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All very well while you are OUTSIDE the tent! But how the hell do you get in and then repeatedly seal it and unseal it from inside? Not to mention that in repeated use, that mesh is going to snag and tear. So yes, a quick and cheap fix for inside your home, but out in the real World, it won't last 5 minutes.

Anyone know if this problem have been fixed in the newer Osmo version? I mean if they changed the way the rainfly is attached to the poles? Or do you know if this problem is also on the dagger?

Thanks for letting us know about your experience! I've noted this and will be avoiding. Thanks 😊

I'm 59, had loads of tents and used them in Scotland, USA, Baffin Island, French/Spanish Pyrenees. Vaude are superb, Vango are excellent, Big Agnes 2p seedhouse was interesting, but I'll only buy Hilleberg now. Not the lightest, but I can sleep at night, and never worry about failure.

Wow. Did you attach the guy lines? (in this case the loop at the center of that side of the fly).

my first (and only and hopefully never again) experience with snow blindness was terrifying and lasted three days don't let it happen to you :)

Hi man ,ok not fun what happened,but the first claim is for you ,the positioning of the tent is totally wrong ,big ventilation face to the wind .and seems the wind is far more 20 m/ hour .

You could used small magnets

I wish you had added at the end how Nemo Customer Service addressed your problems. Did you get a refund or new replacement tent? Was dealing with Nemo non stressful? Thanks for this review. Sorry your trip was ruined.

I agree that this tent is not suitable for windy conditions. There is a Hilleberg Freestanding Dome Tent with independent 3 poles that I personally think is suitable for these weather situations.

Very nice video

It’s the one issue I have with the Nemo tents is you can’t batten down the hatches so to speak. I get the venting or whatever the reason you can’t pull down the fly. I have the Dagger and same big gap in the fly going almost halfway up the side. To those say to put the head end into the wind. I’ve fallen asleep with no wind and woken up at one in the morning with crazy wind so sometimes you don’t even know which way the wind is going to come from. I’m a huge Nemo fan but was disappointed when I set my new Dagger up and couldn’t pull down the fly. Thinking of getting a Big Agnes for my next tent for this one sole reason.

Appreciate your thoughts and reflection!

I searched for this. Thanks for posting brother

I picked up a few pointers, thanks. Recently bought Jublo Montebianco II high Mountain, I have plans for the Alps this year, maybe.

Great video. Well delivered. I'm trying to settle on a clothing system for multi day long distance mountain walking. Atm I use the traditional layering system- base, fleece, windshirt, synthetic puffy and gortex shell. Of course, in a down pour you eventually wet out....and stay wet. Could a pile / pertex system work? Eg buffalo? Too hot for summer though? Is paramo better for all season walking?Isn't pertex easily ripped and burnt? Could a ventile / pile combination be more durable? I don't have the budget to experiment. I need to try to pay once and cry once. What a rabbit hole!!! :)

I'll stick with my Fjallaven abisko lite 1. It never lets me down.

Well explained review of the plie and Pertex system. I've tried some of the lighter types, such as Rab's Vapour-rise and Mountain Equipment's Kinesis and a couple of Polartec Alpha pieces and found them all just too hot to walk in even at freezing temperatures. I found myself with the zips open and sleeves rolled up whilst moving and only needed to batten down the hatches when stopped or at low activity levels. I decided to give Paramo's system another chance (after several years of keeping it in storage and have a couple of newer, better cut items now). I've found this works much better for me whilst active and is just warm enough for short stops. I'm liking the Velez jacket, with the new mesh liner, which works well over a woolmesh base layer. It, like my older Velez Adventure Light smock, isn't warm enough at low activity levels or when stopped for more than a few minutes at freezing temperatures over just a light baselayer so my rather old Rab Xenon has found a new lease of life as an over layer. Paramo was developed originally from pile-lined prototypes and it has similarities in how it works but, despite a lot of people dismissing it as too hot I don't agree. I think many people are using conventional layers under system-type clothing that's designed not to need them, or at least that's what I've observed.

Excellent video !

it was actually useful, thanks for uploading this piece! 🙏

I used the Montane yesterday at just below freezing. I’m in my sixties and was using it for a local walk and some woodland photography. Just had a base merino underneath. I agree for my relatively low rate of activity I definitely need an extra layer underneath or outer when I stop. Excellent review, thanks.

Would you recommend this tent a year on?

Buffalo still the best in my opinion, must have for soldiers and serious outdoor enthusiasts.

It's obviously alot windier than your stating as well!!!

I've had this tent for over a year and been in storms,heavy winds etc and never had any issues whatsoever like you have you've clearly not set the tent up correctly!!! I also tend to agree with the many people on here with brilliant reviews of the tent !!!

In my experience attaching the velcro strips is what causes this. If they are not attached, the rainfly material is able to move over the poles and “give” allowing movement in the tent to be back and forth always returning to and maintaining it’s overall shape and protection. Also important to recognize it as a lightweight backpacking tent and not a mountaineering tent. Each has purpose but not interchangeable.

Great idea. Do you have any ideas for doing the opposite - making a mesh inner warmer in cold conditions? Be interested to see a video on this.

I don’t wish to cause any trouble, but the windspeed looks to be far greater than the 20mph you claim it was - I checked it up on the Beaufort scale - and you don’t appear to have erected the tent as per the instructions either, you put it up the wrong way round, the front of the tent is supposed to face into the wind, and not the back with the cut-away as you have, so of course it all blew down, because the wind was being funnelled into the tent with no way of escaping, which was only compounded because you don’t appear to have staked the tent out properly, if at all - I’ve watched every RUclips video regarding this tent, and everyone else is very happy with it, and you are the only one who has had a bad experience with it - So I found the video actually very useful, and I still plan on buying it, thank you.

Nemo does state this is a back8ng packing tent and not a mountain tent , I had a similar experience with the another well know American brand these tents are designed for thru hikers , I do understand as I was upset when I did the same .

Cheers for the heads up, I was just about yo buy one of these too! 😬😬👍

The inner pitch first has always put me off this tent. Surprised you can’t get some webbing with grommets in to set the poles. I think could potentially work better than with a ground sheet.

Sorry for your tent. But thanks for sharing the experience.

We're looking to do this to our family tent that doesn't have a fly mesh on any doors (bit of an oversight on our part when buying). Glad to see it worked for you, although if you stick it on the outside, how can you seal it from the inside? Did you find that an issue? Thanks for the vid :)

Excellent review I’m an Englishman moved to scotland as I’m mad about wild camping, slept about 500 meters up a mountain at Glen Coe two nights ago and froze I just bought the -18 version of this it should arrive tonight then off to Isle of Skye to test run it. Good video mate actually might have to sub I’ll checkout your other vids

Using a lightweight tent for a windy open space in the mountains... Seems as well thought out as your messy, not trimmed garden.

Can't decide between the Lanshan 2 Pro 3 season or 4 season, might buy the 4 season then perform this mod on it.

Good review. I like the Montane smock but can’t seem to get it anywhere as it’s always sold out,so it must be good ! Regards.

I wear the Extreme next to skin while walking in anything less than zero or "feels like" with wind. That is when it works. Despite it absolutely hammering down, you don't feel wet - even though you are. weird. Get a Special 6, they are nice but the Extreme is better value.

I can't subscribe yet because you have 69 (nice 😉) subscribers. I'll check back later.

A tent you must turn when wind direction changes :) Thats fun.

Good hack! I actually paid a tent fix guy to add a mash door and it cost loads!

I have Questar (0 degrees comfort) I like a lot of moments here,Water repellent coating works, hydrophobic down probably also not bad (i don't know what will be in 5 or 10 years with properties of down ).Synergy system works good - cool .But i have to say than quality of down is Not the best for this price.Maybe because it is Duck down, maybe because a bit to much feather but I noticed that the scores of fill power went down, a dead zone has formed in the chest area - down distribution is not very even and this cold zone increases with the time (not long time) . My next bag will be with 800 FP Goose down

What down jacket was it that you put on at the end? Thanks

Rogen hilleberg is the way too go

Hey, how are you, please could you tell me if this bag rate -6C is thruth or may be is not ass they put on it. I am trying to buy one of this but I need to use it on -4 to -6C temperatures and I don’t know if purchase it or another bag. Thank you so much.

Good to know 👍 my recent purchase of an F2 French Army tent to my surprise came without a mossy inner door net so looking for a simple hack like this.

The first version of this tent was great. I went to a school we were trained in outdoor activities and guiding. Our instructor would by now equipment every couple years and said that the dragon was his favorite tent in the field. However it was the first version, so this is sad to see.

Hi, thanks for this review I was going to buy the one man tent for Bikepacking across Australia because it was light weight now of course I will be looking for a different tent cheers 👍

I tested the Nemo Dragonly (Bikepack 2P) in similar conditions. But I had a completely different experience, the tent held up perfect through a very windy night. One tip: If possible put the head-end not in the wind direction, than the wind can't get into the tent. I very stormy conditions guy out the middle of the head-end as well. Edit: Here is a video of it: ruclips.net/video/NnMZ52tKBIs/видео.html

Shame that happened, you could get it repaired at Scottish mountain gear probably wouldn’t be too expensive and you can send the bill to nemo