Видео

At time of comment my elo is 1479. This was played somewhere in the 1300s

Haha very true! The knight+siege combo was strong from my opponent. I started having a lot of success with this strategy and have taken it up to 1500 elo, but this and a few of the coming videos show me floundering a bit figuring it out

@@coxandrewj If you're losing, you're learning. If you're winning, you're effectively applying what you've learned. I have to play more ladder, I just don't have the energy at day's end! That said, Romans FC Scorps and Malay Xbows into Heffalumps (Elephants) are being learned on my end!

💯

For fun :)

One of my many mistakes! :)

Incas are so fun. I love the power of Kamayuks to just absolutely shred anything mounted. The only other unit that comes close to countering mounted units so hard is the Genoese crossbow

Thats right. Happy to see Knights getting shredded. I absolutely hate knights especially when they are running around my base 11 Thats why i love camel civs, im 1200 elo and everybody is just spamming knights, almost nobody plays archers, ca, or infantry its such a pain 11

Yeah that sort of leads me to being inexperienced whenever I have to play against archers, since just everyone plays knights. I feel like when I run into archer players I just make bad decisions 11 I’ve also been feeling partial to monk civs lately as a nice counter to knights.

@@coxandrewj Thats why i like to mix it up and play all off the unit types to learn the strengths and weaknesses of each. The gameplay of archers is basically to wall up, mass archers and use timings when your army is superior ( early castle age if you can mass a huge army in feudal and on the way up to castle age & early imp because arbalest beat cavalier but not paladin). Also archer player want to push in one spot and protect the base with walls and castles, so its a good idea to prevent that and raid the archer player to death. Also, massed siege is the last thing an archer player wants to see. 2 mangonels + 2 scorpions is ususlly enouhh to halt any archer push.

Thanks for always watching and supporting me!

Yes, you’re absolutely right about everything. I thought Ghulams would be strong enough to counter archers, but they take too long to mass compared to eagles. I think I’ve learned that skirms are *always* a good idea if your opponent is massing archers. Maybe not if you’re Turks I guess lol but still always a good choice

It's a fairly interesting matchup to me. I think Britons have to really put the pressure on early imp in this matchup for arbalest timing. That's sort of unintuitive as Britons generally want to get the game as late as possible for super long range archers and Warwolf trebs, but Incan eagles with 10 pierce armor are better against archers than even Mayan eagles! (60 shots to kill 1 Incan eagle vs 50 shots to kill 1 Mayan eagle). If I get fabric shields, elite eagle, and all the armors, I think the Briton's player is out of options. Thanks for watching as always!

Completely agree. Mass fully elite eagles with Incas is one of the worst things for archer civs. He waited too long to make something happen indeed

100%

Thank you. 1400 elo is interesting. It feels like our micro is decent, our macro is decent, our build orders and idle tc are good… But, our game sense and decision making just aren’t quite there. In this case, my opponent makes war wagons and monks as his units of choice. The problem is, camel archers counter both of those, with bonus damage against war wagons, and ranged units in general are good against monks. And it’s been the case all too often that I just pick the wrong units to counter my opponents as well

Glad you liked it!

Finally the drush into fast castle worked with Incas. And absolutely, I felt like I was being suffocated slowly

It’s… a work in progress lol. It’s meant to be a 27+2 drush into fast castle.

Thank you!

And even more savage when you do whatever I was doing hahaha

I've reflected a lot on this, and I think I just needed to go skirms. I know that Celts miss bracer, but even so, they should beat Bohemian hand cannons. Lesson learned from this is: skirms are *always* a hard counter to hand cannons. I tried it even with Franks, Burmese, and Turks, who have the worst skirms in the game, and still they trade really well against hand cannons In other words, I only blame myself

@@coxandrewjI played against the Byz as Bohemians and got steamrolled by skirmishers when I went full on gunpowder units. Didn’t help that the opponent micro’d well against my mangoes… didn’t help that they also went rams… it helped that I got murderholes… in your case, you walled off earlier and better than you usually do! That siege exchange around the midway mark was epic! Nice micro on both your parts

@@risendragongames Byzantines - Bohemians is one of the most interesting civ matchups in the game. What you can do is add redemption monks to deal with the enemy mangonels so you can keep your wagons alive. But even so, both civs have a lot of tools to deal with what the other civ has. Very fun in my opinion

It's proven rather difficult to get good at drushing. Fighting in Feudal is easy in my mind, but managing dark age eco and fighting is so hard for some reason haha

Yeah that's a fair point, I've simply never tried to do so!

@28:05!! 👍🏻

Thank you for the kind words Ken! It's funny, last time I played Mayans I was trying this strategy out for the first time-- 1 range archers into early stone into plumeds, but that was against Mongol Steppe Lancers. And it felt like my archers weren't doing anything against them. It's seriously the only reason I stopped playing Mayans and started playing Incas, because Kamayuks are so good against Steppe Lancers

I guess just like everything, there are pros and cons to a strategy. That strategy for the Mayans might work for many civilizations, but harder against Steppe Lancers lol whatever the reason, I enjoy seeing you play as the Mayans (any civilization really), but definitely the Mayans first haha

Yeah it’s sort of an interesting balancing act. Trying new things obviously has a learning curve, but also is a nice change of pace. practicing the same thing over can lead to burn out, but you will get better at it

@@coxandrewj thank you for the encouragement, as always! Glad to have a cheerleader; I may not have the experience with AoE that you do, but you deserve the same encouragement you give me.

This game is all about decision making, and I think I made the wrong decision. I should have gone Onager/Halb or Onager/Kamayuk to win this match. I also think just going straight elite eagle would have done okay, as they have 10 pierce armor compared to the kamayuk's 6, have bonus damage against siege, and move faster. But the trebs really put pressure on you early imp where you stop thinking straight and get concerned about losing your base. Khmer are an amazing civ. They've got everything going for them right now. And if you get raided, you just jump in a house and you can never lose villagers. They also have an incredible fast castle into knights build that would be killer at your elo

@@coxandrewjfair points. Onagers wouldn’t have done anything against the trebuchets though. You seemed to commit to pikes very early, I kinda feel against Khmer, people have to play aggressive in Feudal. At my ELO, yes a Khmer fast knights strat would work if I can get the deer pushing down 😂.

To be fair, Huns probably don't need any sympathy with how powerful of a civ they are haha. I've been playing Incas as a sort of meta-civ-pick killer. With Franks, Persians, Magyars, Huns as popular as they are, Incas are a good answer to them.

I think it’s more important to make your army comp based on the unit you want to go for / your civs power unit, and then add a second unit to deal with the counters. As a natural and easy to understand example, Franks want to make knights, obviously. Their civ is all about cavalry. The problem is that Halbs/pikes counter that comp. So you’re given the Franks unique unit, the throwing axe man, which is especially good as an anti-infantry unit. Or with an archer civ, you’ll probably make lots of archers along with Halbs to fight knights since that’s where archers can fail. And infantry civs with either skirms or siege, to deal with ranged units that could kill infantry. Of course, you probably know most of this, but it’s a lot easier to think “what’s my power unit? What unit can I make to fight my power units counter?” Than it is to think “okay, my civ is this, and my opponent gets this and could go for x and y, so I’ll have to go for i and j” because otherwise you could end up spending lots of time trying to memorize tech trees and unique units.

The last little bit makes me want to add- it’s also important to learn the counters of a few unique units at least. For example, Khmer Ballista elephants take bonus damage from siege! Or Korean War wagons and Bengali Ratha take bonus damage from skirmishers. Those are some weird ones that are good to know. A few others like Janissaries are weak to skirmishers, Byzantine cataphracts are weak against archers but do rather well against pikes, and a few others I can’t think of rn

@@coxandrewjyeah those are very good to know! As someone learning the Khmer and as someone who’s gravitated toward infantry rushes, great info!

😮‍💨got the w though. Had a good start and those 5 relics won me the game

@ they did. Lol the whole time towards the end when op started spamming Skrims I was yelling scorpion

Especially on gold rush. My opponent got to the middle and that was pretty much game over