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totally get it - generally speaking they are not good - but in that pirate list they found a niche and filled it - i want them to be useful outside of that but man its tough

@@theoutpost8349 Yeah, I have much respect for you building the pirate list! It's not easy to do.

@@HouseMasterPoDing its a wild list and its fun - but you have to play 4D chess with it

the secret is that i used cheap craft paints - its cheap walmart paint lol - i used aplle barret parakeet - craft smart celery - and a generic white to do it - i do some blending and layer it on while the previous layer is still wet.

i do like flamer infantry bc they get to throw heat - but they dont help you defeat the bunkers and i have found that bc you paying such a high infantry and transport tax in bunkers shaving points her and there can help your lists and saving a point between MG teams and a flamer team can be big sometimes. especially when your main purpose isnt hunt vehicles and mechs but blow up the bunkers. but certainly if the points are there a flamer can be a good option.

@@theoutpost8349 Yeah, that's why I play more narrative based games rather than competitive, I get to use my infantry in a more realistic role that way.

@@HouseMasterPoDing dude thats awesome i love me some narative games and try to bring it into my competitive lists as well

thats good to point out - this is why its important to make sure those bunkers are oriented correctly -

paint infantry and making them look fun and interesting is one of my favorite things to do even if they kind of suck on the table top

yep - that is something you need to consider when it comes to those infantry - you can just throw them away you have to be super strategic on when you use them

also look at the 5D - it also has limited availability but is very nice

it would be the best infestation

thank you - ive had a lot of fun with the pirates bc of this - i forgot to mention in the video the atlas i replaced all the guns with black powder cannons. its pretty sweet.

thank you - im glad youre enjoying them and find them helpful

right - i always wanted to run a light mech list to see how it would do and when we did a casual event i was like why not - its a lot of fun but it is very fragile and you have to be cagey and pick your fights. i liked the challenge of playing it. i think in a really competitive scene it struggle - especially in missions like king of the hill - but over all it was a lot of fun to make and play and you can be successful. the biggest take away i found was you still have to have something that slaps in the light - hence the atlas and heavy lrm. if it was just ten skilled down light mechs it be no good.

@@theoutpost8349 I also love that you're leaning into the pirate philosophy and not taking just the fanciest toys in the toy box. Very Refreshing to see a different list like that.

yeah half the fun of list building is trying to play to the lore a little bit - BT is refreshing in that there are no faction special rules you have to memorize like in most war games, but at the same time its boring to pick and paint a new faction and just run the same mechs you always run. leaning into the lore and finding different mechs and trying to play to the faction lore is a fun challenge

yeah i may have miss spoken on it still move 4" is low and can really impede your ability to get anywhere adn into a good position

its life changing and actually looks really good in my opinion

not soon enough

thats a great idea - i go add that and start adding them to future videos

for real man - so many are disappointing

thanks buddy - its also alot more managable on my end - settling into a do a list break down then spend a few weeks highlighting the mechs in short videos.

thank you - ive met alot of new players over the last few months or people that struggle with the MUL and figuring out what to bring and how to use units and was wanting to provide a resource for them that they could digest easily - so glad to hear the feedback

an the anvil is so good to think about -

oh for sure with this guy - 18 points of rock em sockem robots if he connects one time he's earn his points back

go buy one for each of your armies now so good

i am ashamed that it took more than 24 hours for me to paint

i totally agree - you can play lore or themed lists and find so many hidden jewels and still be cometative - im in the process of making a Stiener Scout list and i must say i think you can run two atlas' and win plenty of games with the right support. plus playing to the lore is so enjoyable.

i would love it in plastic

thank you - the MUL is so big and its easy to just look at the unit you own or got in a lance pack - but there are some really good machines in there

@@theoutpost8349 I agree! That's why I like your channel. Keep up the good work.

agree - i think im gonna do the same - have two different op forces paint schemes - probably theese green camo schemes and a derest or sand when you mix them with parade colors its looks just fine and to me seems way more believable that tradition units would have camo and field colors.

yeah im enjoying making the generic stuff. although ill stick to the white themes for my WoB and Comstar

@@baxtercs It would be a fun video topic to cover what vehicles and infantry you feel best fit the WoB and later Comstar too.

I love the RAF/USAAF paint jobs!

@@TheSmileyGI thank you it was a shout out back to my historical gaming side hobby

Yeah, I'm planning on most of my vehicles being generic, but I've got a Striker Battallion planned that I want to paint up in their own thing. Kinda inspired by the Dragoons "Wolfsbane" in 3151 where it is formed out of using salvage from their campaign against the Davions. Mechs + Fast Tanks + Battle Armor.

oh for sure - i wish i could by a lance of four of them

I think these are two of the rare Mechs that feel like they perform about the same in Classic and AS. Both are great “midfielders” that can basically be assigned to any role you need (challenge an assault, hunt lights, take and hold objectives). Being not quite scary looking enough/stat-wise also really works to their advantage: they’ll punch above their weight so people often recognize how brutal they are too late.

@@TheSmileyGI for sure

I've noticed you seem to prefer IS tech. Are Clans less OP with objectives?

@@RecklessFables im mainly a IS player im drawn to their lore more - i've settled into a groove where i build a list and then do these deeper mech review dives from units in those lists - my don play clans and we are talking about taking one of his lists and breaking it down in the futre. but yes i play more IS and like them more.

thank you - im glad it was helpful

thank you

good catch - totally mis spoke yes as is the anvil and ostsol in this list thank you

@@theoutpost8349 No problem. I don't mean to be pedantic, as I truly enjoyed the video and hope that you make more. :)

@@HouseMasterPoDing no it was a good catch when i was doing my sub lists i had the size listed wrong and i was worried about my king of the hill list - its alot better with them being size 3

@@theoutpost8349 Also I like the Champion as a kind of 'diamond in the rough' pick, I had never really considered it before.

@@HouseMasterPoDing dude it is so good - and being able to sneak some flk into your list is the cherry on top - its very reasonable to field a 1N and 1N2 in a list and just be like - there are my two skirmishers.

i think i got over ambitious in this first one - when i did my outlines i thought it would be closer to an hour. this was definitely a learning episode.