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Sawmill River Productions - Dorothy Taubman
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This channel is dedicated to the work of Dorothy Taubman. As the creator, producer and editor of "Choreography of the Hands" featuring Dorothy Taubman's work with piano artists, I knew Dorothy for many years. "Choreography of the Hands" was my first film and was originally released in 1985. Dorothy recently passed away at the age of 95.
Part 1--Choreography of the Hands: The Work of Dorothy Taubman
A documentary describing the work of renowned piano teacher Dorothy Taubman, famous for her rehabilitation of injured musicians. It has been used for many years by the Taubman Institute of Piano to introduce students to Taubman's work. Purchased by hundreds of pianists, it has also been acquired by music libraries and schools of music around the world.
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Part 2--Choreography of the Hands: The Work of Dorothy Taubman
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"No serious musician interested in the essential relationship between physical and artistic elements in performance can afford to ignore Dorothy Taubman's illuminating and revolutionary discoveries." Peter Takacs, Oberlin College Conservatory of Music
Part 3 -- Choreograph of the Hands: The Work of Dorothy Taubman
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"No serious musician interested in the essential relationship between physical and artistic elements in performance can afford to ignore Dorothy Taubman's illuminating and revolutionary discoveries." Peter Takacs, Oberlin College Conservatory of Music Reviews "Producer-director Ernest Urvater is to be congratulated for this fine documentary providing an introduction to the far-reaching work of ...
Part 4--Choreography of the Hands: The Work of Dorothy Taubman
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A documentary describing the work of renowned piano teacher Dorothy Taubman, famous for her rehabilitation of injured musicians. It has been used for many years by the Taubman Institute of Piano to introduce students to Taubman's work. Purchased by hundreds of pianists, it has also been acquired by music libraries and schools of music around the world. "No serious musician interested in the ess...
This technique kills the traditional culture and colours in classical music. Endurance is necessary and just like a working out, people that get injured do get injured because they do not build up their endurance, not because the piano technique that was built over centuries and centuries to achieve certain kind of sound, colour, phrase, pulse and character that was approved and developed by Czerny Beethoven Liszt Chopin were wrong. They did those movements because it was necessary for achieveing the right colour and sense.
Qué vieja divina la Tauban
I have the exact same problem as Robert shannon the guy talking at 9:00 i wish he would reveal what she told me to correct his movement and not experience pain anymore, could someone enlighten me ?
The pain he refers to is in the ulnar nerve which can become irritated by habitual ulnar deviation (the hand is twisted outwards). Taubman technique is very good at solving this problem by realigning the hand so that the 5th finger is in a straight line from the elbow with no kink at the wrist (this is why she says no 4th finger on black notes - which is extremely limiting but can avoid (not solve) specific problems,) and relaxing any tension in the forearm by insisting on rotation only to play every note. Taubman technique is a bit like an elimination diet - it's an extreme elimination of movement and forced relaxation of certain parts of the arm and hand which will fix certain problems but in the end risks limiting the technique of the player.
As a rule never the fourth on the black key!❤
Whaaaaat. I nevef heard this before. Tobias Matthay snd others have good ideas aboutscale fingering and blackkey before and after in each hsnd.F fingers! but I say the wrist prepares fingers better than any finger science!
Ooohhh, I like her!! What a treat it is to watch her teach! I just started teaching children group piano and they’re on these roll up pianos that are not great, but it’s what I’ve been given as materials. I really want to help them improve their technique and get used to playing healthily. I’ll be studying dear Ms. Taubman’s technique for my students sake and my own!
Found this while trying to start my piano learning journey. Thank god i found this before i basically started. Also, this is such an amazing example of a teacher, everyone should watch this documentary. Rip Dorothy.
Aula imperdivel excelente!
Por favor traducción al español para que las personas de habla hispana tengamos acceso a este conocimiento, gracias
Robert Schumann could have used the Taubman Approach before he messed up his 4th finger.
Does anyone know whose and what piece was playing at track 0.59 or 1:00?
Hayden piano sonata 23 I guess
Спасибо
Drop the same object several times and gravity will always land it at the same speed. If you want it to land faster, external force will be needed. Her principle is Intuitive but false, at least incomplete.
My hands are fine, it's my back that's killing me.
It can solve that as well!
That Haydn piano sonata fragment from 1:00 to 1:27 sounds simply SUBLIME!
Glad to know it's by Haydn. Can you tell me which number or key?
@@minhnguyen1908 Sonata in F major, H. XVI:23.
Thanks for the infos. It will now be in my " must learn" list
I spent an entire semester on it 40 years ago and what i hesrd sounded like nothing i remembered till the Fmajor recap sounded. Ive got to go look at the score: it was never this brilliant and virtuosic to me and i played it all short staccato notes. So much i still don't know.
Interesting...
I studied this approach for a while. About four years to be exact. The only thing, in my case, I found it limiting and the grouping of the notes, rotation, etc, while it might be a healthier approach for most, in my case it affected the overall sound and interpretation. I no longer sounded like myself playing.
3:30 Love the melody here, makes me happy like Christmas!
Brilliant documentary, thank you for sharing. Dorothy’s teaching and personality are absolutely inspiring!
There is hope!!!! Thanks
I would have loved to have her as my teacher.
What are the names of the piano students featured in this video'?
Why no sound?
I found nothing wrong with the sound when I tried it, and I spot checked throughout the 15 minutes of Part 1. Is it possible that your own sound settings are not set properly, or your volume is set to zero?
Made me well up, stunning lessons, beautiful...
Just stop play, these people wouldn’t have a concert career anyway.
What a thoughtless comment.
You're a wonker.
Napoleon Dynamite has fantastic hand skills.
this is awesome i need to learn more about this.
Loved every moment of five years as her pupil- loved her.
Excellent teacher!
I don't understand "teachers" who swing their arms to conduct and sing along with the player. What is that supposed to accomplish?
jaspernatchez if you ever went to school for music, even piano performance, you would understand. Often, it gives the student a visual as to how the teacher wants the student to play a phrase. Conducting and singing is also mandatory for ALL music majors... Old habits never die in music.
It's very helpful in making the student understand the spirit of the music and it also loosens them up because it's hard to be nervous or embarrassed when you're next to someone who's waving their arms around and singing.
2:55 Is she wearing her glasses upside down? :D
what a marvelous and interesting woman she was may she rest in peace, i wish i could find a teacher like her I literally have learned so much in these videos than hours of courses or lessons.
Which is correct 4th finger or 5th finger on black key?
both are
I wish there were a Dorothy Taubman for the harp. :-( I've just about resigned myself to having to work out the application of forearm rotation on that instrument for myself.
Hi Janis: you might try getting in touch with the Golandsky Institute (www.golandskyinstitute.org/teachers/) They work with instrumentalists of all kinds utilizing Taubman's ideas and have been quite successful applying her approach to other instruments.
I'd very much like to, but I'm not a conservatory kid or a professional. I'm a lifelong adult amateur pianist with some childhood training who has begun to play harp and has discovered that everything you AREN'T supposed to do on the piano you are instructed to do on the harp. And ... well, it hurts. And it worries me that so many harpists seem to be injured or have had surgeries on their hands and shoulders, and that I was an autodidact for two years without pain, but now that I'm taking more rigorous classical lessons, suddenly my hands hurt. The whole technique on the instrument appears to be designed specifically to damage the hands. :-( Being trained as a physicist, I'm willing to just start from first principles (forearm rotation) on my own, and while it would be nice to have some guidance, I am nowhere NEAR the level of virtuosity that would qualify me to talk to the Golandsky Institute.
I'm not sure your virtuosity matters here--you're hurting and you need help. I don't know anything about the technique of playing the harp. the question seems to me to be: is there a way to play the harp that doesn't injure the body. Golandsky's people are very good at analyzing movement. Maybe they won't be able to help you--but I'd say its worth a try. I don't know how much of Choreography you've watched, but there is a segment, I think in Part 3, with a flutist. Dorothy tells the camera how she'd never worked with a flutist before, but was able to help figure out the movements. That's what I'd hope for in your case.
So good teacher !!!
This type of knowledge should be mandatory in piano education, so everybody learn it. And all teachers became aware it. I had a teacher that did not even know that rotation was a basic movement in piano playing. He was not aware of it. I experienced pain, and just two days after beginning with rotational movements in my arm my playing became much more fluid, and less painful.
what's the piece at the very start of the video?
Liszt--Variations on a Theme by Paganini
bravo!:) @0:43
-_- learned more from these 15 min vids then 5 year piano lessons
Painfully accurate
was she wearing her glasses upside-down in the beginning?
Luka Puka that was the style back in the day. i won't be surprise if it comes back in style. fashion does repeat itself.
very true
People looked hideous back then. WTH were they thinking?
@@lightball1414 People look even more hideous in 2023...
What is the song at 3:08 please?
I believe it is Minute Waltz, by Milton Babbitt
Falcone!
I would love to see Dorothy Taubman demonstrate by actually playing the passages or pieces she teaches with such vigor. Was Taubman actually able to play the works she teaches? I hear her students claim that she had such a grasp on movement and piano playing, then I expect her to be able to play. Thank God my teachers could. If I was playing the Chopin Scherzi, my teacher could play them all, as she did playing and recording all the 32 Beethoven piano sonatas.
This is about the students, not the teacher. Is like if you ask a sport coach if he could play as well as the players. Is NOT necesary, even if they can. Actually there're plenty of them that never develope themself in the highest level but are models as coaches.
I would love to see Dorothy Taubman demonstrate by actually playing the passages or pieces she teaches with such vigor. Was Taubman actually able to play the works she teaches? I hear her students claim that she had such a grasp on movement and piano playing, then I expect her to be able to play. Thank God my teachers could. If I was playing the Chopin Scherzi, my teacher could play them all, as she did playing and recording all the 32 Beethoven piano sonatas.
Yes, Mephisto Waltz by Liszt.
Anybody know the song at 9:47?
Liszt, mephisto waltz no.1
10:05 Every teachers' drug
1:28 Beethoven??
+Tore Bordal No, it is the Haydn Sonata in F major Hob. XVI 23 - I. Allegro moderato.
Hehe yeah, but didn't it remind you a lot of his 23rd sonata, first movement, one of the middle parts?
the audio sucks so hard it's almost unbearable listening with headphones. But yeah, the good ol days, huh? It is a pedagogical gem nevertheless! Thank you almighty google-algorithms y3
does anyone else have problems with the sound of this video??
Check out 6:30 for a very valuable statement.
I had to repeat that segment literally dozens of times before I understood its application. It hit me so hard I'm amazed.