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Tobias Forge of Ghost on Satan, Religion, and Belief (Interviews).
There seems to be some debate as to what Tobias personally believes, so I pulled from a bunch of different interviews where he talks about his own personal relationship with "Satan," his views on organized religion, and belief.
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Paradise Lost Stage One - Denial (Without Commentary)
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There are two paths you can take in this level and I show the second one at the end.
So many comments like “i’m a christian and I love Ghost!” but where’s the comments “I’m a satanist and I hate those f*cking posers!”
I like your videos.
Jesus died for all of us to go to heaven. Jesus went to hell buddy he is king of peace. A gift freely given to us we choose to not to receive it. You need Jesus buddy. We have a hard time to do good is because people don’t follow Jesus and follow his teachings about all the answer you are seeking. 10 commandments are the same as Jesus teachings. Being enslaved to sin is why it’s sad because it causes diseases, mental control is devils confusion. You have demons talking through you buddy. You are in bondage I pray for you your music is great. God is good Satan is enslavement. He is playing with your brain. Bible says we are all evil and we worship Satan we will see bad as good and good as bad. It’s sad 😔 Jesus is not religion. Jesus followers can’t convince anyone not for us too.
I'm very much a non demanational Christian. I don't like organized religion. I don't need someone who doesn't even me or my story telling me how to live. The Bible tells me how to live. Period. Having said that I very, very much enjoy Ghost. I think their music is fantastic. At the end of the day you can go enjoy a Ghost concert or binge Ghost videos and it's going to be okay. God knows what is in your heart. Live the best life you can, ask forgiveness for your sins, and enjoy some great music by Ghost.
Then you're a hypocrite..
@@airforce262able not in the least.
As someone who was once a Christian minister, who ran a Christian youth center, and preached at Churches, and is now embracing Satanism. I can tell you the biblical version of Satan that everyone fears does not exist, not even in the bible. The claims of the devil in the bible are so blown out of proportion to terrify people. But it was "God" that allowed his prophets to call down fire from heaven to burn up his enemies and kill the firstborn sons of an entire nation out of favor for one religion. Adam and Eve were tempted by a serpent; it never says "The Devil." But if it is, he only offered them the knowledge God kept from them. And in true God fashion, he put it right in front of them, told them how great it was, and then said, "Don't touch it!" Hell becomes a concept in the New Testament but is very vague. Jesus said he would prune off the branches that did not bear fruit and cast them into the fire. That was taken as belive in Jesus or else. But consider all of the religions that existed before Christianity and how long it took for Christianity to spread. Does that mean the millions of people who did not hear the message post Jesus were sent to hell by default? Look at the modern, pop culture-infused Church. It is one giant confession that nothing they have done before works. They are basically a Tony Robbins conference with some Jesus sprinkled in, so they don't feel guilty about seeking what they want. Which is material success companionship. And a moral high ground so they can feel better about everything they feel obligated to feel guilty about.
If you said you were as claimed a Christian minister then you would know God knew from beginning to end. By you saying there were pass lives. Before God himself is just complete foolishness. The Old Testament does not lie.
@airforce262able I said I was. I'm not anymore. I have not identified as a Christian in a long time. I ran a Christian youth center that I took over after the original owners moved, and the guy who was supposed to run it had a breakdown. Other than that, I preached at a few youth outreaches, church services, and the county jail.
It’s so fascinating how people interpret his views as actually believing and worshipping “the devil”. Our society’s incapability to have nuanced or slightly abstract discussion is um…interesting lol.
Tobias rocking Faith No More shirt!! LETS GO🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
He is against religion, but it is always the Christian one. They never attack Judaism. It is easy to get hold of young people with an inverted cross, but these alleged artists never piss on a synagogue. Isn't it strange? This attack on Christianity always and exclusively comes from the usual circles with Jewish Masonic paraphernalia. Dear Tobias, piss on a mosque and on a synagogue, then you will be more credible. If you are for freedom of thought you do not do propaganda and proselytism on kids, because you are plagiarizing in the same way that religions do, so you are like those you say you criticize.
yes...so much agony and abuse had been brought on by Christianity, and Satan does represent freedom.
Tobias speech summary is If by listening to Ghost's lyrics a single person feels better and is saved from a bad path or is saved from suicide, that would be a job that almost no one can do. And if it was necessary to use a controversial theatrical figure to make you a better person, then so be it. The end justifies the means and some people can say Ghost band was sent by God directly bypassing common churches, that can be a deep and powerful reasoning and worldview
Jesus loves all
I'm Christian. Love Ghost. The story they tell through their music is so compelling and interesting.
You are fucked.............but ok........if u like this confusion ok.........
He said he don't understand why Christians goes to church and still be very awful. You see , church is especially for awful people to become better 😊. You don't believe in God because there is no proof, i understand that. I always question to myself, what would i reply when a friend who doesn't believe in God ask me such questions. However, now I think , I have the answer, i.e. You just know he exist! If he was something that can be seen and prove just like that , evryone, majority would be a Christian. You just need to have a faith , even just the size of the mustard seed will do. You are free to hate me. Lastly, be careful of the songs you listen and movies you watch. Be aware of what you are feeding to yourselves and what are influencing you. Devil doesn't hide anymore. God Bless You All🙏
JESUS LIVES
He’s not fooling me
Have Philomena Cunk interview him
He rightfully mocks the corrupt Roman Catholic Church.. they’re not Christianity. Some of The most corrupt history known to man has been the Roman Catholic Church
Hail Satan hail ghost and most of it HAIL TOBIAS
There’s no difference in the biblical devil and the pop cultural devil. This dude may be a good entertainer and a talented individual but he’s lost as a goose in regards to eternal salvation. When I listen to his words I hear lack of control. He talks about “freedom” in place of self control. He calls religious people “shitty.” He calls himself a “satanist.” He has a deep-rooted hatred for Christianity, specifically. Believe me, he knows what he’s doing but hey … it’s his soul. Free will, right? 🤷🏻♂️
I so hope Tobias is right in what he says about these apocalyptic times. Everything seems so bleak. Writing this just after trump’s assassination attempt and the trump train is running straight to the White House. Very very scary prospect. I hope he is right to be optimistic ❤
The little kid interviewing T is real listening and engaged. Adult journalists could learn a thing or two from him!
The devil isn't a rock n roll icon. He tempts people to run human trafficking rings and drop bombs on children...
Dudes a moron
There is no God, there is no satan
No matter the organization, people will find a way to ruin it. If Satan becomes more popular to idolize, then in his name truly awful things people would do too. Because they don't think, or want to. Also it is a shame that people are lost in matters of the heart and soul, I can't say I have found the answers, but I feel sad for who has been hurt. Facing that kind of rejection is horrible.
The devil is real, hell is hot and eternity is long. Make your choice people and live and die with the consequences. Anyone who decides not to trust in the living God but instead put their faith and trust in this idiot Forge is quite simply a fool…
Haven't you ever heard that "he's" a deceiver. Sounds alot like "do what thou wilt"
What is funny to me is all the self proclaimed Christians here who say they have no problem with band and this man's philosophy. He clearly states that he is a humanist and and rejects Christianity and that feeling good / doing whatever make you happy is his ethic above all else. He knows better than God. Remember pride was the Lucifer's crime. Then in next breath he says he is not a Satanic in the Biblical sense. On the contrary that is exactly what he is. So I don't think the Christians and Catholics here know what they believe, or understand it. That is fine if you don't believe and want to do things your own way then leave the church and follow this man. Believing in a religion means understanding and following it's tenants. So if you examine them and don't agree then leave. Open rebuke is better than secret love. Make no mistake about it this man is full of pride and is law unto himself and holds himself to no moral law outside of himself. That is Satanic by its very nature. I reject this in its entirety.
Parece increible que este chico tan tranquilo y dulce se transformr en un escenario como lo hace es magistral❤❤
Copia yo creo que es el alter ego de tobias ❤
Eres una estrella y un líder nato tobias por eso te tienen envidia❤
Comment number 666 🤘🏼🔥
Humans are Amazing. Tobias is a perfect example of this. 💙💙💙💙🔥🔥🔥🔥
It sucks. I love god and am a catholic, but just because you have a bad childhood with Christian’s, I don’t think it’s ok to mock Christianity, but I ask god to forgive this man, and pray that he finds god. I do have to admit though, his music is good.
"I'm an optimist misanthropical hater of mankind" hahahaha yeah, me too
I love how he speaks so intelligently and English is not his first language
He sounds like he is u educated and has no clue what he is talking about lol
On stage he has a accent but in interviews he has none
His stage character is Italian. The accent is fake.
friendly wake up reminder: Satan doesn't care if you worship him, his job is to turn you away from GOD. You worshipping anything other than GOD is a win for him. You can worhip these decievers, celebrities, man made religions heck you can worship yourself! guess what it makes no difference you'll end up downstairs with him.
Stick a fork in me I’am done!!! My daughter has been a huuuge fan of Ghost for my years now and we went to see their movie tonight because my daughter was iat the LA concert and she was in it, I couldn’t believe how seductive this guy is on stage! I was blown away! Help me Rhonda lol!
I’m Christian. I have different beliefs. But one thing is for sure. GHOST IS AWESOME AND I LOVE THE BAND SM :D
everyone's a Christian till its time to repent
Interesting statement. Please elaborate @@martinvarela9274
Be careful
Tolerant and open minded Christians are the kind that we need more of. Thank you
Theologically, philosophically, and sociologically shallow. But don't tell my man, I don't think he knows. He has an aura about him that leads me to believe he seems himself as edgy, deep, and different. Oh, the irony. Ask questions, folks.
@ConcernedGeorge never liked Aerosmith
Luciferis his favorite angel
He does have some good points..
How can one man be so based
what about islam ? Tobias have you ever studied about it
Tobias Tobias Tobias believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you'll be Save. Amen.
I can see the light shining in his soul.
Oh man. I wish he realized who Satan really is. Humor, rock n roll, and freedom isn’t it. Satan is the vessel of darkness, depression, fear, despair, hate, oppression, loneliness, and eternal misery. He isn’t this misunderstood witty anti hero like he wants you to believe he is. Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life.
Satan is a fictional character, so he’s whatever we want him to be
@@uhlan30 He’s definitely not a fictional character.
@@CaseyAngelicaHardy He, and that pasty white dude yall dumbasses called Enunciated "J"-esus, comes from paintings. If you're that idiotic of a human being to base facts on thousand year old paintings, you have zero legislation in saying who is real, who is not real, and how other people are allowed to interpret fictional characters.
This pretty much spells put exactly why Ghost/Tobias' lyrics make absolutey zero theological sense, and also inadvertently why he is so casually blasphemous. As someone who loves the music of Ghost, I've always been incredibly disappointed with the laziness of the lyrics. Pretending "the devil" is simply misunderstood is intellectually dishonest at best, and abysmally immoral at worst. The louder your voice becomes the more responsibility you automatically and justifiably assume to the people around you. As an aside, there is no singular figure or entity in the old or new Testaments that encapsulates what is commonly associated with "Satan" or the "Devil" in popular western culture. That is to say, secular culturr has unsurprisingly completely misunderstood the Bible due to lack of reading and critical thinking, and of course not consulting people who dedicate their lives to its study and preservation of history. Anyway, at the end of the day there is no justification imaginable for writing a lovely little pop song and then in the chorus inserting the most blasphemous disgusting thing possible, aka insinuating Mary the mother of Christ is masturbating with a crucifix, the symbol of her son's/God's death and ultimate sacrifice. Its not cute, its not the same as AC/DC singing about casual sex, its straight up disgusting and abhorrent on every conceivable level. And in a secular sense what is even worse is how unnecessary it is in the song. Somehow Tobias missed the part in the Black Metal scene where all the "cool kids" grew up and started worshipping God's creation (aka nature worship) instead of actively worshipping evil.
“Blasphemy” lol. This isn’t the Dark Ages. This isn’t even the 1950s. We should be past caring about things like “blasphemy” by now.
Lol. Saying Tobias isn’t critically thinking while typing that garbage is peak irony
You just said that the Old Testament does not have a single entity called Satan, which is true. hasatan is not even evil - it is simply an adversary. Yet, you say Ghost worships evil? Make up your mind! Ghost is adversarial, true - adversarial to the fundamentalist, controlling, versions of religion. Yet, there is no indication of evil, no 'worship of evil'. There is rock, there is theatre, there is fun, and there are huge sold-out stadium concerts that seem to indicate that their version of pop-culture Satan is still pretty cool, and there is no need to grow up at all. But there is one other thing that you totally missed, that I think is of primary importance in response to your diatribe: neither Tobias nor his fans give a single flying fuk about your opinion on whether Ghost is evil or not, other than to be sad for you being caught up in a preoccupation with some fantasy evil when the world has some real human- made evil in it.