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Botch Projects
Добавлен 25 июл 2018
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Botch Projects is a channel where documentations and tutorials related to metal working and robotics will be published.
This is a free-time project of mine to share my builds and knowledge with people who are interested, enjoy!
Botch Projects is a channel where documentations and tutorials related to metal working and robotics will be published.
This is a free-time project of mine to share my builds and knowledge with people who are interested, enjoy!
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[CNC-Mill] Ep00 - Let me catch you up and explain...
Просмотров 3 тыс.6 лет назад
So in this video I'm just talking to you uncut to bring you to my current state of the build. I welded and painted everything before I figured out to document it... Therefore I'm making this explanaition video to catch you up and give you an idea where we are going!
[CNC-Mill] Ep01 - Gantry Assembly
Просмотров 28 тыс.6 лет назад
Unfortunatly this is the first video I recorded during the build of this CNC machine because I started this channel mid-project. No problem though, the only thing you missed is how I welded the frame and gantry construction and painted them.
What the #!$% is Botch Projects?
Просмотров 2696 лет назад
In this very first "video" i explain to you what this channel is about, who I am and what I'm going to do here.
See you next time. Will check in another 6 years if something new got released 😅
It’s bad practice to tin the ends. When you screw them into the terminals everything will be fine for the moment but after a couple months they will come lose. You better use nothing or ferrules.
Im also encountering issues with tightnening my M5 screws after I drilled and tapped my gantry railways. I believe its due to the tap being worn down so I bought a new tap set and will make a few more tapping passes to further clear the threads for the screws. With one bolt I tried to screw it with the drill really fast and even if it didnt snap, its threads got torn and useless. Also, I got some severe warping from welding, like almost 2mm sag in the middle compared to the ends over the 1m length of the gantry, its gonna be a real nightmare getting rig of that...
I found this while looking for fabricated gantry examples - very nice! Any opinions on mig welding something like this instead of tig? I'd guess not that different if only short beads are done.
Im gonna stick weld mine... What a pain XD
is it normal that green LED flashes, if only DC+ and DC- is connected to the servo?
You don't have a link to where you got the wires ? Also what are those green connections from ?
I want to buy the same motors, i ll use DDCS v4.1 , can you tell me where and how you connect the encoders ?
I work, assembled machines with the same structure, only they have, a tank between the rails. My problem has been aligning the rails on each side, to ensure parallelism and squareness. The rails are located at a distance of 3 meters from each other. Do you know any technical and effective alignment system. Well, I do it empirically with a tensioned steel wire.
Nice to see a machine made with steel weldments instead of aluminum extrusions.
Super tough cnc
I had watched this on fast forward a few months ago, but this time I sat through all of the audio, and it was incredibly insightful. Using the epoxy float to square and level the rails independent of any welding warping is genius. The board that goes on the table is called the “spoil board” I know you don’t like wood. Sometimes it is made out of the pink rigid insulation instead, which is more tolerant of moisture without warping. It is assumed that some of your cuts will penetrate your work piece and start tearing up your table. Another alternative is to paint it with an oil based paint, which makes it fairly waterproof. However before you do that flatten it with the mill and a fly cutter. It does not matter how flat the wood is to the floor or to level as long as it is flat to the gantry. Usually there are 2 spoil boards he bottom one sets flatness, and maybe has channels for the vacuum work holding. The top spoil board gets replaced frequently, and maybe has lots of intentional holes and channels to aid in vacuum work holding.
Дякую!
This looks really cool. Its a shame you don't record the entire build, id watch it.
You are a little bit wrong about the interface.. the position and alarm lines are outputs from the servo. (Notice the optocouplers in the picture are mirrored) They can pull a line to gnd, if this line is connected to a pullup resistor. (Do not connect directly positive voltage without a risistor to it.. it will be like a short) The error line will connent the signal to gnd if there’s an error, the position line is connected to gnd while the servo is driving to its position.
hey welches controller board & welche steuerungssoftware hast du verwendet?
if i look at the wiring at the end you conect pul+ DIR+ and ENA+ of the same wire? in the maniul it tels my Remark: (1) t1: ENA must be ahead of DIR by at least 5μ s. Usually, ENA+ and ENA- are NC (not connected). (2) t2: DIR must be ahead of PUL active edge by 6μ s to ensure correct direction; (3) t3: Pulse width not less than 2.5μ s; (4) t4: Low level width not less than 2.5μ s. but i dont now how to set it up corectly only way i can think of is for ENA+ to be powerd when i pouwer the machine
Would love to see the rest
Maschine work? take more video
You have 7 lead cable. What happened to other 3 leads?
thnx man started mine ,was strugling with the leveling ...you helped me alot
How did you handle the fact that steel is bending when beeing welded / exposed to heat..? Your structure mus have warped slightly during the welding, how did you deal with this issue?
I welded everything and then poured all precision surfaces with epoxy resin to make them flat relative to each other
nice video!! I bought the same motors.... can you explain how you install them and setup the software..
RF I think it is straight forward process. You can clearly see the installation in the videp
That is a very nice machine. Any tips for things that you would avoid doing if you did it again?
Don't go too big. What I mean by that is don't try to make a machine that's capable of everything, it's better to invest some extra credits in regidity and better quality components than size! In my case I'm happy to have a large mill to manifacture tabletops and stuff but if you want to mill small pieces and mostly metal, build more rigid and smaller.
@@botchprojects3095 Most likely, if your cnc had been smaller and rigid, you would have longed for a larger one, at the expense of some rigidity. We are humans afterall !
I want to add to this video information that is missing. First you must run 24v (no less) to the driver side for step/pulse. Anything less they will not rotate. For optimal performance the servos like 48v 20 amp supplies. For the dip switches if you plan to machine with them you need no less than 40,000 steps, preferably 51,200 to optimize torque or you will not have enough torque and trigger missed steps. For Hertz (pulse frequency) control settings these are rated at 250,000hz so you need a setting equivalent or higher. I used 400,000 in my control and anything less they will barely rotate. Anyone who wants to program theirs via rs232 I have the JMC software application to access the internal settings and I am willing to share with you just ask. As far as those connectors go they are junk and unreliable. Even if you solder connections they can come loose. There is a fix. Take some hot glue and glue the wires to the connector which will also make it water proof and prevent them from pulling out from vibration or movement.
What do you call hertz control ? The normal Step/dir interface is reference to 250kHz max in the datasheet. No official way the 400kHz you mention would work. Also with such a high "micro stepping" (40 000 or more) it's normal than you need a lot of step per revolution and so a high number of step pulse to turn just a bit the motor. Assuming that one "full" step make the motor do a complete rotation (from what I have understand here --> ruclips.net/video/A5QgvOsf7nI/видео.html )the problem with such a high "micro stepping" will be that for example if my machine use 10mm pitch ball screw and I use 40 000 "micro step" my machine would only go up to 250 000/40 000 = 6.25revolution per second *10mm pitch = 62.5mm/s *60 = 3750mm/min witch is rather slow. Maybe I'm wrong with the 1 "full" step per revolution, but if this drive really need a high "micro step" to have the full torque that would be a little disappointing ! EDIT www.upload.sorotec.de/doku/manuals/DS_iHSV57en_181023_Soro.pdf The datasheet said that's it's the number of pulse per revolution "Pulses per revolution of the iHSV57 can be configured via DIP switch S1-S4 or by the tuning software" so my calculation seems right
Geekoid , your pulse frequency needs to be 250k or higher.
Geekoid , These are not steppers nor do they react like them. Your thoughts apply to steppers only. AC servos function much differently and the dip switches for better explanation have nothing to do with steps. In fact these motors shouldn’t even have dip switches but the fact is they do and the function is not like a stepper. They are meant for different internal programs. They do offer a stepper model and yes these are often confused. Stepper model is IHSS57 Instead of IHSV57. By the way these servos are plenty strong enough to power a bench mill.
@@glennedward2201 Okay, I was in fact talking about the ac servo version you mentioned. So on this version the micro stepping I choose will not only act as normal and so reduce the speed and increase the accuracy for a given square wave frequency but also change something in the internal program that make it have more torque. Am I right ?
I'm just setting these up myself, and I have had success with the opposite. I'm using UCCNC AXBB-E controller, where I can set the frequency from 100kHz to 400kHz. Anything over 100kHz does NOT work for me, at all. At 100kHz, and setting the dip switches to either 800 pulses per rev, or 1600 pulses per rev, I get amazing motion. See my video here testing them out: ruclips.net/video/voVWMctjNIw/видео.html
Hello, great series up to now. What's happened with the build - are you still going to be uploading the rest of this?
Hi but your nice black paint job. Just funnin with you from your prior video. Thank you for the share, hoping you will be back. Lance & Patrick.
We are new here, we love our precision machinery and we are happy to be here at your channel and hope to get to see this entire build over time. Belt drives are fine, direct drives are fine. Your gantry bridge is really well built, liking the framing of it. Your work is looking really nice. Thank you for sharing Lance & Patrick.
Cool project, looks expensive though. What's the cost so far?
Hi there. What going on with your project?
Great build dude! Gantry looks sturdy enough. a bit worried about the Z plates tho. any update? would be great to see some tolerance tests and performance in a vid
Very nice build I’m in the middle of a 4x6 cnc router table right now thanks for sharing
Wow amazing project! I am looking to make one myself, because I cannot afford a ready one. Would you be willing to share your CAD file so that your audience may also experiment? Keep up the great work!
what motor controller are you using? I have to buy one...
I’m using Centeoid Acorn and it works well.
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Welche Kabel hast Du verwendet?
Ölflex classic FD 810 CY 7 G 0,5
Good job!! where did you got these pullies? this is the biggest gantry I have seen... oh my god.. .it's huge..
www.maedler.de/product/1643/1616/zahnriemenraeder-t-profil
thanks god!!! finally I found someone explaning how to build with this JMC motors... I bought 3 of them but I don't know how to put all together... :S
I have 3 and none work
Smae situation, but waiting in buying it. Would you recomend it as well?
your cables is very vary thick!!!!