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What is this Fallout 3 erasure? Fallout 3 was an open world game changer with incredible environmental storytelling and unofficial side quests you couldn’t track in your Pip Boy. Looking at you, Dunwich Building.

CURSE!!!!!

"Elden Ring does what Ninten don't" is the real title 👍

They should have gave a sword, special magic, and a meter to do a huge attack with the triforce of wisdom. Or she could have used it to make herself smarter. I like the idea of this game and I'll play it since i only touched alttp. But yeah this game should have done something different with Zelda.

Does anyone else think that the early fan criticism of Zelda TP and the overall lukewarm reception of Skyward Sword ended up as a double edged sword situation? Like the response was BOTW which ended up executing the the idea the original NES Zelda set out. But lost the magic of the traditional Zelda era? Low key seems like they rebooted the Zelda series.

Ain't no way he said The witcher 3's world isn't worth exploring

Elden Ring is a fantastic game but BOTW does more to gaming than Elden Ring ever did. That being said although both are open world they go for very very different goals. Elden Ring is mostly around combat and “carrot on a stick” type exploration. Trying to motivate the player on the promise of a new item. Although this can be effective I find that BOTW trying to break free of this over reliance on this method and more minimalist approach much more refreshing. But looking at gaming as a whole it’s good to have all these different games and experiences. Another way BOTW (and TOTK) are fresh is the unmatched level of environmental interactivity that makes the world feel so much more alive regardless of existence of the player. I hope in the future for more complex npc interactions to make the world come even more alive.

bow is good, but Elden is light years ahead ! You can't compare the uncomparable .

The amount of insane builds you can make is truly next level. A few months ago I made a gravity mage build and it was genuinely one of the most fun runs I’ve had in this game using spells like meteorite of astel and the other gravity spells. Plus I love coming up with the lore for my characters when making these builds, even if it does contradict the actual lore of the game it’s still really fun

I loved the messy combat in the final boss. I felt like a mage, a true priestess, just like surely nint intended because well here you play as zelda. I believe echoes is a step in the right direction for new zelda games. And the lore drops were incredible.

Just because there are many things to collect, doesnt mean the game is good. Most items in ER are just pseudo content that forces you to waste time. Best example would be the sacdu fragments. Mizayaki and his friends intentionally overtuned the DLC bosses, so they could force the same mechanic on you one more time. Because smithing stones, bell bearings, grave worts, pots and bottles, cookbooks, sacred tears and golden seeds in the base game are not enough grinding. AND NOPE, Miyzaki does not want you to "play with different builds," because even respeccing requires item grinding.

I disagree with that, the open world is bad implemented First is beautiful, but a dead beautiful world beacuse there no world interaction or action in Elden 's world besides combat Second the exploration isn't well rewarded, beacuse for all the items you can get, some of them can't be exploited cause status or limited smithing stones This game consumes a lot of time for you to explore until you level up enough, or by finding the sources you need In comparison whith Zelda, Elden Ring doesn't promote exploration but enforces it, and it doesn't rewards it very well

Breath of the Wild: Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!

Then it's not a Zelda game, it's only a Zelda game in name, and Nintendo is only prancing around wearing the deteriorated dead skin of an old beloved franchise, masquerading as something it's not. Nintendo became a skin-walker. deku scrub, something, whatever

This is a very good video. Although, I'd argue that Elden Ring isn't as much about exploration as much as it's a natural evolution of the Souls genre. Other Souls games (including Sekiro and Bloodborne) you're sort of in a "amusement park" of a map. They're interconnected nicely but they're not open world. Then Elden Ring explodes on you and shows you this vast open world (and underworld). Maybe the inspiration was BOTW but I'd argue the inspiration is much closer to something like The Witcher. But, I can offer a really interesting retrospect to your entire video. I agree that "open world" games became just a bunch of check lists and to do-s. And that Elden Ring isn't that. However I played Elden Ring like that and I had a blast. To me Elden Ring isn't about exploration, it's about the bosses, the difficulty of it. So the way I played was I would first get the full map for a region and then I'd find a online map that shows all the bosses in the region and I'd just start chipping away at that list. Made me feel like some sort of a hitman, and yes in the process of going from Dungeon A to Dungeon B I would encounter and see cool stuff. A lot of people told me it was a stupid way to play the game, but I had a blast. But that's just me. I get sort of overwhelmed at big open worlds because I want to be able to do it all but in ER you can never be sure you did it all (one of my major gripes, I mean a quest tracker would be nice). Finally, I think you weren't really fair in the whole RP aspect of Elden Ring vs BOTW. Since in BOTW you're playing as a predetermined protagonist you're there to experience his story. In fact I'd say Link is as flexible as he gets in the predetermined protagonist category on the account of the fact he doesn't speak. But take for example The Witcher. You're Geralt. Sure you can roleplay as a Sign user Geralt (more magic) or pure Swordsman (what I did) or a healthy mix (essentially a Witcher lol) but underneath it all you're still Geralt and you're playing through what is his story. Same can be said for Link. But in games like Elden Ring and Skyrim for example, you're set to unravel your own character because the character you start with is essentially a nobody, an empty sheet of paper. Granted in Skyrim you're the Dragonborn but regardless your Dragonborn can be of any race, any gender and use any weapon you want. Same is in Elden Ring and other souls games (other than Sekiro ofc). So comparing the ability to RP as whatever you want in ER vs in BOTW isn't really fair in my opinon. PS. Go jump over that rock made me laugh, nice one. Overall nice video.

Thanks for the spoiler warning

Nintendo's for kids, bro!

I think Eldenring is better than Breath of the Wild, but I don't think it's better than Tears of the Kingdom...

What’s funny is that Brothership’s IGN reviews in other countries are a lot more positive than the NA review.

Overall it’s a good game. The constant ass kissing of Zelda by everyone did get a little annoying though.

Aonuma is a scrub

So, Aonuma is deku scrub now?

5:16 youre supposed to be grabbing the arms and making openings for link and your echos. Its not nintendos fault that youre not being active in that fight. Youre the princess of wisdom fighting with the hero if courage. OF COURSE youd be allyooping his attacks. I personally hate the giving up the weapons ending too, but i at least accept that it makes sense and acknowledge that youre NOT useless in that fight so long as you actually participate

I think nothing will ever top the first time I played Breath of the Wild in terms of freedom. Simply because it was the first game I played that pushed it hard. I remember turning on the console without an objective in mind. I love to explore for shrines and towers, but I would do and find anything really. It was very special, so it will always be my favorite game just for that.

The problem is that the new generation of gamers have not played classic Zelda like Ocarina and Majoras Mask, with its phenomenal music, progression, and deep story and fun items (hookshot my favourite too!) Because botw and totk are likely the first zelda games people have played and their success financially and numbers sold, Nintendo will likely not return to the classic Zelda I enjoyed on the n64, gamecube, and Wii. I loved the 2d games on the gameboys and DS's. Classic zelda is something older gamers can hold dear. I played botw, hated it, just beat the story minimally to say I finished it and did not bother buying totk. I did enjoy echoes though.

So, about the Null fight! You can actually bind to its hands and Link's AI will allow him to run over and chop them off for you. While granted, not too big of a role, it will allow Link to be more of use and up the cooperation with him. It was something I noticed in your gameplay, and I'm a little surprised you never did that lol While I do love all of the classic Zelda games, I still like the mechanics the modern games introduce as well, even if they're a bit clunky. I personally enjoy the freedom and open-airness the modern Zelda games have, but I do want it to stay true to its roots, so I personally think EoW was a good step in the right direction, even if it was small. :) I think new gameplay mechanics and items could be introduced, but you can only get them after a certain point in time (like getting past the mid-way point of a dungeon) but in turn allows the world to become more free to the player and just let them skedaddle. But these points are very well-said, and it's refreshing to see actual valid criticism of the game that's not just "the game looked bad to me but I played it anyway and it SUCKED because I said so." This was a pretty cool video!

What botw doesn’t?

ToTK has a target audience dedicated to the sandbox player who is creative and some of the things people have made are quite incredible but it would have been nice if it wasnt a Zelda game but a new IP that was about a massive sandbox that you can do what your heart desires. I know the formula was getting stale for Zelda over the last 3 decades (geez) and if you work at Nintendo, I'm sure you would be getting tired of making the same formula over and over again but Zelda's biggest strength to me is item based progression. Whereas Metroid games are about ability based progression, Zelda games always have this amazing "aha" moment when you get a new item like say the Hookshot and your brain puts two and two together to all the hookshot targets you have seen across the game world up until the point you got the Hookshot. That feeling is Zelda to me. BotW and TotK don't have the item based progression so I never got that "aha" moment. Now for BotW I did feel accomplished when i finally found my way to where i wanted to go and thats where BotW succeeds in having exploration based progression but as you have said in the video, TotK loses the reward for exploration as once you figure out the "optimal" way to progress you can use it in almost every situation. To those people who enjoyed TotK, thats great and if you got to fully utilise the tools the sandbox gave you then I'm happy but I really wish it was a new IP instead of a Zelda game.

Play Valheim

facts

Aonuma is a deku scrub and what do we say about scrubs in the Bomber's Gang?

Doesn’t*

Bros never played Ac origins or odyssey. 2 of the most memorable worlds ever made and they were by Ubisoft. Js

The thing about the devs not being able to get deep into the puzzle craft because they have no idea which echoes you have hit the nail on the coffin. I really liked EoW but I've noticed a trend lately of games in general (especially nintendo games) seeming like they have a fear of the player becoming lost or stuck. Sure it's annoying in the moment if you reach an area only to find out you can't progress because you missed something, but imo it's what made games like OoT so special the first time. A big part of the joy in classic zelda as a kid was, (for me,) wandering around not knowing wtf I was even looking for until I stumbled upon a new objective or area. It felt like I was really exploring a magical new world and the first time in BotW brought that back. Nowadays with TotK and EoW I immediately knew right away where I was supposed to go and what I was supposed to do because the game literally hand feeds you everything you need from the get-go. (and insures that even if you didn't get what you were supposed to, you can just work around the puzzles anyway with some broken mechanic.)

Breath of the wild is fucking trash.

Elden Ring and BOTW are two games I completed, enjoyed, and have no desire whatsoever to replay. I feel like they both rely on repetitive gameplay and take a more “quantity over quality” approach, to varying degrees of success. I know people love these games but neither of them really scratched the itch of a fulfilling journey from start to finish, just unrelenting same-y gameplay.

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Elden ring kinda gets repetitive tbh. The dungeons are too samey and there’s too many reused enemies and bosses. And the dlc turned me off reusing Radhan as final boss. Beat Elden ring 11 times and the dlc 5 so I did get my fill but it did def have its flaws

Literally just the Zelda cycle striking again. When Skyward Sword came out people hated the Zelda formula more than anything. People were dismissing Zelda as stale and boring. Now post BOTW people want it back.

I don’t think these two games merit a comparison between each other. They’re completely different games with different visions and agendas. Let’s just separately enjoy them both

Thank you for making this video so I didn't have to! You saved me a lot of time and editing! Also 0:51 was funny as fuck! XD

I feel like modern gaming is just everyone bitching about things they don't like in games. Like literally all you ever see is people bitching about how games suck now like why not shut the fuck up and let the rest of us enjoy things. I hate people I swear to fucking god.

Lore of Echoes of Wisdom was the LAST STRAW momentum 100

This video is exactly my mindset. I grew up with botw being the first Zelda game I actually beat but then I went back to the older games and I have to say they are far better with challenge and (imo) are way more fun because after trail of the sword was beaten there’s nothing to do in botw other than grind for armor upgrades, same with totk but with even less pre grinding content. As for eow I haven’t played it, the whole echos thing turned me off from it since the start.

You have it wrong. Echoes of Wisdom honors the lore of Classic Zelda. Gameplay should not be people's only and primary concern. And even the gameplay is fun and good for the size and format of the game.. Everything about the game made me love it. Total disagree. It's a blending of Classic Zelda and the modern interfaces of new Zeldas. I think Nintendo is pushing in a good direction with it. People takes are so different I guess. . .

Great vid altho i feel like maybe the video was cut short a bit, would be cool if you did a comparison between the features of botw and elden ring and some stuff that evolved in a good way :3

Dude, I thought I was crazy for thinking like you when there's a LOT of people liking this game. Ending it was like a chore. I'm really sad about the new direction Zelda is taking. I'm also 24 and I feel like I try so hard to be open minded and not be a boomer who likes old stuff. But I just can´t. The essence is just not there.

I think there's a balance to be struck here, we can have the open ended games but we need more designed experiences around select abilities. Where some of the classic games failed is that items can sometimes be useless outside of dungeons or select spots, where the newer games fail is that every puzzle becomes either so watered down you can just brute force your way through them and or just a memory game of what you have rather than the puzzle being smart. I like the sandboxy nature of the new games but echoes especially I wish had less options but with more designed functionality, Totk is really innovative but they mostly apply the tools to the same copy paste shrines and encounters and its so open it breaks exploration. They coulda approach it like a metroid game where items open up world progression or up the quality of side content and enemies, ie take the puzzles out of the generic shrine format and work them into side quests and design enemies around specific items.

Echoes of Wisdom went hard. Perfect Balance of New formula and Old Formula. I did not have an issue with the combat. I enjoyed the combat a lot.

but you do get some items in Echoes of Wisdom