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Babylon is a true view into cinema and past actors. And this is the best scene in the entire movie. Cinema involves, even Brad Pitt will be forgotten in the next decades, as many others. New actors will rise, cinema will change again. But through those movies they left us behind they'll always remain in our memories and hearts. No one is eternal. But actors, painters, singers live forever through their art.
What is even more said is that most of the silent films from that era are lost or destroyed, so there is a good chance no one would have remembered Jack or even Nellie.
90 per cent of all films silent and otherwise before the 1950s have been lost. Easy to believe that most of Jack Conrad’s films could have been lost forever.
100 years from now when some jagoff at a stop light feeds a thread through a youtube video when he should be watching the fucking light...youll be alive again!
"Thank you for that".....shit hit me deep. Sometimes you need to hear some shit you absolutely dont wanna hear.
the dialogoue sounds 1984 orwellian except every new star is different just go through the history of afi greatest actors and each actor means something different.
The monologue is perfect. The way he walks away and pauses, like he knows he wants to say it, but it’s such an extreme emotional flip from how he felt walking in. But he says it, “thank you for that” without even looking or putting any energy into it. He knows that she’s right and he can barely stand it. But so many others would’ve probably lied to him to make him feel better. But she didn’t. He walks away, still feeling defeated but at least enlightened. And she doesn’t pay any mind at all. Back to the deadline so she can remain relevant while she can, because she knows that unlike him, this is all she’ll ever have.
heavy shit!
So she’s pretty much comparing him to a dinosaur…something that can’t adapt. I don’t buy it. He could have. Humans were made with the natural instinct to adapt and survive. It can be dangerous to accept someone else’s opinion of you. Charlie Chaplin was a perfect example of moving from silent to talkies and was good. Critics are harsh and at the same time they are not in the arena. I wish they gave jack more of a fight before he made his decision
I'm so tired of these dreary shitty depressing movies.
Hollywood aggrandizing itself. No, you will not be remembered for what you were, but for the roles you played. Intelligent people can differentiate between art and reality
Good scene poor Conrad ❤❤❤❤❤
Grande filme e interpretação de Brad Pitt 🎉❤
i feel she's responsible for his death, just based on this conversation. He could have continued to live a 'normal' life... like many actors do. Very dramatic.
I always love and admire Brad for bringing us entertainment that always shines with beauty that I always love ❤️ 😊🔥💯✨️😇🙏🫶🙌😉👏😘
jack taste reality and it hurts
this movie was better than the critics said
Is it me or does Brad Pitt look like he could play Johnny Depp’s brother?
The entire film given time will be seen as a classic. Movie history is crammed full of box office bombs that in hindsight are seen for the magic they each portray. Babylon will join them. Truly moving film capturing a time of huge change in an industry that now nearly a century later is barely clinging on.... cannot praise this 3 hour masterwork to highly in my opinion.
Born , raise to the spolight , fame fade away , be remember by later generations. it is called "Cycle of Life" art always larger than artist , style always longer than fashion , love always deeper than sex this scene very connect and real
This is a nice existential line. The essence of the thing you do is bigger than you and the universe is immaculately bigger than that. Human civilization could disappear and the universe could care less about "cinema" let alone a Jack Conrad or any celebrity. And even if there was some sizable significance, it'll have to age and die while seeing multitudes of generation show what you thought was original and everlasting was just another repeat in an endless cycle. Ultimately nothing matters. Jesus doesn't matter. He's just another iteration of the archetype of the mortal-god incarnation in myth. It was appropriate for Conrad to die. He was the most convinced of his existential importance. The drop down to reality of existence was more harrowing than for normal folk.
The movie with Sidney doing black face, this scene, and a couple other scenes were amazing they left me stunned and I loved it
this is the only good scene with the great actress Jean Smart , the rest is BOMBASTIC VOMIT THAT'S SO NOT A FELLINI ! ELEPHANT CRAP THAT COST $110 mill and grossed $63 mill. Not a tribute to cinema or a cautionary tale or historically accurate or anything just complete GARBAGE ! I can only guess how much they paid a stellar cast and how no one read the probably non exsistent screenplay. I have no axe to grind, I liked La La Land and some of his other films. Maybe it was the drugs ? Go watch Sunset Boulvevard (Billy Wilder) 8 1/2 (Fredrico Fellini), Metropolis (Fritz Lang), Modern Times (Charlie Chaplin), Sullivan's Travels (Preston Sturges), LA Confidential (Curtis Hanson), to get a much better feel about movie making and Hollywood
Jean Smart is such a powerhouse, she easily plays him to the wall in this scene.
What's so good about this scene is that it's applicable to anyone who takes their job or career seriously, has sacrificed, put in the work, provided solutions, moved forward and survived the politics of their field. To have that sudden pit open in your stomach when you realize that your time has passed leaves one wobbly and alone. Life beats us up , then leaves us behind.
I do not believe actors are as stupid as portrayed here unless they are pathological narcissists. Intelligent people understand the realities of the situation. Many are very rich, so they have good reasons to think they are above the rest
That was real. Just a few made true the transition. It was like radio to TV or TV to movies or radio 📻 to video clip. So many said the same words" this is temporary, won't last " and it did but they didn't
Wow. There's so much wrong with this pretentious hogwash, where to begin? What's with the distracting phony accent? They didn't wear leather jackets like the one he's wearing for thirty more years. "Gossip columnists" weren't "powerful" for at least a decade or more later. Most everything they are, or referring to, alluding to in the future, was just in the process of being invented, so the assumption of "fifty years from now" is ludicrous, especially for a product designed to be disposable. The vast majority of early films were thrown away after their initial run, which is why they no longer exist. No conversation like this would have ever happen, nor would it happen today. How dumb do they think the audience is? F -
I watched this movie twice. Loved it both times. First time I watched it, the euphoria of the beginning was my favorite part, and what left a stronger impact on me after. Second time, it was moments like these in the finale, that hit me there hardest. Such a phenomenal movie. Gotta rewatch it periodically.
This scene was so powerful I could smell the leather, tobacco, and a lingering whisky smell! Unbelievable scene 🎬
She is exactly right.
Just incredible
this movie is criminally underrated
Indeed, Ike
Better buy a copy of it. Cause the director was young, made 3 bangers and countless oscars.....still got put in hollywood jail
She wasn’t being mean to him, she was just telling things in her article the way they are.
Thats funny, cause i remember watching this in the cinema and think "this is just too much and way to selfindulgent", but watching it again i appreciate the visiual cues in their conversation, but i still cant help but think the point is being shoved down our throat
in this scene , shes not talking to the character , shes talking to Brad Pitt.
Why do you say so ? ... Brad Pitt is still a Huge star and is adored here in France ❤
Me da mucha pena esta escena !
This was filmed in the Moroccan Room of the Castle Green in Pasadena. 👌
This is definitely the turning point for me at least where I began to be interested, I had lost interest long before this scene, but right around this point in the film it picked up and I actually enjoyed it a lot. Best film I’ve seen in years.
I agree.
Well, you must have really liked what came next cause this scene was about 2 hours in
ALL TRUE. 🎈📌
I wonder if anybody caught the meta- textual narrative of her message. Brad Pitt is jack conroy! He thought that the house (Hollywood) needed him, being a 90’s Herculean heartthrob and an s-tier a-lister throughout the past 3 decades. However, moving into the 2020’s as his looks slowly begin to fade and new blue chip prospects are burgeoning into the Hollywood scene looking to carve a new for themselves, Pitt’s overall star power/ mainstream appeal is waning as he is fading into obscurity. Myself (being the child mentioned in this clip, will always hold a special place for Brad Pitt in his heart, having lived vicariously through his on-screen experiences throughout my adolescent/ teenage years! Perchance, I may be sitting where he is sitting having the same exact talk with her in 20 years?
Not exactly. Bras Pitt adopted himself into new Era of filmmaking and won best actor award very recently. Jack Conrad was immune to the change and couldn't adapt himself, he left his wife who tried to teach him new nuances in acting from theatre but he rejected it. There is somewhat similar premise in once upon a time in Hollywood with one important difference, though there is a rough patch of transition from previous era for artists, they will get through if they have an open mind like the gates opened in OUTIH. In Babylon, it was outright pessimistic, the filmmaker took the rise and fall skeleton of boogie nights which didn't work in this premise (At least not for me). I think that is one of the reasons why this movie had such polarization among the viewers, or else the movie was not that bad.
It's funny that this movie bombed cause they didn't know how to market it other than show random action scenes that hurt the eye and Margit Robbie overacting
Fire the focus puller on this … it keeps jumping too soft on Brad even her as the cam moves …. Why is that ?
I think i see why actors were not allowed whrn u see what Hollywood is about, but dogs??
Take this scene and pair it with the parable of the organ grinder’s monkey scene from Mank, and you’ve got the Hollywood machine in a nutshell.
yeah this film will only grow and grow in appreciation as years pass by. a modern cult classic. chazelle made one hell of a movie!
1 of only 2 good scenes in this movie.
Wonderfully written dialogue/monologue both of them played so well, Jean Smart's delivery is just pure master class acting.
No wonder it was 3hrs long she said the same thing ten times in a row haha
Doesn't matter, a masterfully delivered brilliantly written monologue, this is the best possible way for the Conrad character's demise to be explained. Long enough to be profound and padded out enough to make anybody who is too wrapped up in themselves to question some serious things in their life.
...this is the best scene?
Yes, it basically sums up the entire point of the movie. Hollywood is a beast that swallows you whole and shits you out the other end eventually, no matter how good or iconic you are you will always fall from grace, there are TONS of real world examples of this.
"Your time today is through, but you'll spend eternity with angels and ghosts." This is THE line of the entire movie. Hauntingly beautiful.
I don't think she actually believes it when she says that he'll spend eternity with angels and ghosts. She was being kind in that respect.
@@weirdshibainu I think she did mean it. I think she felt sorry for him that he couldn't see it because in truth he was far likelier to be remembered than her. She writes about the cinema. He *is* cinema. Ernest Becker talks about the will to heroism, this innate human drive to perform deeds of heroism for which we will be remembered -- a form of immortality. Soldiering is a literal example. No Marine ever truly dies so long as the Corps endures -- like that. Conrad played hero on the screen. His feats of "heroism" would always outlive him whether he died then or decades later. Conrad's tragedy is that he put his fidelity to the cinema above anyone who might have loved or cared for him regardless, only to be cast aside like an aged mistress for newer, younger emergent heroes. He was genuinely grateful for her candor and her prompt return to her work was not an indication of insincerity. They both know: The show must go on.
@@leviathanmg Does it matter what she thinks? Is what she thinks the truth of the matter? I don't think so
@@gdiwolverinemale4th Truth is irrelevant here. What she said mattered to Conrad. It doesn't have to matter to us as the viewers, nor do we have to believe it. The sentiment is what Conrad is grateful for. Even if he thinks she's bullshitting, the fact that she even took the time is, for him, a gesture of kindness. It may have even had the unintentional effect of helping him make a decision about whether or not to go on living since, per her words, he would never die in the figurative sense -- being lost in time, forgotten -- so long as his movies were preserved for future generations.
@@leviathanmg I agree with you on that one. I think this conversation was a big part of Jack making the decision he made. She told him the truth, as she saw it; that his career is dead, that NOTHING he does in the here and now will change that. That the machine will forget him and move on with nary a backward glance... And that his films will let him live forever... Why stick around to endure coming lean times, when he can trade it in for his pending immortality in the hearts & minds of his audience?