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Your remark makes it obvious. Christianity is not a religion, it is a fellowship of believers that a real historical person actually being God and man truly lived two millennia ago, was the promised saviour of humankind from perpetual alienation from their creator. He did so through suffering torture and death although utterly sinless reconciling murderer and rapist and tyrant and thief and slave owner and all other perpetrators and victims by sending the Holy Spirit enabling what was unthinkable and impossible before. What is more, it is both fundamentally individual and institutional and all individuals and the institution remain sinful because the transformation process is not magic and it is far from complete.

all institutions and all human hierarchies have garments signifying office, Christians are humans and the fellowship of believers is a human institution

It in cycle of readings it is closer to the Mass of St Paul VI. It's closest to the Sarum Mass as it was received in the Church of England.

Liturgy is not opera, it does not exist to entertain and older is never necessarily better. Have some humility and accept the Ordo Lectionum Missae as prescribed. Be grateful that you live at a time when all Christians have in their hands the most up-to-date and accurate translations of Sacred Scripture in their native language ever having existed and these are incorporated in every daily celebration of the Eucharist universally. We are living in the now, yesterday is past and tomorrow has not yet come. Human emotions are not necessarily of great importance and quite dependent on state of health, digestion and the weather. Listen to the doctors of the church if you want to benefit from true Christian tradition. Jesus never spoke a word of Latin in his life; it was a pagan language of the Roman Empire and the unity of common language was imperial, not godly.

It's an Anglican hymn: "Now the green blade riseth": Now the green blade riseth from the buried grain, Wheat that in the dark earth many years has lain; Love lives again, that with the dead has been: Love is come again, like wheat that springeth green. In the grave they laid Him, Love that we had slain, Thinking then that never He would wake again. Laid in the earth like wheat that sleeps unseen: Love is come again like wheat that springeth green. Forth He came at Easter, like the risen grain, He that for three days in the grave had lain; Quick from the dead, my risen Lord is seen: Love is come again like wheat that springeth green. When our hearts are wintry, grieving or in pain, Thy touch can call us back to life again. Fields of our hearts, that dead and bare have been: Love is come again like wheat that springeth green. (JMC Crum 1928, to a French carol tune) A rather lovely Easter hymn with echoes of the folk song John Barleycorn! I sang it at the wedding of a friend who was marrying again after his first wife had died. I had absolutely no idea at the time that Crum also remarried after his first wife died, and I wonder if he wrote this hymn/poem in thanks for finding love again after his tragic loss.

Everyone’s probably thinking of the French carol: Noël nouvelet, Noël chantons icy; Dévotes gens, rendons à Dieu mercy; Chantons Noël pour le roy nouvelet, Noël nouvelet, Noël chantons icy!

No irony there, England deserves so much better than what is happening right now after all the great Saints it gave us.

@@andy41417 “Looked upon with suspicion?” Loathed more like. That particular English cardinal in Rome seems determined to exterminate it.

rather, pray they are exorcised from the evil spirits of division and religiosity - how the devil does love self-righteous indignation.

@@Pacdoc-Oz Which, by your self-righteous remark you are indulging in. It must be lonely for you up there on mount Olympus, looking down on everyone else.

Yes indeed! He’s a Bishop in the Catholic Ordinariate.

@@johnlarkin3821 I thought that, but maybe because he’s the Bishop Ordinary of the Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham and a ‘Right Reverend’ (are all bishops ‘right reverend?’) he has the privilege of being addressed as ‘your grace?’ I think it’s worth investigating before we start correcting people, no? Just a thought.

Ok keep your wig on!

Where are you getting your information from? The ordinariates have always been open to converts from before they were established. I was received from Anglicanism in 2004, and when the Ordinariate was established I joined it as someone who was already Catholic. Also, the UK Ordinariate is not “confined to England alone”. It covers the entire territory of the Catholic Bishops Conference of England and Wales and also includes Scotland. If you’d like to join, please contact the chancery.

@@christophermahon5490 That's a relief, at least. Even so, the points you mention have hardly been publicised, to put it no more strongly.

Both of those churches have ordained female clergy and are pro-lgbt. They need to submit to the Bible first before all things. The Catholic Church is the original church. Henry VIII wanted an excuse to divorce women at his choosing because he wanted sons. And John Wesley wanted to streamline Anglicanism further. But already both churches have clergy with Catholic vestments, pray to the saints and some even do the rosary. Why not just become fully Catholic if they are already doing all the things that make Catholics: Catholics except submitting to the Pope. Obedience is hard, but obstinacy is a form of pride and pride is the root of all sins

Absolutely wrong. There can be no unity without the principle of unity established by Jesus Christ in Peter and his successors. That is the way Jesus established things and trying to change it or have unity a different way is to tell Jesus that his way, that he established and created, is wrong. It's prideful and foolish!

@@matthewoburke7202 no, wrong, sorry. Not being in union with Romish church doesnt mean going against what Jesus said. The prophecy to Peter means the Church will be estabilished upon him, not that everybody has to be in union with his succesors in Rome specifically. Unity is in Full Communions between church bodies not in submitting to Rome

@@federativemapping1974 "The Lord says to Peter, ‘I say unto thee’, says he, ‘that thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatsoever you shall bind on earth shall be bound also in heaven,and whatsoever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed also in heaven’. And again to the same after his resurrection he says ‘Feed my sheep’. Upon that one he builds his Church, and he commits to him his sheep to feed. And though to all the apostles after his resurrection he gives an equal power and says, ‘As the Father sent me, even so send I you; receive the Holy Ghost: whose sins ye remit, they are remitted to them: whose ye retain, shall be retained’, yet in order that he might make clear the unity, he founded one chair; by his authority he has placed the source of the same unity as beginning from one. Certainly the other apostles were what Peter was, endowed with equal fellowship both of honor and of power, but a beginning is made from unity, and primacy is given to Peter, that one Church of Christ and one chair may be shown: and they are all shepherds and one flock is exhibited, which is fed by all the apostles with unanimous consent, that one Church of Christ may be shown. This one Church, also, the Holy Ghost in the person of the Lord describes in the Song of Songs and says: ‘My dove, my spotless one, is but one; she is the only one of her mother, elect of her that bare her.’ He who does not hold this unity of the Church, does he think that he holds the faith? He who opposes and resists the Church, he who deserts the chair of Peter on whom the Church is founded, does he trust himself to be in the Church?" -Cyprian "After such things as these, moreover, they still dare - a false bishop having been appointed for them by, heretics - to set sail and to bear letters from schismatic and profane persons to the throne of Peter, and to the chief Church whence priestly unity takes its source; and not to consider that these were the Romans whose faith was praised in the preaching of the apostle, to whom faithlessness could have no access. But what was the reason for their coming and announcing the making of the pseudo-bishop in opposition to the bishops?" -Cyprian Yes it does mean going against what Jesus said. The successor of Peter in his primacy is the Roman bishop "Since, however, it would be very tedious in such a volume as this, to reckon the successions of all of the Churches, we do put to confusion all those who, in whatever manner, whether by an evil self-pleasing, by vainglory, or by blindness and perverse opinion, assemble in unauthorized meetings; we do this I say, by indicating the tradition derived from the Apostles, of the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church, founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul; as also by pointing out the faith preached to men, which comes down to our time by means of the succession of bishops. For it is a matter of necessity that every Church should agree with this Church, on account of its preeminent authority. The blessed apostles, then, having founded and built up the Church, committed into the hands of Linus the office of the episcopate. Of this Linus, Paul makes mention in the Epistles to Timothy. To him succeeded Anacletus; and after him, in the third place from the apostles, Clement was allotted the bishopric… Soter having succeeded Anicetus, Eleutherius does now, in the twelfth place from the apostles, hold the inheritance of the episcopate. In this order, and by this succession, the ecclesiastical tradition from the apostles, and the preaching of the truth, have come down to us. And this is most abundant proof that there is one and the same vivifying faith, which has been preserved in the Church from the apostles until now, and handed down in truth." -Irenaeus

Praying and hoping,God bless!

Welcome Home. It has been painful since you left. One stubborn Pope and strong King can do a lot of damage.

One day most masses will be celebrated this good I hope. Pope Benedict was a true gem for the church.

That green book is the New English Hymnal!

@@christophermahon5490 Thank you! I added it to my wishlist. I love hymns and hope to learn to sing them someday. "Just as I am, without one plea" is my favourite so far.

Yes, I think that's what Msgr Newton means. A piety nourished on Matins and Evensong would be close in spirit to Catholic monastic prayer. Also, the hymnody and sacred music and the close reading of the Bible (akin to monastic Lectio Divina). An Anglo-Catholic Anglican nourished by the BCP and the Bible who previously might have felt defensive about the Catholicity of the C of E would be able in a sense to relax and duly appreciate the biblical and liturgical and musical heritage of the Anglican tradition. It is, after all, largely of Catholic monastic derivation; and it is close in spirit to what the original Liturgical Movement was seeking (before it was so terribly derailed and twisted in the Sixties). Maybe those who enter the Catholic Church from the Anglican tradition can help us recover something of that vision, in the way that figures like the Anglo-Papalist Dom Gregory Dix expressed it. An Anglican who becomes Catholic doesn't have anything to prove anymore. Also, the Anglican ministry at its best has a fine pastoral spirit, such as R.C. Moberley's "Ministerial Priesthood" and Michael Ramsey's "The Christian Priest Today." The old-style evangelical side of Anglicanism has a strong emphasis on the Precious Blood of Christ as the sole grounds of our justification, and on Christ's ongoing High Priestly intercession (cf Heb 7.25). These emphases are much welcome in the Catholic Church and, in fact, need to be strengthened if we are to deal with the challenge of both Protestantism and secularism. It's entirely fitting that Westminster Cathedral is dedicated to the Precious Blood. Fr Frederick Faber wrote much about the Precious Blood, especially "All for Jesus" and "The Precious Blood." A Catholic should welcome something as beautiful as the Prayer of Humble Access before Communion: "We do not presume to come to this thy Table, O merciful Lord, trusting in our own righteousness, but in thy manifold and great mercies. We are not worthy so much as to gather up the crumbs under thy Table. But thou art the same Lord, whose property is always to have mercy: Grant us therefore, gracious Lord, so to eat the flesh of thy dear Son Jesus Christ, and to drink his blood, that our sinful bodies may be made clean by his body, and our souls washed through his most precious blood, and that we may evermore dwell in him, and he in us. Amen."

Haha Thanks, Cathy!

Better still make the transition to the Holy Orthodox Church. ☦☦☦

Congratulations, @robertmcbride1859 , and welcome! It's great to have you join us!

@@marcokite Jesus founded one Church, known today as the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church spoken of in the Creeds. It is the genuine orthodox Church.

@@marcokite Much as we love nd respect our Apostolic Brothers and Sisters Orthodoxy devolves into nationalistic gatherings without a Supreme Pontiff in the shoes of the fisherman.

@robertmcbride1859 Welcome home

No, one does not have to be formerly Anglican to join the ordinariate. If the ordinariate has brought you closer to the faith in some way, you can apply to join by writing to the chancery. Catholic priests would have to change their incardination, which is a more complicated matter and they'd have to seek expert/authoritative advice. Every priest in the ordinariate is bound to celibacy were he to become a widower. And while the ordinariate has the means to petition the Holy See on a case-by-case basis for the ordination of a married man, this is almost never done. The practice is to allow those married Anglican priests coming in with their congregations to become Catholic priests, but to otherwise encourage celibate vocations from within.