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You can download it on pdfcoffee.

Too perfect - I've become obsessed with it☺

Sorry, I forgot where I got it It's been a while..

@@tatsuhelma can you share the pdf? thank you

love that

Indeed.....for once I agree with you......BRAVO from Mexico City!

First of all, I'm not the one who performed this, but I'm just the one who posts score video. This recording was recorded by Geoffrey Burleson. I've never heard of some of those composers you‘ve mentioned, so thank you for recommending hidden gems. I'll try to upload the works of Armenian composers as well.

Same here

Sorry to be pedantic. You just remarked on it. In general I like vp's textural clarity. Vague comment I know, but that's my impression from the little I've heard of his stuff

I'm sorry but what do you mean by V.P?

vincent persichetti @@senortenpiedad8515

whatever you want to say about this piece, his work as a theorist is absolutely remarkable. Good stuff

Sorry man, but you bombed that joke

Oh, I forgot it… Thanks!!

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I'm curious... why don't you think it is a good composition, and why does it leave you feeling annoyed, irked, and impotent?

Happy to try my best to elaborate. It will take me a little time to put together and point out examples beyond explaining a bit more in detail those overall feelings originally mentioned. I will be fairly busy the next week, so hopefully will be able to answer in more detail in the next 10 days or so. To explain just briefly those feelings which I expressed, or an example which evokes those similar feelings that the piece did, would be those dreams one has where you are trying to reach something or say something, but for whatever reason as hard as you try you cannot actualize your intention. Nothing seems amiss, you are not missing your tongue so you cant speak, your hands are not bound so that you can not handle the object or puzzle which you are trying to put together in some way, but as hard as you try with seemingly nothing wrong, you are impotent, more and more annoyed and irked. In the most general sense regarding the piece, that is not the musical elements in and of themselves, the high piano technique, beautiful at times and interesting harmonies, use of wide ranges of register and dynamics and so on, but in the overall combination of these elements to achieve a higher goal, a common phrase the whole is greater than the sum total of parts, I find myself highly frustrated. That the piece like in those dreams mentioned above, cannot say anything, cannot achieve what it is reaching for, if it even knows what it is reaching for. That the combination of these elements does not achieve a greater weight than the sum total of those elements. It will take a little time to point out specific musical examples, I will try soon to write again and hope this is somewhat clear, what do you think? Thanks for your curiosity and look forward to further discussion.@@MJE112358132134

@@andrewtrovato1828Thanks for your reply, Andrew. I find your comments interesting, yet quite baffling, as I don't think I've ever heard any piece of music that gave me a feeling like the dreams you mention where you want to do something, but can't, even though there is no reason visible why you can't. I'm not sure I've had that kind of dream, either, so that does perhaps make it very hard to feel what you mean. Another thing you mention was the idea of something being more than the sum of its parts - so you feel that York Bowen's sonata may have many good parts, but they don't add up to more than the sum of them - presumably in contrast with music you would consider truly great, which I assume you would find to be more than the sum of its parts. While I intellectually uinderstand what you mean by that, I'm not sure I can feel it, though. I am able to enjoy quite a few styles of music and I can often get as much enjoyment from some pieces by totally obscures composers, therefore probably ones not many would consider to be great, as I can from indisputably great music by one of the handful of composers everyone informed in classical muisc would consider great. Yet I've never really felt that a prominent feature of music, great or not so great, is the question of whether it is greater than the sum of its parts. While I intellectually understand the concept, I am not actually able to apply it to music, because music doesn't seem to strike me that way. I have tended to make a speciality of exploring very little-known composers, which was probably inspired in my late teens by my regular habit of visiting shops that sold second-hand music, and going through the stacks, and pulling out and buying anything that looked interesting. Used music was very cheap in those days, so I was able to acquire many hundreds of items of sheet music, mostly by unknown composers, yet being music I found satisfying to paly. York Bowen was one of many composers I discovered in this way, and I was immediately attracted to his style of lush romanticism. It didn't include piano sonatas, but mainly shorter pieces, often of the sort that seem intended for advanced students. I'm not sure if this really illuminates the way I appreciate music, but it certainly does explain why I had a bias toward little known composers. If, as you say, you may have further comments when you have the time, it might possibly inspire me to say some more. MIchael Edwards. (If you ever see music comments by a Michael Edwards followed by a number, that's me also. I seem to have acquired two RUclips identities, without ever intending to, and it seems I have used the two at different times, almost indiscriminately. The one in use now is my initials followed by the start of the Fibonacci series. I think it comes down to which e-mail account I have checked most recently.)

Great to see your response! And I am very glad there are people like you and others here who are always exploring new and lesser known composers! I will try to address or elucidate my points with musical examples from the Bowen sonata itself in the coming days. I recently spent all of my musical energy highlighting some thoughts in a new composers piece on his channel which was pretty long and I am spent (what am I doing starting to write in these comment sections so much!!). But anyways I have some examples from the sonata in mind and further thoughts which I think may explain my thinking more clearly, hopefully by end of week I will get it all together in another comment. Still playing piano? Best, Andrew Trovato @@MJE112358132134

@@andrewtrovato1828 -- It's not only that you are Frustrated and Importnet....you are a Carrier of Frustration and Impotence!.....worse than being Miserable, you are a Carrier of Misery. I'm not saying that you're an Idiot....only that you suffer from Idiocy, a potentially curable affliction. Cheers from Mexico!