Видео

With the neutral and grounds being separated in that panel, I wonder if that house has a main disconnect outside. If so, I believe that there should be no bonding screw in the panel shown since it would not be the first means of disconnect.

The secondary line needs a ptrap also, to keep air flow from blowing out of the line. Quite often water will blow out of secondary drain if the static pressure is too high.

What do use to service it and clean it

Looking to become a fire sprinkler inspector

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️😂

Thats my stomach, time for dinner

Nice serviced? But your not going to show how easy it is to do it yourself

Thanks for the visual documentation of roof depression. Now I know im not the only one lol

What technician do you call to service the hot water heater

What is the basis for your claim regarding Challenger panels? The only thing I can find are anecdotes, but nowhere have I been able to find lab-verified evidence that indicates there are any issues with them. Ask any electrician and they'll tell you they've seen problems with just about every panel out there... or rather, they've seen problems due to unscrupulous work by people who don't know what they're doing. Anyhow, if you can point to ***empirical*** evidence demonstrating a problem with Challenger panels or breakers (and by empirical I mean replicable testing that demonstrates a deficiency, not anecdotes from other RUclipsrs) I'd be very interested. I just came across this bit of "wisdom" when investigating something I didn't like (electrical work by a generator installer). Lots of folks hand-waving about Challenger, not a single one of them able to explain what's actually wrong. It's kinda like the whole Prius "spontaneous acceleration" thing, which never existed. These were just idiots mashing the accelerator. If they really had their foot fully depressed on the brake (which was the claim in the accident reports), the car would have stopped, even if the throttle was wide open as a Prius engine + motor cannot overpower the front disc brakes on that vehicle. I was prepared to replace every breaker in that box. Went to my local electrical supply shop, and Yoda behind the counter said "happy to sell you Type BR breakers I am, but wasting your money you will be.". So... I went looking for the source of this "knowledge" and all I see are people with no engineering credentials parroting anecdotes they heard elsewhere. Some insurance companies even got in on this parroting, but they don't seem to even have weak evidence (which would be statistical correlations between Challenger panels and fire claims) to support that. Anyhow, I'm still prepared to replace the breakers if there's a legit issue, but I still can't find reliable evidence to support these claims about Challenger.

I have a challenger panel and the approach that many inspectors have that they should be replaced is an over zealous approach. If you dig deep enough, the only real issue was with very specific GFCI breakers with yellow reset buttons. Normal breakers are likely just fine. There have been numerous acquisitions of the challenger line…now currently owned by Eaton. Eaton does make type accepted breakers including GFCI and AFCI.

That kind of wiring a panel looks like a fire about to happen not panels fault

Good explanation

What would cause an electric hot water heater about 8 months old to knock? Also our water is very soft not hard?

that water would smack unholy at 3am

Is that ductwork in the video leaking? Or just missing insulation costing extra energy?

This is such an old video but thank you for including the actual sound! I used this to confirm what it was I was hearing was the water heater and not some demon opossum trying to knock it's way in through the walls 😭. I was googling what it could be and so many people reply to knocking sound inquiries with "your hot water heater is gonna blow or leak monoxide and you're gonna d1e" like?? So this video confirmed to me that it is what I was hearing, it's okay for me to sleep (it's been 4 hours of me trying to figure it out starting at midnight) and I will wake up 😅. Now to get my grandmother to agree to call her landlord to fix this 🙃

There is no documented issue with Challenger panels.

Thanks, I know I have to unclog the primary line now.

Major no no. Seal it up ASAP

Can't always flush the sediment. Unfortunately time for a new water heater.

You said it right , you are not an electrician .

It's doesn't need to be cleared by a tech, Do it yourself. What a sorry ass video..

Well this explains the burn on reentry.

Individual knockouts for individual wires? You crazy

Places like Home Depot seem to be famous for selling say a GE panel that comes with a selection of breakers. Go further down the aisle to get more breakers and they don't have any of that brand so you are stuck with a mix of breakers to finish the job that you started last week. OK, you should have started the job with a Homeline panel.... but they were out of them on your first trip. Since the pandemic, it's almost impossible to get exactly what you want every time.

ccccccccccc

No comments on the tandem breakers? Usually those aren't ideal and with the number of tandem breakers in the box, a new panel would probably be a good idea

The gas pressure at the burner is too high!!

No recall on Challenger panel, for awhile you couldn't find breakers until Cutler Hammer start to make one.

What the hell is up with that pressure relief valve extension pipe?

You are slightly off with your explanation. It's not the sediment floating around banging on the walls but the popping of bubbles from the water that is absorbed in the sediment as it heats up. The sediment that this happens to is caked on to the heating element (electric) or on heat transfer plate (gas). This is why flushing a tank won't always get rid of the sound in a gas unit and almost never works on an electric unit .

Sooo, what was the problem?

Thank y’all

I didn't realize challenger panels were problematic. To those unaware. FPE, followed by Zinsco , sometimes rebranded as GTE/Sylvania, are well know for breakers failure to trip when needed. As for the Federal Pacific Electric "stab loc" panels, i can contest how dangerous they can be. About 10 years ago I suffered serious burns requiring medical attention, when I was unplugging an arc welder from a 240 volt, 50 amp outlet in a friend's garage, protected by a FPE panel. Part of the outlet had broken away, allowing for the lugs to come loose and touch the metal box and each other. Neither the 2 pole breaker for the welder nor the main breakers tripped. I am literally crawling on my knees to get out of the garage, with the panel on fire and molten metal flying everywhere. Eventually the cutout on the pole transformer blew and cut power.

Mr Inspector, not heavy stuff and the truss is 8" or bigger beams so no safety issue with xmas stuff vs plates dishes records furniture material beams. A CRACK OF sheetrock is not big deal maybe (add up the weight) I bet less than 400 pounds

HAPPY HALLOWEEN

and another illegal gas connection. water heaters are not a basic homeowner install. and that knocking is normal if it's a Rheem.

Cuttler hammer and Eton breaker are identified on the package as a replacement for challenger, of course he was correct about the square d

Good video i like your ideas how are you #electricalwale

Thank you so much for this video! I have this exact problem and because of the way my house is set up it sounds like someone is outside scratching/banging on the walls - very scary! Now I know that it's the heater I'll email my landlord and get it fixed. Such a relief that I'm not about to get murdered 👍👍

My brand new tank does this.

This is the exactly sound I have right next to my bedroom

Useless video. We have to call for your service. You wasted my 1 min. I want you to give me back my minute. LOL

why would a house need two 50 gallon water heaters? no wonder they they have plumbing problems, lol. i'm not an inspector, but here in ohio i've never even heard of water heaters in the attic. i'd think the weight would be pretty significant. overall, though, i don't see any deal-breakers there.

Plummer drained my 2 water heaters and it is still knocking what is next?????????????

Wow people are lazy!!

So your solution was to "get it serviced", hmm so we are back to square one. Lol

Youre a good man Marcus!

90% of de properties have sloping or bowing.