I found the first one, I still can't find the second one, this is what I want🥲

@@fightdesigner I think I found it, thank you very much！！！

@@fightdesigner I guess I was wrong, TonyaToys charges a huge shipping fee for some reason🥲🥲

@@fightdesigner If it's not for your collection, I'd be very grateful if I could buy it from you:)

PPS gas Airsoft version of an XM26: fightdesigner.com/riflecapmain/PPSxm26.jpg

Nope. They have one of those, but this is based on the Strike Industries version of the Glock 17.

@ you sure because they look exactly the same

@ I just received mine in the mail yeah it is def a glock17 based gun

I’ve got holsters for both on the way anyway

@@willm687 well now you have an excuse to get the SIG too!

Haven't been able to find any guides on this... might have to give it a shot some time. Thanks!

Honestly not sure - it was a brand-X cheapie that used to be available on sites like Wish, with an Orange version formerly listed on Amazon (but not anymore).

@@fightdesigner Similar to this www.zhenduoblaster.com/Inductive-Flash-Tactical-Fire-Cap-Luminescent-Gun-Silencer-Water-absorbing-Toy-Accessories-p25505205.html

They have some cheaper plastic ones on AliExpress and elsewhere... but there are other issues with the cheaper ones - for example, if you rack the slide by hand, that breaks it. I explored some of those issues in other PewTube videos, including a sort of workaround.

@@fightdesigner i used to have a semi auto shell ejecting and firing one, except green. And indeed the slide does break when you slide it with your hand

@@GeuLumiguid2 this one it doesn't!

That was the one I got off a dropshipping site, that didn't really have any branding or info... but I think it's the same as the Smoke Wolf ones.

Probably, but there's a lot of parts to this... the mini-fan (not sure if the gas itself going through would be sufficient if set up that way... maybe?), the light sensor/motion switch (which you could probably set up another way if you want), the LEDs.. I doubt you could do it any cheaper than some of these cost.

I mean... it is a Nerf gun, but that said, it certainly doesn't look like the NERF guns I saw growing up.

Good idea!

What this channel is about, what I do through Fight Designer LLC, what my target audience does, is the safe use of firearm props in theatre and film. Not sure your personal knowledge of either shooting people or getting shot, but hopefully neither happened on a film set!

Yeah, and a better way of triggering them without firing projectiles would be nice as well - the hack using the little streamer means it goes off just from movement as well.

Main thing was just swapping out the barrel for one I 3d printed. If I were going all out, I'd do more (I have another video where I show a bit of one I painted, where I also filled in some of the screw holes, etc.), but these aren't worth it, and the higher-end laser version makes that kind of work a bit unnecessary... get yourself one of those as your hero prop, maybe alongside an Airsoft Gas blowback Strike Industries one (which is the most expensive of the prop options so far, at about $200), and some of these cheapies for disposable stunt props or background props.

Looked around and can't find it online anymore, sadly... but it was super-cheap plastic, available in black or orange different places, sized to fit Nerf darts not airsoft bbs.

It was similar to this www.zhenduoblaster.com/Inductive-Flash-Tactical-Fire-Cap-Luminescent-Gun-Silencer-Water-absorbing-Toy-Accessories-p25505205.html. ...but now they have some long ones that do smoke too!

Available several places, but I believe I got these from TonyaToys

Yours had instructions? In English, even?

So far as I can tell, the criteria are: 1. gas coming out. Yes, if you're not using it as a prop, that can also be something that fires bbs, pellets, gel balls, nerf darts, or whatever else fits through these things, but as a prop, with the ribbon hack I'm using, it just needs to have a burst of gas to wiggle the ribbon and trigger the motion sensor. 2. Threaded barrel. 14mm counter-clockwise, which is pretty standard. 3. space for a suppressor - some semi autos jam up if there's something pressing up against the front, so you may need to use an adapter that has a spacer built in. That's true of real and fake semi autos, but I wouldn't assume that the airsoft versions always act the same as the real ones they're based on.

@@pewtube Yeah I was really just asking what pistols you've gotten this to work with. I have a VP9 C02 one but it doesn't have a 14mm thread. Trying to find other options.

@@DoItJustinKace you can get adapters for most common models, going from internal threading for things like 12, 13, 14mm to external 14mm ccw threading (which is what these need), but you have to know what size you need, AND you may need a spacer if the model you have needs that extra space to operate. Some models the barrel's got to rock back a bit when it cycles, and if there's something sticking out right at the end, it blocks the action, so sometimes you need an adapter with a spacer in the middle. Sadly those are a bit harder to find.

Sorry... haven't been brave enough to try that yet!

@@fightdesigner its okay lol

@@fightdesigner i disassembled it myself but i couldnt find the problem.

@@sadfu09 oh, disassembling is the easy part...!

Yeah, cool looking stuff. The complexity is a bit intimidating... we'll see!

Nope. Not a functional suppressor in any way.

So in theory this would work fine with the Marushin gas blowback shell ejecting 1911s or CZ75 that I have, but frankly those aren't the most reliable, and they're rare and discontinued models. Ditto with something like the APS or PPS gas shell ejecting shotguns, although you don't generally put a suppressor on a shotgun. But in general, because shell casings don't affect the environment as much as light does (and the smoke helps give the light a platform), shell casings are easier to CG in later in post. Or... you know... go back to using full load front vent blanks, but then it's too loud for live theatre, has serious safety implications, is more expensive to run, etc. Unfortunately this system won't really work with the spring blowback shell ejecting models I've been showcasing lately, because there's no gas out the front to create motion to trigger the mechanism.

I forget to say that here we don’t have something like sagftra, I’m also an actor and this is a fucking jungle and my skills and time are getting loose by the time, and are not matched with the amount of work that I should have. Sorry for the long text!

@@ReyPerformance that's a tough one... For over a decade I found my balance by teaching, which let me both have some stability (income, insurance - which in the US is a big factor) while getting to indulge in this work when I wanted. This past year I had to move for family reasons, and take what work I could, so now I'm back to doing an office day job and just playing with this stuff as a side-hustle or even hobby. I haven't been on a SAG set in a few years now. It's rough.

@@pewtube i guess at the end everyone have problems no matter the country or situation, i appreciate your answer and honesty sometimes i thought to make the jump to usa or canada for the filming industry but sometimes it is more like a dream more than something realistic, thank you mate! hope everything is good !