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The rap beef is a perfect example of the irony of calling this the "year of the truth" everyone is throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks- nobody actually cares what's true or not because they are intent on believing what they want about who they want. They yearn for public flogging as you put it.

I have had this argument many times when people say there is only American culture SO FRUSTRATING! I usually have to use regional culture differences to start to explain there is no unified American culture. Same observation are true for literature. I am 67 and have seen most of the list but only because friends and relatives have brought them to my attention.

From 8 minutes on... I was having the exact conversation with a brotha from Georgia and this guy proved his ignorance smh I was telling him that theres a disproportionate amount of non black directors not only telling our stories or involved in our stories, music video wise, a lot of the classic were directed, produced and lensed by white people from middle class upbringings. Im all for inclusivity of everyone BUT if we aren't getting even half the opportunities to do it in their spaces, we need to look at the whole picture... this guy was like what if they are a redneck or poor white trash and they are directing the films, they can relate to us. And i laughed. Im like name ONE redneck film director making a wave thats not in a kiddy pool

White male over 25 here, and a big movie buff. I've only seen one movie from the starter pack (Do the Right Thing)... Oof... A few that have been on my list for ages (mainly Malcolm X -- Boyz in the Hood and Coming to America are kinda passively on my list). I've seen much more of the recent ones you mention. Get Out, Moonlight, Hidden Figures, Django Unchained, The Help, Selma -- I guess there's a strong correlation here with these all being movies that were nominated at the Oscars. Some not mentioned I loved are Sorry to Bother You, Blindspotting, Us, Candyman (both 90s and '22), People Under the Stairs, His House, and a few smaller movies like A Thousand And One and Emergency. (If it isn't clear, I'm a horror guy.) I guess I ought to rack up some more of these classics. Thanks for pointing this out!

The only black movies watched by white people (and Asians) are movies that have relatable characters and a solid story line. The Harder they Fall - 2021 flopped for me, but American Gangster - 2007 was an epic win. Woke stories and themes are pretty much failures. (How many low income black people enjoyed watching Brokeback Mountain 2005?). Black Panther 2018 was a hit, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever was a flop.

I don't watch black movies simply because I don't like blacks. I have the privilege of living in Italy as an Italian, so we don't have to deal with blacks here. May the Gods be praised

It really is that deep. Wonderful video. The first time or the time i remember seeing love making on screen was Love and basketball .

One great example of black movies that center inclusion of white people is the movie "honey." (2003) 5:34 It was directed by a black man BUT... The main protagonist is a white woman named "honey" who wants to become a professional hip hop dancer. Besides the main character being white, this movie screams "black movie." It takes place in black neighborhoods and black culture, secondary protagonist's and supporting characters are mostly black, and it shows our main lead being interested in her own success to go through an arc and character development where she learns to support others and not be so self-centered. This includes her: supporting and being positive towards the black people around her (Which does unfortunately suffer from the savior trope). This movie is the definition of "invited to the cook out." The main character was literally "invited to the cook out." and the movie made a profit because of this. I would say mostly black men and woman under and over 25 watched this, and white women over 25 watched this. Not enough margins to fully make it super successful, but still enough to be a decent profit. Also the movie is good and is really fun so you should watch it.

As a white person, I saw almost all of the '80s and '90s films in the starter pack because I saw marketing for them. From the 2000s to now, however, I feel like other than Jordan Peele's films and Hidden Figures, the marketing just isn't there. I had to discover films like One Night in Miami and Selma for myself, because the marketing was (I assume) mostly limited to black spaces.

2 videos and I became a Subscriber! Very good content and you really make me think! So many questions and statements.

Black film starter pack? I have seen almost every one of those movies growing up. I lived in a rural small farming community that was 99% white. I think most of my classmates watched them as well. I think that a lot of white people see a trailer that is predominantly black and assumes that a white person automatically is going to be the bad guy. So it is immediately dismissed. So, it's more of giving the movie a chance than to judge it. I think you should add. "I'm gonna get you sucka" and "Lean on me" to the list. Maybe " The Last Dragon" for a good time.

Definitely not just for black people. I'm a historian of the mexican-american experience. I love films about black history because it illustrates ethnic American history as a whole. It has always inspired me.

This video is great! I really enjoyed the way you broke down marketability and the role it plays in not seeing many black-people-focused narratives, particularly from black writers and / or directors. To answer your question (hopefully), I grew up in a very caucasian part of the US, and when I was growing up, I preferred to watch tv shows that featured black folks simply because they were good shows but I also really loved seeing “how the other half lived” (even if only for tv). My ultra racist dad would have lost his mind if he knew I was almost exclusively watching: Arsenio Hall, In Living Color, Martin, Living Single, the Jeffersons, etc. but I thought it was great to see something about and people I didn’t get to in my day-to-day life. (I also listened to a lot of wonderful music from a very young age that was centered on black artists, which he seemed to have less of a problem with. My first music love was doo-wop / 50s crooner music and I’ve never lost that affinity.) And I don’t fall for ploys like the Blindside or the Help or even the Green Mile (though I read the books first because I was in a Steven King phase at the time) because we can all see the Macguffinistic role those movies set out for their black characters, which I find neglectful and opportunistic at the same time. It’s so interesting to experience anything that isn’t *your* experience and I wish more white people could do that. Especially considering the white history and tradition of abject racism, colonialism, and slavery. Stepping outside of your experience I dare say fosters empathy, and without that you can’t understand that all people are basically the same. (And yet delightfully different in special and wonderful ways!) Long story long (sorry tl;dr forthcoming): thank you for your perspective and I subscribed to see more of your thought-provoking content 🦄🌈💖

I loved the movie "The American Society of Magical Negroes” I thought it was an incredibly well-done movie for what it was, a comedy film that satirizes the Magical Negro trope. I also enjoyed a few of the film's themes, which are similar to the tone of the messages in this video! A good portion of America doesn't get satire and is gravely offended. Another portion of America is not aware of the Magical negro troupe and the "need" for it in white films. And you have another group intermingling and intersecting that doesn't have to worry about things outside of white majority culture, and to point out how things are made palatable to them in a very mild artistic fashion tends to offend their racial sensibilities.

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There's an aspect you're missing here and that is simply that there are people who are unlikely to see a movie within that genre regardless of race. For instance I would have no interest in seeing Love and Basketball, not because it's a black centric story, but I generally do not care about romance movies and dramas. But comedies and horror movies are different matter. I don't know any white person within my age group that hasn't seen Friday. Me and my friends use to quote Coming to America regularly. It's like saying I should have seen Gone With The Wind because that's an uber white movie. I haven't seen that movie because it's some old period drama and I have no interest in those movies.

This is a weird rabbit hole I’m in. Watching a nice black lady teaching about white people not watching black stuff. Ironic

What is a "Black Movie" ?

I'm a white guy and I have only seen five movies in the Black Film Starter pack. Coming to America (big mainstream hit, with a big star), Do the Right Thing, Malcolm X, Boyz in the Hood (critically acclaimed, awards nominated movies) and Friday, which I was never interested in watching until it just kept getting referenced over and over. Which compelled me to check it out. I thought it was OK. It wasn't really my type of humor though. Of the ones I haven't seen, Set it Off is one that I had been interested in seeing since it originally came out. I remember it got good reviews and working within the genre of a bank robbery movie that added another level of appeal. I just never got around to it. I should try to rectify that soon. Love & Basketball and House Party I also always heard good things about. I don't believe I never got around to them because they were black movies, but maybe there is an unconscious bias that caused me to look past them. I'm not sure. Soul Food and The Best Man both always seemed fine. I think it was more the genre that I was not interested in when they came out. A family drama and romantic comedy even with a white cast would probably not have been something I would have watched at the time. I'd be more open to them now as I have gotten older though. Poetic Justice and Boomerang, it was the poor reviews that kept me from being interested in watching them. With regards to other movies mentioned, I never saw The Blind Side (bad reviews, despite the Oscar win for Sandra Bullock) or Detroit (I would have seen it, I just never got around to it). I did see The Last Black Man in San Francisco, The Help, Moonlight, 12 Years a Slave, Selma, The Butler (I didn't like that one), Get Out, Django Unchained and Hidden Figures. I saw the 1985 version of The Color Purple, but not the musical version. I never saw Baby Boy, Drumline, Stomp the Yard, Beauty Shop, American Society of Magical Negroes (I never actually heard of that one before). Cultural differences certainly might explain why I never considered seeing them. I always believed I was watching a lot of different movies, representing diverse cultures. However, it could be argued that maybe I wasn't.

THIS is what your channel is about? Movies, and who watches them and who doesn't? Can't you come up with something more interesting? I see the direction of this channel. Racism. A criticism about white people. Should have known.

I think part of the main problem is that movies that focus on black characters, are still poorly marketed by studios. Back in 2012, I went to the theater a lot. I just happend to see a poster after I got out of another movie, for the movie Red Tails (about the Tuskegee airmen) That was the only way I found out about that movie. There was no online promotion for it; I never saw a commercial for it, etc. It's like the movie didn't exist. Once I went to go see it at the theater, I remembered thinking at the time how bummed I was that the theater was so empty, because the movie was brilliant, and no one knew about it. My mom and I (we're both old white ladies now) loved it. But my mom was watching shows like Good Times, The Jeffersons, The Cosby Show, etc, in the 80s. She was trying to introduce me and my brother to other types of people, even though we lived in a very white suburb and went to mostly white schools. (Black kids were bused in from other neighborhoods back then) I found out when I was older that my father was a "covert racist" but he was abusive, so maybe it was my mom's way of trying to rebel against his racism. She wanted us to know that the world should not revolve around white people. So as the years went by, both my brother and I would also watch shows and movies that focused on black characters, but sometimes they are hard to become aware of, if they don't get marketed well. So we have to seek them out, since even now in 2024, we still have "look for" movies and TV shows that focus on other black stories, since the only ones that seem to get promoted to white audiences are about "black struggle". For example, I'm sure 12 Years a Slave is a good movie, with a brilliant black cast, but why is that the only type of genre that always gets attention? That movie got promoted endlessly, but a brilliant movie called Fast Color, about super hero powers passed down through a generation of black women, got completely ignored. It seems to be getting a little better with shows like Atlanta and Insecure being more heavily promoted to white audiences, but there's still a huge promotion gap. White audiences do tend to live in a media bubble that caters to us all the time, so we have to dip out of that matrix sometimes and make the effort to seek out media with other types of stories, casts, etc. I grew up in the south, but we moved north after I got out of highschool (after my parents divorce) and there's plenty of racism up here too unfortunately. So that also determines what some white folks watch, based on their own bias towards other groups of people. There are also the "anti-woke" folks who get bent out of shape if a fictional characer is race swapped. As a comic book fan, as "progressive" as I thought I was, even I was guilty of falling into that mindset myself sometimes. It was only after a fellow comic fan friend of mine, (who is Asian) mentioned that sometimes the only representation non-white folks see, is if a white character is race swapped. Otherwise, characters of color are still woefully underepresented in so much media. But I'm a crabby old comic book lady, who's resistant to change with some of my favorite comic book characters, heh. But for a young black kid walking into a comic shop for the first time, how many black faces will they see on comic covers? Sadly, its still not many. So, representation still matters, and it starts with studios doing a better job of promoting TV and movies that don't revolve around mostly white casts.

I watched literally 3 llf the movies on the thumbnail

How about just marry your best friend?? Women always try to "friend-zone" the men that are usually best for them. Syd moved away from her "best friend" to pursue her career.. Dre never left New York City..🤷🏾‍♂️

Your analysis lacks a class dimension. Usually "black" stories, just like "white stories", are directed and written by rich kids, whatever color they are. And a discussion about the indie movie industry as opposed to the Hollywood industry, art/commerce would have been appropriate.

As a millennial white dude who has watched a lot of TV and movies-seriously, I could probably win an award for watching-I find myself in a unique position when it comes to this conversation. I’ve seen many black films that my family and friends might not even know about, which sometimes makes me feel out of place, like the awkward guy at a party wearing socks with sandals. On top of that, I’m a huge film nerd who loves to read about every aspect of movies. I get excited about things like director commentaries and film theory books-yes, my social life is thrilling in its own way! While I really appreciate stories from different cultures and the perspectives they offer, I know that my background means I can never fully understand the realities they show. I often wonder where I fit into discussions about representation and cultural narratives. My extensive viewing has opened my eyes to important stories, but it also reminds me of the need for real conversations about race and representation in media-something that goes beyond just watching films. So here I am, trying to navigate these discussions like a toddler on roller skates: a little wobbly but determined to keep moving forward!

Black man here: that's a total bs, i have watched so many white movies in my life that it turned into a problem, specially cause in the country that i am right now doesn't have a community as you have in united states. they don't invite us to the party, we just don't have so many options. i watched movies that don't have even only one black person in the intire movie from united states or here. and here in brazil, when you see a nacional movie that have black person, it's a black man with a white woman, a black woman will never be a the main caracter with a black man... the thing is, it's so common here for a black male to say that he don't like black woman at all is terrible... they don't even notice that they have been manipulated by the media... the movies in united states are not that different... you only have those movies with only black people because you have a community. so don't say you must invite the white people to be a main caracter, that's dumb. i don't even agree for a black person to have a kid with a wht person. just shut up about this "respecfully"... there's people who need content for only black people with no white envolved... thank you

I never saw Notting Hill or any episodes of Cheers or Frasier.

It’s all about the white woman with black women smh

There’s a simple solution to the white savior genre- just change the color of the savior.

It’s kind of necessary- if you try to please everyone you’ll please no one.

contary to popular belief only black-men dont watch black movies black women and white folks both watch them

This is ignorant. I don't know any white people who doesn't watch black movies and tv shows.

I'm white and grew up in rural Canada, but had black American neighbours who I hung out with all the time. They'd show me black movies and rap albums, their mom would cook soul food (the best she could with ingredients you could find in Northern Ontario anyway) I never really considered that those weren't typical things for a white person to have experienced until I went to college.

its the same reason black people dont like bluegrass music.

Unfortunately, a lot of people don't understand that situations in movies such has 'The Help', the people who are the center of the story (the help) could not have told their own stories. The same with 'Hidden Figures'. There is history here. The black people in those eras could never have done what they did without white people crossing those Jim Crow/racist boundaries. Very sad, but true. Movies are made for everyone. However, they are aimed for certain demographics. It up to those outside those aimed demographics to watch or not watch.

Here we go with the whiteness

Yes we do

As a white guy, Friday series, all wayans movies, blades, cosby show, fresh prince, sanford and son, richard pryor and katt Williams etc...all great, love and watch them often Any sports movie like coach carter or blind side, anything like the help...nah, unwatchable 😅

I'm a white guy who loved Love & Basketball when it came out (when I was slightly under 25!). I've always thought it was done wrong by its stupid title.

Maybe because I watch a lot of movies, but as long as the movies have good stories and relatable characters, race doesn't matter.

The idea of "mainstream" equals "whiteness" is pretty racist in itself. Mainstream pretty much means stories which resonate to a wide audience. But, stories with a very narrow focus will naturally have a smaller result. Let's look at movies like Bad Boys and The Equalizer. These are movies which movies which focus on the simple act of telling a story rather than pushing a "message". Movies are entertainment and not a social tool.

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I guess I must be an anomaly because I do say "white" movies, like HBCUs and PWI. Movies typically have a culture connected to them. If the culture doesn't include me with a smattering of cultural context, then it is more of an anthropological study for me. You have opened my eyes to oddities in Black films when things do not seem quite right, directed by another culture. Many TV shows only appeal to me if they have someone represented. This is not to say I wouldn't or haven't watched other cultures' movies, whether white, Asian, Latino, or gender diverse. ted.

People like to see themselves and their actual lived experiences and reality reflected onscreen, esp. if you come from a group that has traditionally been marginalized and overlooked. If you're white you see yourself everywhere. If you're 'Asian' or Black you pretty much see yourself nowhere. But remember, movie studios are not in the business of movies to teach or change society or whatever. Like everything the movie industry is about making money. That's why so many Black movies are made by individuals such as Singleton or Spike Lee. The best Black movies are for Black people and by Black people and with the people and culture in the centre with white people on the margins or not there at all.

Actually, in my opinion this is all an artificial issue. This is all about culture and context, and it will differ between indivuals and countries and all in between, and skin color is actually the less important factor in all this. I am an european white guy, all my life I've loved and identified with lots of black characters and personalities in movies and music, just as I did with so many others with all the skin colors and many cultural backgrounds. Some people like some stuff, others don't and like other stuff. Why are people always trying to make every single thing about black vs white. Can we please move on already?? Example of artistic content that I never watch or listen to: gangster rap and the equivalent in movies. You may call me a racist if that's the lens you wish to see me through, but it's all about the culture itself, and theres plenty white people doing it and consuming it. Nothing to do with race. It's the culture. I love many "black shows and black movies" , but I like to watch them just because I like to watch them, its always people reminding me that I am watching "black content"... Wtf, people really are obsessed with this nonsense, i am just watching stuff and listening to music. I am aware of countries and cultural backgrounds, but that's not whats constantly on my mind filtering every little thing... I just want to enjoy things, and I repeat: skin color is the less important factor when I consume entertainment arts.

They know..where do you think they get our vernacular from..?

But why does homosexuality have to be intertwined in this story when on its surface it’s a story regarding society’s stereotypical expectations for Americans of African in media? This is not an accident by the way! This was done purposefully by, ironically enough, by real life Hollywood forces once again trying to influence public opinion & sexual identity politics of the Left! It actually cancels out the point of this story’s tale doesn’t it?

To be honest Sis, I never finished the movie. I found it quiet…boring in the beginning (with the exception to the Tracy Ross…moment 😮). The topic of course was quite important to tackle, but it just didn’t present it in a way I could connect with. I guess I will try again after I hear your analysis 🤔 By the way, I am 58 year old brother (American of Multi generational, multi ethnic African Ancestry-Akan/Yoruba/Mandinka/Mende/ Luhya culture) born in NYC, lived in central & Western Europe and in the American south for the past 18 years. So perhaps my lived experience somehow formed part of my barrier. Not sure 🤔

In Australia, “cultural cringe” has certainly played a part in many Australians failing to consume the domestic arts, particularly cinema. There has long been a preference for audiences to “go with what they know”, which often comes down to a want for comfort and the familiar when taking time out of your real world to view something cinematic. Some of us like to be challenged, most don’t. It’s a sad thing indeed to limit every film out there to assessment through any one singular lens. Explore and discover. Curiosity is kindness.

for me, its about the movie. if the movie is advertised and looks good ill watch it. I dont care what color the people in it are. I watched avatar and world of warcraft where the people are blue and green. I think a lot of black targeted movies dont get as much advertisement. I loved fresh prince when it was on, but who didnt? A lot of the movies you listed I have never heard of. I'm 40 white and in edmonton Canada.