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Flatland: A Deep Dive Into Dimensionality
Oh me, oh my! This sure was an interesting video to make! Flatland is a story that I’ve been familiar with for a loooong time, and when I found out a few months ago that there was a movie? Yeah that really pulled me down a rabbit hole. And honestly, I’m glad it did- it was really fun revisiting this story and seeing the various ways in which it’s been adapted.
Who knows? Maybe someday a new adaptation will befall the internet.
Here are links to the Flatland shorts I talked about!
Flatland 1965: ruclips.net/video/yBbZmwROv84/видео.html
Flatlandia (1982): ruclips.net/video/tNDhjYQKWt4/видео.html
60 Degrees: A Flatland Film: ruclips.net/video/GpqmoOqLhmw/видео.htmlsi=pexpT-zjh6Lsc936
A Square and...
Who knows? Maybe someday a new adaptation will befall the internet.
Here are links to the Flatland shorts I talked about!
Flatland 1965: ruclips.net/video/yBbZmwROv84/видео.html
Flatlandia (1982): ruclips.net/video/tNDhjYQKWt4/видео.html
60 Degrees: A Flatland Film: ruclips.net/video/GpqmoOqLhmw/видео.htmlsi=pexpT-zjh6Lsc936
A Square and...
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The Death of the 2D character
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BIGGERING song storyboard: ruclips.net/video/BpgUQYARIsw/видео.html I wrote this script a couple years ago, but after reading "The Word for World is Forest", felt a need to turn my script into an actual video to finally get my thoughts out there. I miss the days when not every villain had to be 'tragic' in some way and not every character had to have some deep complex backstory. Sometimes, simp...
I named by fucking channel after one of the characters
yippeee I love Flatland ^__^
yay flatland!!
Flatland my beloved, I desperately need more people to talk about this book.
same. needs to be part of the Western literary canon honestly.
I was traumatized by the film as a kid. Great video!
how were you traumatized lol
@ I was like 6 when I first saw it. the reconfiguration hospital scene ruined my day, and I couldn’t stop thinking about it for a while
Your brother is expendable.
I actually have the flatland book! Really good story(not northward, upward!) also seen the animated movie(look out it’s a woman). Also I had book of bill afterwards(REALITY IS AN ILLUSION)
I clicked for flatland.
So I read the two explicit Flatland stories and...well. One seems very faithful to the original Flatland and is barely titillating (it's almost more of a treatise), whereas the other...okay, the other one is A. Square being down bad for A. Sphere. It was mostly amusing, but the sheer ecstasy A. Square felt did raise my temperature just a wee bit.
thanks for taking one for the team hahaha
This was a fun video to come across, since I have read Flatland myself. It's been a long time since I've read it, however, so the overview was a good refresher. Also, yes, I'm 100% with you on the idea of bringing back that late 90s/early 00s animation. What was once technical limitations has become an aesthetic. :P
I clicked for Flatland actually haha
I started reading the book thanks to you I only reed a few pages but I'm injoying it thanks bro
You did a fantastic job dragging me not only into the flatland fan base, but also my geometry phase. My paperback copy of Flatland is on the way, and I commend you greatly for furthering my mathematic redemption arc
I'm super happy to hear that! Geometry is one of the best math subjects imo!
Never seen more than an episode of gravity falls. Im here for geometry
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1:43 You changing from your avatar to a Line Segment should not have made me laugh as hard as it did lmfao
I'm glad you liked it hahaha
I'm really curious about the end of the 2007 Flatland as A square just falls into the void and is greeted by just a light and voice
@@jacksonhartman3187 same!
nah im here for Flatland, that movie was so good for how obscure it is
!!!!!!!! Sorry to leave two comments but I also love your employment of the Super Paper Mario music, as playing it was also one of my favorite activities.
@@gamerrfm9478 it was just too fitting!
As a small child watching the flatland movie on RUclips in 480p was one of my favorite activities ^_^
I was introduced to flatland when my middle school math teacher showed us the newer movie on a Friday at the end of the year to "get us ready for geometry" which we would be taking the next year. I have really enjoyed it ever since. the running joke all throughout my four years of highschool was the whole class asking our math teacher if we could watch flatland
That's hilarious! Yeah like I said I'm not surprised that movie is popular among math teachers lol
@@SpaceChannelDelta This was a really great video, I'm really happy there are more flatland and math enjoyers out there
I remember watching the Flatland movie specifically because of my obsession with Bill Cipher when I was 13, which then turned into an obsession about both of those things. I picked up that the way lines were treated was meant to be commentary back then already, but missed a lot of the other political commentary since I wasn't as educated on those topics. Recently, I got the movie recommended on my RUclips feed because of the Book of Bill reviving the fandom (Gravity Galls strikes again) and now as an adult, I could pick up more of the nuances in the story. I find the bad CGI and weird presentation of it to be kind of charming.
Mostly came to this video because I've been working with higher dimensions a lot because I wanted to use higher dimensional elementary particles for magic, which requires a lot of jumping between 1, 2, and 3 dimensions to fit the concepts into my head, so flatland is helpful for understanding things.
26:00 like watching this far into this video
Very nice. A quick note on What The Bleep Do We Know: the Flatland segment is by far the least offensive part of that movie. The rest of it is just absolute pseudoscience shlock, complete garbage full of quantum mysticism and other assorted nonsense (at some point they talk about quantum channeling of Ramtha). In an unrelated note, believe it or not there is not just one, but TWO roleplaying games based on Flatland: there's The Original Flatland Role Playing Game by Forgotten Futures, and Flatland (Inflated): the RPG by Red Anvil Productions (fun fact: as originally published, it was erroneously called *Edward* Abbot Abbot's Flatland (Inflated): the RPG). I actually ran an adventure in The Original Flatland RPG some ten years ago, called In The Mountains of Flatness. I've been meaning to run it again, but obviously it's a really hard sell! Find me three willing peeps and I'll run it again. Thanks for the video on this fascinating topic: I think Jasper Fforde was spot on in calling Flatland "the last original idea".
Yeah I looked into the movie more and it did seem like a lot of pseudoscience stuff lol. That's cool that there's Flatland RPG though! must be interesting to play. and yes honestly Flatland really does feel like an original idea, can't think of much else like it that came before it. Props to Abbott for that!
jokes on you for the clickbait i already knew about flatland and its intrigue
no idea when i subscribed to you but i NEEDED this. i was OBSESSED with flatland when i was younger and this scratched the itch that ive had for years. thanks ^_^ (also ive never watched or indulged in any gravity falls concept so im here for flatland!!! rahh!!!)
@bugorgans hahah I’m glad the YT algorithm was able to point you here!
throwing my ass to undertale music in the flatlands video essay this was made especially for me thank u sm
@@leeanderrr pretty sure flatland attracts an undertale-adjacent crowd anyways 😂
I saw the film of Flatland a few years ago and have been low-level obsessed with the implications ever since.
The whackiest adaptation is Cixin Liu's "Three Body Problem" where the decay of the universe into lower dimensions is a direct consequence of the wars civilisations have been waging since the beginning of time due to the very realistic state of our universe, in which only the complete annihilation of any other civilisation you encounter is the rational choice. Civilizations use two dimensionalisation to destroy solar systems at an unstoppable and accelerating rate, causing some species to even adapt and reduce into the lower dimension voluntarily to survive the armageddon.
@@thickfingersw.1730 I’ve been meaning to read that series!
@@SpaceChannelDelta Oh no, sorry I spoiled it
@@thickfingersw.1730 no no, it’s ok! If anything now I’m more excited to read it
I read the chromatists in the movie being a metaphor for homosexuality: it would explain why Chromatistes has such a, well, stereotypical gay sounding voice, and Bush went very hard on the gay panic thing in 2004, even if he didn't literally round up and execute gay senators
one of my fav videos and the flatland sona>>>> AAAA so fun :))))
@@bnnymew thanks!
One thing I want to note about the ending of the flatland movie: The ending is not the first time we see the higher dimensional "sparkle"... when the woman commits suicide infront of A square we see it appear for a tiny moment. I think this is because both A square and the Line died accepting that higher dimensions exist. Even A sphere believes his dimension has to be the highest one, he is bigoted. While A Square and miss Line have realised that more exists and are open to this possibility. This is why they are saved by the sparkle.
@OnkelMachmuts interesting!
I was here for flatland too
Algorithm cooked. This video as amazing! I’ve heard about this far in the past but I don’t remember where from
I'm glad you liked it!
I, too, love crappy 2000's CGI. It is an underrated aesthetic whose full potential has yet to be realised.
Yeah.. I clicked for Life, the Universe and Everything.. Your mileage may vary though.
In Flatland the movie (crappy CGI) A Square got flipped when he returned to flatland after all the 3d stuff. He could've proven the existence of the third dimension using that!
FINALLY SOME FLATLAND ANALYSIS
":yeah, you clckled foc bill cypher didn't you?" Me, who actually read flatland and clicked for that: ):
flaland doesn't have charector i take offense, it has better charectors than most modern cinema and second i take offense that u dont seem to get something doesn't mean he had to dumb it down for u, wisdom is chasing u, ur running faster
I've been a fan of Flatland since the 80s, was less impressed with Sphereland (since I did pick up on Abbott's satire) and having Asimov write the forward of a more woman-friendly retelling of the original brings up its own issues. I loved both the book and cartoon about the Dot and the Line (my parents were both math graduate students). Eventually I found the Flatland movies on RUclips a while back. I watched the longer one again earlier tonight and this essay was suggested and I thoroughly enjoyed your analysis of the original as well as the exhaustive look at the myriad works inspired by the original. Kudos!
@@AngryAuditor thank you!
8:16 Issac Asimov is awful at writing characters so he gave me the impression that he's exactly the kind of person with poor media literacy lol
I love flatland I clicked for flatland I am very excited for flatland . I have a shirt with that stupid square on it
Something I find interesting regarding the unofficial sequels and fanworks, is that there's more of a focus on the math or the political aspects, but not on the religious ones you mentioned! It's understandable, as there's not many Mathematician Theologians these days, but I do feel that was an ingredient to making the original book so compelling! Like you said, there's so much "logical" explanations can illuminate regarding an experience or concept of a higher power. The shapes and the concept of grasping a third dimension is a good way to communicate that struggle, and I wish more works explored that! I think that's why I like the similar concepts explored with Bill Cipher, it's akin to someone seeing higher concepts no one else does and taking radical steps without the foresight of damage it might cause.
@krisstasko you get it !!!
Regarding your theory about the animals and their connection to irregular shapes in Sphereland, I was reminded of the eurocentric rhetoric regarding evolution used to justify racism against Africans. They "resembled" lesser evolved animals and neanderthals, so they posited they weren't as smart as the pretty "perfect" Europeans. I have no idea how intentional that is on the author's part, likely not given the criticism you give to his portrayal of race and women, but I thought it was an interesting connection nonetheless!
Just today I remembered the existence of flatland. I'm glad to see such a high quality video on the topic released so recently!
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it!