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You’re welcome, glad it helped.

i see a thum lift really when i deal the ace down but that's when Im done demonstrating but I see what you are saying I have been watching steve fortes videos on his website just to start messing with all of the secondeals and such I still think that little brief work for the second is a great deal and I think that's something we are gonna have to agree to disagree.

@ it changes when you go from dealing a top to the second

Thanks for the advice, I’ll try that out. It’s always good to be critiqued.

@ I apologize if I was rude, it’s how I was given advice

@@MiguelWebb-kx1xn it’s no problem

What in the Sam Hell? Nah just playing man if you want I’ll post another you can see the order of the cards before the deal. It’s no legend just skill.

Thanks!

I got mine off of vanishing inc it’s the premium thick one from by Murphy magic the largest size.

@@MagicJames58 Many thanks!! 🙏🙏

I appreciate it

Yes that’s the best place and that is how a fair deal the stud

Yes a version of this is from the ultimate card shark the method is a what’s know as riffle stacking mixed with a Zarrow shuffle.

@@MagicJames58 Right, I thought I recognised it from there 😀 Really useful stuff, being able to stack with disturbing the rest if the cards. Really nice execution too 👍

@ needs some work I don’t practice Zarrow stacking often

its a very underground technique it really comes down to trial and error.

Greek deal can be learned from the lecture Notes (Down Under deals by Andrew Whimhurst)

I think that is a very good insight as someone who has studied Richard Turner he actually said the same thing but in reality, this doesn't matter as what you point out is never gonna be recognized by laymen also because it's a strike second not a push off its almost supposed to be a dead deck Jason Ladanye does a very similar second deal and his strike does not revolve around a moving thumb but the size of the brief work and the consistency of the deal. so how bout this if you could post a video showing a strike second without a dead thumb that is great because the way I perceive is that it really doesn't matter for this style of deal.

@MagicJames58 you got instagram?

@@MiguelWebb-kx1xn nah

@@MagicJames58 I posted it

@@MiguelWebb-kx1xn let me explain something that thumb move ment is gonna give you away at the card table the reason being your grabbing a completely different place to grab the second card then the top card in other words the takes do not look the same and trust me when I say that’s the most important thing to all false deals

Funny I think the Erdnase is great bottom deal it’s not my favorite personally but if I have a deck of cards that is sticky it’s great also it’s probably this best deal if your doing stud bottoms keep in mine the bottom deal is really just a war of persistence and time kept up the good work you will get where you want to be.

I do use push offs but typically for my stud takes though I haven’t put enough time into them

@@MagicJames58nice, I love doing push offs more than strikes. They are fun to do, difficult though.

Once every 3 to 5 months especially after having big improvements over the techniques and material from the previous lessson.

@@MagicJames58 Awesome! It's an investment but it seems to pay of. Your bottoms are looking good 👍

@@4suits thanks man

Glad you like it!

I’ll teach the muck in a future video though if you want to learn it now Houston Curtis should have a video on it.

@@MagicJames58alright, luckily I have Steve fortes gambling sleight of hand

Thanks man

It was squared it’s just been cut out due to time restraint

It looks good from most angles I do plan to do a tutorial video specifically on the erdnase technique for expert at the card table since it is in the public domain notice though for the retention I turn my wrist in this helps limit the angle from other people around the card table if you are using this live or under fire in a game.

I was just asking to give advice, your using an angle that hides any flaws, which is good for use but not for practice. You shouldn’t move the card back when dealing studs, your thumb doesn’t move when taking the bottom card etc. while Jason’s bottom deal looks fine from the left angles he’s far from a bottom deal to look up to. Steve fortes bottom deal clears, try looking at his hidden secrets of magic, his center deal fools magicians to this day

I’ve never see Steve Fortes center deal as for his bottoms they are good but their good cause they are fast not because they visually look like the top card is being taken also there is a small but obvious flutter when he does deal his bottom in other words it really comes down to preference and in the context of a game or magic performance they are both going to do well the only people that nick pick bottoms ( me included) are magicians but that mainly because they have to do it under examination while in a card game you do it on the off beat where no one is looking if you could provide a source where I can see Steves Centers that would be splendid I just did a video demonstrating my centers and it’s not very good. Thanks for the advice but I don’t fully understand what you mean for the stud takes could you clarify it. Thanks man.

I can’t fully disclose what Jason has given me but he uses an erdnase style push off bottom for stud takes I recommend looking up Darwin Ortiz doing the bottom deal also watch Daniel Roy’s bottom deal video finally look at all of Jason’s bottom deal videos. The strike bottom deal for stud takes really is just getting good at taking the cards from that grip. Keep in mind a good stud takes almost solely on the retention not the speed or type of push off.

@@MagicJames58 i agree for the stud thing :) well I'm gonna keep watching people in slow mo then

Thanks man

Thanks a lot man i really appreciate it. it just goes to show that practice and persistence equals results

@@MagicJames58 your welcome!

You should

Thanks!

Obliviously but I’m not gonna deal some bullshit hand in a video that people don’t understand the value of also check the video again and you will realize it’s not a bottom deal as the top cards change

Bro who made you so mad? It’s a magic trick lol 😂

@@alexandertaddy4639 I'm not mad I've always been interested in bottom dealing I just don't understand how you can get the cards you want in the right places. I'm just saying it's not a good idea to be doing this in real games you will legitimately get hurt.

Have seen Daniel Madison do it on watched a video of Jason Ladanye doing it and I thought that would be a fun video to post

Thanks it takes a lot of time but I can’t tell how much a bottom deal will serve you in magic

Been a second since you uploaded friend you good

@@MagicJames58 I haven't got any time to record 😥 school os getting busier now

That’s ok