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You make some very good points. Yet since you uploaded this video the MSCI World Index made a total return of 94,52%, so almost doubled in value. So i am going to stay invested in the stock market.

bs, the stock market is a business and anyone who is investing in the stock market should know that to buy a stock another investor or institute needs to sell the stock. investing in a stock means that you think that stock has future potential or is 'undervalued', so technically everyone is investing with a hypothetical mindset- that is why it is not a ponzi scheme because it is meant to be hypothetical There are many reasons why a stock might move up or down, theres tons of things that are happening not just with investors buying and selling but with options, insider, and selling puts calls deltas gamma squeezes ecetera. and if I am being honest some people make money while some lose money, but different buyers and sellers have different ideas so just adding all the sums isn't accurate. I'm more surprised how many people don't know these basic facts in this youtube video and think this is some dark web information, every single investor should know how markets move atleast!

This might be the best video on RUclips

It’s a sliding scale. Bernie Madoff is 100% Ponzi because there is no underlying asset all! Bitcoin and gold has very low intrinsic value of the underlying asset compared to price. Tesla a bit better but also low intrinsic value. Now think of a company with a 10x price multiple. Not really Ponzi. The asset here is clear, profits. Yes you don’t get voting rights or the profits but it has value and liquidity which is regulated by the market operator. So you can buy and sell any time. Furthermore companies are required to produce cashflow statements which you can analyse to determine if the reinvest their profits well. If they can’t then yes they should issue a dividend otherwise you should avoid this stock due to its low intrinsic value.

what is this annoying background music about? I wanted to like your video and subscribe your channel but now I wouldn't

Stupid take

There are so many fallacies and half truths in this short it is hilarious Just because a merket is larger than the total fiat currency in circulation does not mean it is a Ponzi scheme. By the same logic the average home in the US could not be worth more than $10000, since there are 145 million of them and only $1-$2 T of money in circulation.

Putting that aside, market manipulation to help profit the real shareholders while investing heavily on marketing that you can do It, they make up numbers on the board without a backend to check why so to trick the small investors to be feeding them the reap value which is money

An additional aspect to me is the fact that people are investing directly or indirectly to support some of the most pernicious companies in the world like war companies (lookheed martin…), big pharma, banking cartel… etc. Just because is cute and “financially responsible” to invest in your retirement.. you are a part of the whole mess this society is.

This video appeals to the type of people who believes the government expands the money supply by actually and literally printing more paper currency.

Ive been saying this all my life.

What about house prices? Only a small fraction of houses are bought and sold at any one time. If every house in the country was for sale house prices would also fall. I think the same principle applies to stocks. The true value of something is what people are prepared to pay at any given time.

Who said that companies don’t pay dividends to shareholders anymore? This is simply untrue 😅

Owning a share means you own a small percentage of a company, which is why it’s more complex than it seems. When a company is successful, many people want to own a part of it. If the stock price drops, it’s like the company is on “sale.” But if the stock ever hits zero, it’s as if the company is being given away to anyone who wants to own it-though this won’t happen as long as the company is doing well. In a way, it's like an auction where the highest bidder wins the right to own more of the company. The value of a single share might be tiny, like owning 0.000000001% of the company. It only becomes valuable when you own many shares. Since so many people want to own the company, and you need more shares to have a significant stake, the overall value of the shares increases.

Yes. The fact that the people are called investors and not gamblers is crazy. The stock purchase does not lead to any investment into the company and vice versa. Except during IPOs. I try to explain this to people but it's a very hard thing to explain. Great video.

Great stuff! 👍

Everything is a Ponzi/pyramid scheme. We're a hierarchical species so by definition everything we do is a pyramid scheme. People just get all butt hurt when it's obvious and labeled as such. Map out the structure of the company you work for...what shape would you define it as LoL. Why do you think Madoff didn't give a ****. I made a pyramid scheme off of a pyramid scheme...yeah sure whatever send me to jail. I'll be the token bad guy so business can continue as usual.

Tesla makes a lot of money now.

Thanks! Nice book. Great thoughts on the fake system we live in.

I would love to debate with you. Your claims are preposterous and dangerous.

Thank you. So what are your thoughts knowledge about 401k and Roth IRA? I am older and do not know much but I started Robinhood brokerage acct and used $1k to buy several itty bits of stocks then zi thought often… what I am buying ex ndvia share @$110… goes up goes down… but it’s is in fact not money it feels like gambling chips

I figured this out by being in crypto first. It’s very similar.

This is why you buy Bitcoin. It can be manipulated but never controlled. And there is a finite supply of 21 million.

Anybody who really understands the stock market will see how baseless this video is. To say the value of a stock is imaginary is absolutely preposterous. Please everybody don’t listen to this video. If you disagree with me let’s have conversation.

How come this isn't viral!!

wrong. with enough shares you control the company. Then you can do as you wish with profits. This is what gives stocks their value

So true. Fk Nvidia & Jensen

The reason that the stock market is often not a Ponzi scheme is because central bankers, particularly the Fed, regularly create money out of nothing which they then dump into the stock market. In fact, you can go to lower Manhattan and see the main place that this happens. It is at the headquarters of the NY Fed.

the beef starts from 3:50..the more ur repeat the lie...the more people will believe it... Remind me plz: who said it?😊

5:55 Fiat currencies are totally not ponzi schemes. Lol. Lmao.

5:55 Fiat currencies are totally not a ponzo scheme. Lol. Lmao.

I remember when my stockes were stolen, the stock went Way Up and I thought I made money. When I checked my account, they stole ALL but one share, IT'S CALLED A REVERSE SPLIT. They steal your shares and leave you one or two, then push the price up dramatically in your face...Just another way to rig the game "legally".

Is forex a scam? And what more markets are a scam taking out the stock market.

I work at a traditional 'fundamental analysis' investment firm and if I explained this to anyone I work with I would be fired on the spot.

I think about this idea a lot. But it seem not very well known common sense among general public. This video has only 100k view proves that.

OP is going to lose his shit when he learns about fractional bank and how one person's asset is another person's debt.😅

Does this pertain to the Futures markets? A speculator can buy or sell a standardized contract

The prices of the major indexes goes up because the value of the dollar goes down.

The whole argument is based on tangible money. I have not used that for years. So I am fine having my money in fictional stocks that raise my fictional cash by over 10% a year and let me buy real food. Only companies that have no valid reinvestment pay dividends. And I even prefer stock buybacks. But if they have a good investment, like Google mostly does, I am very fine if they reinvest my share of their gains. It might be though, that the whole system of economic growth is a huge Ponzi scheme, but the stock market would do well even without growth. Stocks would have the same price and just pay some dividend because there is no other option to invest.

Wow. There are so many things wrong about what's said in this video 😅 I don't have the time to address everything - maybe just two things: 1) there are still stocks that pay dividends. It's a decision of the company whether to pay out or reinvest their profits. Typically (and logically) companies that don't pay dividends and reinvest grow faster. 2) where tf did you pick up the idea that the money in circulation must match the value of all assets in a country? That's wrong, even if we disregard the stock market.

I’m done after I get green lol

I trade almost every single day and sadly this is 100% true. The valuation of a Stock is even questionable when it first becomes tradable. Think about it, they are saying you own a share of a company valued at set price. How then does it gain in value, sometimes rapidly? It is a tough game that is designed to steal from those looking to get rich, if you're lucky you can learn how to play like the thieves. I currently am a day trader, and I enjoy it for the most part, but the truth is we are simply exchanging money at the whims of people in the know or who are in control. If you invest make it a dividend stock, if you trade trade like a bank or a big institution. It is the best way to make money. Stocks will have a build up of shares purchased without the price moving much before a big news catalyst drops and magically they run to the moon. This is part of the process, say I know XYZ has been accumulating for a week and I hear they are about to drop positive news I am buying and waiting.

While cryptos and some hype stocks behave like Ponzi schemes this is not true of the general stock market. You apparently haven't heard of dividends. And yes many companies don't pay dividends because they're reinvesting their profits so they make bigger profits in the future so they can pay larger dividends in the future instead of small dividends in the present. Also some companies that are in trouble may decide to suspend their dividend for a time.

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It is nothing but legalized theft. Many work hard to keep society running. Then you have these lazy criminals, who nothing but steal other people's money through the stock market.

1:49 whether the company loses of gains money is relevant to the stock price. When you list tesla motors as a money burning company that’s stock continues rising. This can be explained by the fact that a companies stock can rise on speculation. An example of this are all of the “crazy” valuations that AI stocks currently have despite posting very little of no profit.

Is the housing market also a bubble. When you say they keep everything you talk like every dollar they make goes to a big pile of cash. They still invest in R&D and other areas required to boost the underlying value of the business which increases the stock.

Who is here in 2024? 😂 only people who know this are the ones making real money in the stock market. As I put it, it is wild wild west.

If you invested and you didn't know about any of these facts you deserve to lose all your money

so what do we do then