C. Derick Varn
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Varn Vlog: Prolekult Films on Capitalism or Extinction
James of @Prolekult films discusses the recent why we shouldn't limit our views of the environmental devastation of capitalism to just the climate or to confuse it with all human activity. We talk about about why.
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Host: C. Derick Varn ( Twitter: @skepoet Bluesky @varnvlog.bsky.social)
Cohost of Excavations: Jordin Dubin
Cohost of Vulgar Complexity: Abi Hassen
Audio Producer: Paul Channel Strip ( @aufhebenkultur )
Intro Musics: Spaceship Revolution by Etienne Roussel (Solo Intro), Bitterlake (Political Intro), Bitterlake (Strange Intro), The Siege of Kalameth by Jon Björk (Main Show Intro), Teknique b...
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Varn Vlog Solo: There Are No Adults in the Room and Other Questions
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Yes, I am as pessimistic as it indicates, but I do believe that people who are working smartly and independently can start to course correct. However, the more time we waste with intellectual coping mechanisms, the smaller that window is going to be. Abandon all hope ye who subscribe here. Please support our Patreon: www.patreon.com/varnvlog Host: C. Derick Varn ( Twitter: @skepoet Bluesky @var...
Varn Vlog Solo: The Politics Which is Not One, Part 1
Sometimes, we need to go back to basics, but after going through some of Hobbes's applications, let's ask ourselves what politics is in the anthropological, classical, and early modern senses of the term. Works Cited: Graeber, David; Sahlins, Marshall (2017). On Kings. Chicago, Il: Hau Books. Ryan, Alan (2012) On Politics: A History of Political Thought: From Herodotus to the Present. New York:...
Radical Engagements: Why the Left Should Reject Heidegger'sThought by Colin Bodayle
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Colin Boldayle's discussion of the limits and contradictions of Heidggerian ontology goes a long way to clarify why Marxists (and Hegelians) should be not try to integrate it into our thinking. Source: colinbodayle.substack.com/p/why-the-left-should-reject-heideggers Abandon all hope ye who subscribe here. Please support our Patreon: www.patreon.com/varnvlog Host: C. Derick Varn ( Twitter: @ske...
Varn Vlog:: Charles Dashings on Søren Kierkegaard and Existential Ethics
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Charles Dashings of the Moral Minority podcast ( open.spotify.com/show/1YISJBjbaJ9G5fJsaUMJOq ) visits the show to discuss Søren Kierkegaard's ethical vision. Abandon all hope ye who subscribe here. Please support our Patreon: www.patreon.com/varnvlog Host: C. Derick Varn ( Twitter: @skepoet Bluesky @varnvlog.bsky.social) Cohost of Excavations: Jordin Dubin Cohost of Vulgar Complexity: Abi Hass...
Varn Vlog Solo: Atomic Man and The State of Nature
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We continue using Alan Ryan and my reflections to see how familiar and foreign Hobbes' political philosophy is. We deal with Hobbes' physics, theology, and views of human equality leading to the need for inequality in more detail, and I point out some of the assumptions surrounding the thought. Work Cited: Ryan, Alan (2016). On Hobbes: Escaping the War of All Against All. W.W. Norton. Abandon a...
Radical Engagements: :Stop Saying 'Isolationist'" by Tim Barker
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Tim Barker talks about what isolationism as a concept hides. I mostly agree with this and want to go into how the isolationist slur helps both pernicious sides of US politics. Source: ourtime.substack.com/p/stop-saying-isolationist Abandon all hope ye who subscribe here. Please support our Patreon: www.patreon.com/varnvlog Host: C. Derick Varn ( Twitter: @skepoet Bluesky @varnvlog.bsky.social) ...
Varn Vlog: From Dawn to Decadence with Chris and Jason, Part 2
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Regrettable Century and Varn Vlog continue the series on "Decadence Theory" as well as clarifying "crisis theory" and "breakdown theory." We discuss Samir Amin's decadence theory. We discuss the following: Revolution or Decadence? monthlyreview.org/2018/05/01/revolution-or-decadence/ Prior Episode: ruclips.net/video/_GkY5Tvlv-Y/видео.html Abandon all hope ye who subscribe here. Please support o...
Varn Vlog Solo: The Declining Rate of Learning Progressive Enabling and Complexity
Graduation rates go up, and literacy rates go down in the US (and most of the older public education systems). The left embraces making excuses for it as much as now. I am getting tired of it. Sources for stats I bring up: www.crossrivertherapy.com/research/literacy-statistics huebler.blogspot.com/2010/09/lit.html#:~:text=At the global level, both,0.90 (see Table 1). nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/at...
Varn Vlog Solo: The Leviathans and the Atom
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Hobbes is both a beginning to and a negation of classical liberalism. Yet his assumptions about science, metaphysics, and human nature are often only partially explored. I reflected on the importance of dealing with a thinker's original context and intellectual motivations and how they often emerge from material history. Work Cited: Ryan, Alan (2016). On Hobbes: Escaping the War of All Against ...
Radical Engagements: Working Class Men Are Not Okay by Ryan Zickgraf
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We continue talking about the decline of the blue-collar working class in the US. Source: jacobin.com/2024/10/working-class-men-health-unemployment Abandon all hope ye who subscribe here. Please support our Patreon: www.patreon.com/varnvlog Host: C. Derick Varn ( Twitter: @varnvlog, Bluesky @varnvlog.bsky.social) Intro Musics: Spaceship Revolution by Etienne Roussel (Solo Intro), Bitterlake (Po...
Varn Vlog Solo: The Sovereign and the Rebel
We start with the paradoxes of Hobbes's concepts of the sovereign, and, yes, there are two. However, Hobbes will be one-upped by Bataille who takes the concept and uses it in the context of Albert Camus and goes wild. Work Cited: Bataille, Georges (2006). The Absence of Myth. Verso. Ryan, Alan (2016). On Hobbes: Escaping the War of All Against All. W.W. Norton. Abandon all hope ye who subscribe...
Varn Vlog: Daniel Tutt on the Meaning of Dictatorship of the Proletariat from Draper to Balibar
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Daniel Tutt returns to talk about Hal Draper's Dictatorship of the Proletariat From Marx to Lenin and Étienne Balibar'a On the Dictatorship of the Proletariat. Daniel Tutt is a writer, philosopher and host of the Emancipations podcast on philosophy, psychoanalytic theory, and contemporary political struggles. Chapters: 00:46 - 10:02 - Introduction 10:02 - 13:46 - On Balibar's book On the Dictat...
Varn Vlog Solo: The Paradox of Voting
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Note: Voter turn-out was lower than in 2020, but it was not low despite Harris losing 10 million votes to nothing. I recorded this just before the election. I had repeated some liberal centrist predictions that voting in 2024 would be low because of the unpopularity of candidates, but then I started hearing predictions of the opposite. A friend of the show told me to look at the historical stat...
Varn Vlog: Chris Cutrone On the Paradoxes of the Current Left
Varn Vlog: Chris Cutrone On the Paradoxes of the Current Left
Excavations: "The Accursed Share" Volume 1, Part 2 by George Bataille
Excavations: "The Accursed Share" Volume 1, Part 2 by George Bataille
Varn Vlog: Katherine Dee of Default Blog on The Future of Internet Culture
Varn Vlog: Katherine Dee of Default Blog on The Future of Internet Culture
Varn Vlog: Alex Strekal on the Post-Bernie Malaise and Fragmenting of the US Left
Varn Vlog: Alex Strekal on the Post-Bernie Malaise and Fragmenting of the US Left
Varn Vlog: Benjamin Studebaker on The Crisis of Legitimacy in Liberal Democracies
Varn Vlog: Benjamin Studebaker on The Crisis of Legitimacy in Liberal Democracies
Radical Engagements: Sea and Earth by Miri Davidson
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Radical Engagements: Sea and Earth by Miri Davidson
Boundless and Bottomless Seas: The Fourth Political Theory by Aleksandr Dugin (9)
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Boundless and Bottomless Seas: The Fourth Political Theory by Aleksandr Dugin (9)
Varn Vlog: Jonathan Korman Debates The Differences between Socialism ad Radical Liberalism
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Varn Vlog: Jonathan Korman Debates The Differences between Socialism ad Radical Liberalism
Varn Vlog Solo : Two Four Letter Words and the Siren's Song
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Varn Vlog Solo : Two Four Letter Words and the Siren's Song
Radical Engagements: "The Ontological Break" by Robert Kurz
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Radical Engagements: "The Ontological Break" by Robert Kurz
Varn Vlog: Jon Repetti of Five Good Hours on French Continental Theory and Socialism
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Varn Vlog: Jon Repetti of Five Good Hours on French Continental Theory and Socialism
Varn Vlog Solo: The Rot of Fourth Estate
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Varn Vlog Solo: The Rot of Fourth Estate
Radical Engagements: "Democracy is Joy" By Mark Fisher
Radical Engagements: "Democracy is Joy" By Mark Fisher
Varn Vlog From Dawn to Decadence with Chris and Jason,, Part 3
Varn Vlog From Dawn to Decadence with Chris and Jason,, Part 3
Varn Vlog: Matt McManus on Liberal Socialism
Varn Vlog: Matt McManus on Liberal Socialism
Radical Engagements: "The Rise & Fall Of Higher Education.." by Ian Welsh
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Radical Engagements: "The Rise & Fall Of Higher Education.." by Ian Welsh

Комментарии

  • @TheJev25
    @TheJev25 7 часов назад

    As reported just this week, the Arctic is now a net source of carbon emissions. There is more carbon stored in the now thawing permafrost than is currently stored in the atmosphere. We are increasing global average temperatures by 0.36 degrees celcius per decade now, meaning we will hit 2 degrees above pre-industrial temps by the late 2030s. At this temperature, all Arctic permafrost starts to irreversibly thaw and the Amazon begins its transition from rainforest to savannah. These conversations are amusing at best in the light of all this. Especially the discussion of the 'choice' of 'degrowth'. As always, physics will have the last say.

  • @manuag3886
    @manuag3886 10 часов назад

    Interesting analysis

  • @theobradshaw2761
    @theobradshaw2761 День назад

    Props to the thumbnail you've intergrated the profile well

  • @Prolekult
    @Prolekult День назад

    Thanks for having us on comrade!

    • @VarnVlog
      @VarnVlog День назад

      I always enjoy hosting you guys, we mostly agree and even where we may differ, it is always productive.

    • @Prolekult
      @Prolekult 2 часа назад

      @VarnVlog Agree with you wholly! Always a pleasure comrade

  • @joeheuft
    @joeheuft День назад

    Fine, I’ll kick back and enjoy the black pill

  • @EWeis33
    @EWeis33 День назад

    WHAT A LINK UP WOW NICE

  • @mutualayyde6032
    @mutualayyde6032 День назад

    if everything is this dysfunctional, doesn't that provide any movement that get some degree of competence a massive competitive advantage?

    • @VarnVlog
      @VarnVlog День назад

      It could yes, but the problem is not group is going to be competent at everything to reproduce modern society, and in the long run, that is fine, but in the short run its a limit.

    • @mutualayyde6032
      @mutualayyde6032 22 часа назад

      @@VarnVlog sure but a more competitive environment will spur others on

  • @mattgilbert7347
    @mattgilbert7347 2 дня назад

    Soft? I don't think so. Ridiculous.

  • @SorryStamin
    @SorryStamin 2 дня назад

    To comment on the beginning, a vlog doesnt necessarily imply a singular person. For example "The traveling band's vlog" seems a reasonable use of the word, and functionally "andrews vlog" could include multiple people as andrew may be vlogging about his experiences with a team or group. Solo lets us know its just you showing up !

  • @nikolademitri731
    @nikolademitri731 2 дня назад

    Office in Portland.. hmm, idk who you mean.

    • @kyledrums
      @kyledrums 2 дня назад

      Oh I have a hunch lol. Especially if you know how the second city mentioned could be connected to the suspected “office”. Mere speculation though.

  • @ngsq12
    @ngsq12 2 дня назад

    The best make you startle to silence.

  • @Experimental-Unit
    @Experimental-Unit 2 дня назад

    Æ: Atrocity Exhibition

  • @O_Draws
    @O_Draws 2 дня назад

    The mistake in thinking that you're being soft on some guests who have certain tendencies seems to come from the misconception that your _show_ is, in some miraculous way, political action or practice. As you've pointed out, too many people treat podcasts, and punditry as a proxy for praxis. These people need to escape the melodramas of their own minds and accept their lack of access to actual politics. This is all infotainment -- pedagogy in the dress of cable access.

    • @VarnVlog
      @VarnVlog 2 дня назад

      "pedagogy in the dress of cable access? - that is about accurate.

    • @nikolademitri731
      @nikolademitri731 2 дня назад

      That’s a clever line, I like that.

  • @stevenappelget3564
    @stevenappelget3564 2 дня назад

    LOL at anyone claiming Derick is "soft" on anything.

  • @zainmudassir2964
    @zainmudassir2964 2 дня назад

    It's insane how the west is celebrating fall of Syria to rebranded Al Qaeda led by former ISIS deputy. Hope it doesn't affect Hezbollah struggle against Israel

  • @gengar1187
    @gengar1187 2 дня назад

    Sssoooo what I hear you saying is: we have to get higher quality psykers for the Emporer, not just more.

  • @xuxArtemis
    @xuxArtemis 2 дня назад

    I don't think ur talking to me, LMAO

  • @GChagelishvili
    @GChagelishvili 2 дня назад

  • @xuxArtemis
    @xuxArtemis 2 дня назад

    there Are no Adults, you totAlly convinced me

  • @prog8454
    @prog8454 2 дня назад

    My question on foucault is what kind of idealist is he? It's no question that he is influenced by Heideggerian thought but on the other hand, and I might be wrong about this, but it seems that he is suspicious of the subjective, contra Heidegger, that one interview quote where he cautions against the use of gay identity into replicating Christian morality, or the general accusation that he wants to do away the idea of the subject doesn't fit neatly with the issues raised in this article, to me at least. While many make use of the quote foucault makes about hegel as a conclusive statement about the compatibility between the two thinkers. What's left out is that the hegel foucault is opposed to is Kojève's hegel, not the various interpretations popular in hegel scholarship.

  • @SandiDaly-j6z
    @SandiDaly-j6z 3 дня назад

    Thanks for the breakdown! Just a quick off-topic question: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?

  • @fulvoma512
    @fulvoma512 3 дня назад

    4:29 you're saying nobody focuses on or takes seriously the Nazi involvement but Theory Underground has made a pretty big point of that, no? McKerracher and Nance did a 24 hour stream in two parts within two days reading and elaborating on Heidegger in Ruins, and the political question is a major thread throughout McKerracher's lecture course on Being and Time.

    • @fulvoma512
      @fulvoma512 3 дня назад

      Finished the whole video... There are much more intelligent ways of going after Heidegger, and simplifying him into a subjectivist idealist is not it. That's just a cheap strawman. McKerracher and Haz just went into the reasons why Heidegger matters for both Eastern and Western Marxism, and of course McKerracher does this for post left or post Marxism too. Heidegger's lack of leftist commitments, the fields he draws from, and his interests between 1916 and 1929 make his work from that period absolutely essential for those of us who want to understand the situation anew. Marxism is not sufficient for the task.

    • @bigggmoustache8868
      @bigggmoustache8868 2 дня назад

      @@fulvoma512can you share the title of the video you watched because I don’t think it exists lol

    • @bigggmoustache8868
      @bigggmoustache8868 2 дня назад

      At 20 minutes, the criticism given seems like conflating real with reality in the use of being, no? This seems like people thinking Husserl was too dumb to catch his own idealism. I’ll watch the rest, maybe it’ll be clarified.

    • @theory_underground
      @theory_underground 2 дня назад

      I'm not sure I follow ​@@bigggmoustache8868

  • @DM-ks1pj
    @DM-ks1pj 3 дня назад

    Varn has a way of consolidating a lot of different ideas from a huge range of thinkers. It helps me make some sense out of this shit.

  • @Cricket12226
    @Cricket12226 4 дня назад

    So Heidegger collapses the subject/object dialectic into mere subjectivity? That certainly explains a lot.

    • @VarnVlog
      @VarnVlog 4 дня назад

      @@Cricket12226 he seems to at some points yes

  • @Experimental-Unit
    @Experimental-Unit 4 дня назад

    Ideas & interpretations are real events...

  • @Experimental-Unit
    @Experimental-Unit 4 дня назад

    "A weird convergent thing to notice" When you realize this sort of moment is the key, you enter Æ: Absolute Exploit

  • @Experimental-Unit
    @Experimental-Unit 4 дня назад

    Wanna see engagement with Afropessimist adoptions

    • @VarnVlog
      @VarnVlog 4 дня назад

      @@Experimental-Unit no

  • @theswoletariat3479
    @theswoletariat3479 5 дней назад

    Thanks for this

  • @Experimental-Unit
    @Experimental-Unit 5 дней назад

    lol political sovereignty is an idea

    • @VarnVlog
      @VarnVlog 5 дней назад

      @@Experimental-Unit and?

  • @curiousfella4076
    @curiousfella4076 5 дней назад

    26:44 I'd just tell Engels that I'm not here to grant the miracle of the big bang. Not like it matters one way or another (almost certainly).

    • @curiousfella4076
      @curiousfella4076 5 дней назад

      There being an objectivity (or not) to something is irrelevant as to what we can do with it. We can operate along the lines of "as if" and continue to see that things function. But that's a heuristic not a proof.

    • @curiousfella4076
      @curiousfella4076 5 дней назад

      32:55 "The rub" may as well be that people will wield "various representations of being happened" as well as "real events really happened" in elitists ways.

  • @benediktzoennchen
    @benediktzoennchen 5 дней назад

    Very interesting. To be fair, I do not think that Latour's actual position is that he denies the material existence of the bacteria. But he argues that attributing his death to a disease identified millennia later is anachronistic, as the conceptual framework to recognize and understand the bacillus did not exist in Ramses II's time. This perspective emphasizes that scientific facts are constructed through historical and social processes, rather than existing as immutable truths awaiting discovery. Facts are both: real and constructed which I find rather uncontroversial. Imo, he is less of a philosopher and more of a sociologist.

    • @bigggmoustache8868
      @bigggmoustache8868 2 дня назад

      Yeah I turned it off at that point lmao. No point watching or reading this. It’s either that or throwing half of phenomenology out the window because rOcKs DoN’t ExIsT lolll.

  • @curiousfella4076
    @curiousfella4076 5 дней назад

    ~23:00 I'm thinking contingency is the key insight here. It'd be a great shame if normally, people assumed that reality is really real and I have talked to someone before who really wanted me to buy into that. As if it really meant something one way or another as to what we should do. Well that guy had problems but also money. He was really into getting his definitions "perfect". Like just give me your definition and I give you mine and let's have a mutually intelligible conversation on that basis. But no.

    • @curiousfella4076
      @curiousfella4076 5 дней назад

      The idea that only human individuals can discover reality is of course quite troubled in its own right. Why couldn't a rock discover reality in its own terms? Or a society?

  • @curiousfella4076
    @curiousfella4076 5 дней назад

    When you say things like "avowed Heideggarian" and the person in question says in another place that ~"Heidegger is too much about individuals but Heidegger stands to provide insight to western thinkers that they usually wouldn't get elsewhere" you raise my interest in your interpretation of the argument you picked up from the text in question. Would you reproduce the logic for me in a few sentences?

    • @curiousfella4076
      @curiousfella4076 5 дней назад

      Do note I draw my appreciation for the guy in a couple of ways. 1) It's interesting to me what others get from Michael Hudson and H.P. Lovecraft. 2) He's a solid entertainer. 3) He's big on reminding people that one need not get wed to any lifestyle branding exercise. Maybe to a fault but so I do see enough people give away their metaphoric souls in dumb ways so that is that.

  • @SeekingApatheia
    @SeekingApatheia 5 дней назад

    Never go full Latour

  • @TheYoungtrust
    @TheYoungtrust 5 дней назад

    Academia, simp for a Nazi; cancel for supporting Palestine.

  • @curiousfella4076
    @curiousfella4076 7 дней назад

    On the point of repetition and gastric issues I'll just say don't sleep on mild allergy cross reactivity. No hazelnuts for me.

  • @liamlenihan1328
    @liamlenihan1328 7 дней назад

    Great discussion. Hugely informative.

  • @Travel_Loser
    @Travel_Loser 8 дней назад

    How can one choose when one has been deprived of choices?

    • @VarnVlog
      @VarnVlog 7 дней назад

      One obviously cannot

  • @strom.mccallum
    @strom.mccallum 8 дней назад

    My brother describes me as "Søren Kierkegaard meets Kenny Powers".

  • @lawfulandlegal
    @lawfulandlegal 8 дней назад

    what do you think The Leviathans are/is? do you take this in a non Christian form? i feeling like your missing a big part of the view he and many other creators of institutions had laid down. most of all of them was to have a ""perfect"" Society the rich man's Pastime game. the ""summum bonum"" they think they are more moral than you, thus you should obey the theory of government and laws to help you reach that. to be honest the Leviathan are the very people claiming to help you while getting rich lol all the top role models rn. path to hell is wide. the goal and problem is the soul. what is it? how do you have it? the Leviathan thinks you are soulless and can now do whatever it wants to you but like all the other times in the bible when the Jews are in slavery if they saw that they had left God and vehemently sought him and repented they could free themselves of the Leviathan to a degree that they were under God. hard to claim to understand if you really just don't get it . but that's the oldest trope maybe they just did it wrong. lmao

  • @mattgilbert7347
    @mattgilbert7347 9 дней назад

    Love me some smart enemies. Hobbes is one of the smartest.

  • @TheYoungtrust
    @TheYoungtrust 9 дней назад

    Only Derick could render Hobbs intriguing to me.

  • @the_furthest_reaches
    @the_furthest_reaches 9 дней назад

    Only militarists use the term, and when they use it, it should be pointed out that no one’s calling for US citizens to stop traveling or trading or interacting with the rest of the world, only questioning the viability, usefulness, & morality of US power projectIon given the damage it’s wrought both here & abroad.

  • @allypoum
    @allypoum 9 дней назад

    Really been enjoying these. Our boy in top form.

  • @alimiti7265
    @alimiti7265 9 дней назад

    It was an amazing reading.

  • @lightningpuppies
    @lightningpuppies 9 дней назад

    I want to defend liberal atomism to an extent, and thus defend Hobbes on this aspect. I think that Hobbes's notion that we started without sociality can actually be partially defended considering that we did not really "start" as humans, but rather we started as single celled organisms, which in turn needed to develop sociality. Either we have to consider instincts as having in and of themselves social content or we have to consider these instincts as inevitably leading to social content: the difference being humans having the instinctive capability to walk upright, but nonetheless need to learn how to walk upright: In the same way one could consider having instinctual capabilities that inevitably lead to social behavior, but the individual still is born without any social concepts as such, and is thus still born atomic. If on the other hand, instincts do have social content then while atomism cannot be justified as applying to the present directly, it still should be the bedrock of analysis historically through the evolution of life (and thus the progression of these instincts). Still, none of this justifies his emphasis of the negative advantages of sociality (preventing conflict) over the positive advantages of cooperation.

    • @TheYoungtrust
      @TheYoungtrust 9 дней назад

      Noam Chomsky figured out.s Our language and, consequently, society are inherently structured; furthermore, I am uncertain that Hobbes would have contemplated contemporary evolutionary theories.

    • @lightningpuppies
      @lightningpuppies 9 дней назад

      @@TheYoungtrust I know about the structure of language in the mind, but I don't get how that contradicts what I said. Presumably that would still fall under one the two possibilities I listed? I'm also not concerned with whether or how Hobbes himself would have contemplated contemporary evolutionary theories, I'm trying to argue that one aspect of his analysis (methodological atomism) is still possible with it.

    • @TheYoungtrust
      @TheYoungtrust 8 дней назад

      @@lightningpuppies Tell me if I've got this wrong, but does the fact that humans have a similar structure not imply that it cannot be divided into smaller parts?

    • @lightningpuppies
      @lightningpuppies 8 дней назад

      @@TheYoungtrust If I'm getting you right, maybe kinda? I think technically speaking just about anything can be divided into smaller parts, no matter how interconnected, but if you're concerned with the larger whole you, if you want to be 100% accurate, have to consider ALL interactions and potentials between these objects. Most of the time 'reductionists' don't fully do this, but consider the constitutive parts with some of their interrelations "simplified". This almost always is less accurate, as Varn likes to point out, it leads to part to whole fallacies. But less accurate does not necessarily mean useless. Whatever his intent, Hobbes effectively does such a simplification by imagining a time prior to sociality, and thus considering a time where people have way less interrelations, he then seeks to explain the creation of sociality in people from this time without it. The question is how useful is this simplified picture likely to be? I guess the position that you can understand a good deal of sociality from assuming individuals with no inherent sociality is what we call atomic since it suggests social facts can be explained by considering individuals (atoms) abstracted from their sociality (in order to explain this very sociality in aggregate). One issue is over whether or not the structure has content of its own which is strictly 'innate' or if it rather has content which is inevitable. If there is no innate social content then each baby/child has to go from a totally non-social consciousness to a social consciousness and this suggests that an explanation of sociality starting from positing asocial peoples will be less inaccurate than it otherwise would be. To use an analogy: in this case babies learning sociality would be like particles (babies) in a solution accumulating on an already partially formed crystal (society). In the analogy, Hobbes would propose we could understand the formation of a crystal by considering all of the particles in a solution, and then makes a theory for how, without any prior partially formed crystal, the crystal would nonetheless form. This might lead to inaccuracies, since a crystal might not form at all without prior nucleation sites (i.e. sociality might not always form without prior sociality, when it would if there were prior sociality), but nonetheless such an "atomic" outlook might get approximately correct conclusions. If, on the other hand, there is innate social content, then we would not expect such an analysis of humans to do anywhere near as well. It would be like if we once again tried to consider particles in a solution to explain a solid that was not made by crystal formation at all, but was formed by one priorly connected material being cooked into the material in question. Here is when the evolutionary story comes in. Here we ask about that "priorly connected material" and go up the chain of causation until it is not connected anymore, and then the 'atomic' (that is, less connected) assumptions once again seem more applicable. To drop the metaphor there must have been some point where asocial creatures became social, even if humans are born social. Atomism would then be applicable. This seems a bit silly, and clearly suggests less applicability of the atomic approach when it comes to humans, but, to the extent that these forms of sociality have not substantially changed, it would still offer some applicability. Aside from purely "disinterested" theoretical concerns, I think I'm attracted to Hobbesian-ish atomism since it seems more freedom oriented (ironically enough). For it states that sociality is made by the whims of the people, and thus is to some extent controllable by it. The creation of society itself is cast in Hobbes as a revolutionary act, no matter how much he disdains later revolutions. Varn's appeal to biological sociality in contrast posits a sociality which has certain aspects not at the whims of the people, and thus not free for them to change. This might be correct, but I tend to believe, when it is at all plausible, that some freedom is possible (which is not to say that that freedom would necessarily be likely). I think there is a teleological bias in discourse for touting the impossibility of some freedom or another, so I generally err on the side of more freedoms being possible.

  • @curiousfella4076
    @curiousfella4076 9 дней назад

    17:11 When Hobbes holds up custom (as showing respect) while practicing epistemic humility aka curiosity (a form of showing respect that at times may not be perceived as such) one must ask what he's actually pointing to. Was he also thinking about systems that could continue to improve themselves indefinitely?

    • @curiousfella4076
      @curiousfella4076 9 дней назад

      Now why would Leo Strauss come to believe from this that religion could be used to maintain social order and how does that look like, how open ended is how that looks like?

    • @curiousfella4076
      @curiousfella4076 9 дней назад

      This idea that people would mimic virtues that others intentionally model is pretty funny at this point, yeah. Show me people enjoying themselves in their unscripted interactions and I'll grant that there is virtue there somehow. Or tell me a good story that involves such. That's the minimum not necessarily sufficient.

    • @curiousfella4076
      @curiousfella4076 9 дней назад

      Fascinating stuff besides the crude attempt to draft the law for some perfect state or whatever and justify it with a flourish or another (as if Hobbes knew what criticism God would seek or not seek; though maybe that's a nod to the aristocrats of the time?) and some preconceived notions. The dual character of power is quite relevant if we look at some of our institutions today that are supposed to e.g. inform us of reality but drift towards more looking out for their own reproduction or the reproduction of covert systems that may or may not be timely.

    • @VarnVlog
      @VarnVlog 9 дней назад

      @@curiousfella4076 I need to cover Strauss after Dugin for this reason

  • @zainmudassir2964
    @zainmudassir2964 9 дней назад

    Atom ant

    • @sk8p0nk
      @sk8p0nk 9 дней назад

      Kings of the Wild Frontier🥁

  • @Experimental-Unit
    @Experimental-Unit 9 дней назад

    See Pyrrho, Anaximander. Pyrrho also may have spoken with Jains see Non-Absolutism & Non-Possession aspects of Ahimsa

    • @VarnVlog
      @VarnVlog 9 дней назад

      @@Experimental-Unit that is definitely possible

  • @zainmudassir2964
    @zainmudassir2964 11 дней назад

    Thanks varn. Freedom struggle for Palestine will never be over