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The tragedy is that nobody mentions the Albanians and their ancestors, their heritage. They were the first civilization in Europe. After that came the Greek and Macedonians whatever. The Albanians had the biggest impact on everybody's culture around them until the Slavs and Turks came and destroyed what was left of Iliria. But let the other folks celebrate theirselfs 🎉😂

What would be appropriate is for Dr. Plantzos to refer to the Bulgarian-speaking Slavs of North "Macedonia" as Bulgarians, not Macedonians. They are, after all, a modern political creation of communist Yugoslavia. The late 19th century movement of a Bulgarian "Macedonia" does not change the fact that Slavic "Macedonian" ethnicity is a modern, mid-20th century construct. Macedonians were and still are very much Greeks. History, archaeology and language all attest to this.

"Issa" is one translation of the name "Jesus". Making the speaker "Prof. Islam Jesus", so to speak.

When will the second volume of Venizelos be published?

Who is George Huxley that he won't even show his face?

Had the most amazing day, lots to learn, very well explained, lots of interaction and projects, well done ❤

τα παντα ειναι φεικ της μαιμους εννοειτε

οι τουρκοι στελνανε τους γαλλους στης θεσεις των ελληνων για να δουνε τι παιζει και μετα πηγαινανε στον τουρκο και καρφωνανε και γιαυτο φυσικα τους κανανε ηρωες αλιμονο ενω τους ηρωες τους πεταξανε στης φυλακες κτλ κτλ κτλ

δεν υπηρχανε οι λεγομενοι φιλελληνες ολοι ητανε πρακτορες η ερχοτανε για ιδιοτελης σκοπους και προπαντος οι γαλλοι ολοι αυτοι ητανε σταλμενοι επι σκοπων και κατα σκοπων/απο την μια οι γαλλοι με τους τουρκους και τους εβραιους πολιορκουσανε το μεσολογγι και απο την αλλη βοηθουσανε τους ελληνες? αστεια πραγματα οπως και η ναυμαχια του ναυαρινου εγινε για να σωθει η ελλαδα? αστεια πραγματα απλως δεν συνεφερε στους δυτικους ο τουρκος να εγκατασταθη περισοτερο στην ευρωπη δηλ στην ουσια οι ελληνες ξυπνησανε τους δυτικους για να αναλαβουνε δραση διοτι μεχρι τοτε ακουγανε τουρκος και χεζανε τα βρακια τους αλλα μετα την ιστορια η μαιμου την εγραψε οπως ηθελε αντι να πουνε οι ελληνες σωσανε ξανα και ξανα και ξανα την δυση γραψανε το αντιθετο και φυσικα με το αζημιωτο εννοειτε/ απο που τα ξερω αυτα? ενα πουλακι μου το ειπε

λαθος....οχι 101% αλλα 100000001%

και αυτος ητανε σταλμενος πρακτορας του ακρεμαστου 101%βεβαιο

There is a very dramatic reading of Simone Weil's 1939 essay 'The Iliad, or the Poem of Force' by Simona Giurgia on RUclips. Don't understand all of it, but it makes an impression.

Thanks for this. Had read/seen/heard some of the works referred to but this has encouraged me to read/watch/hear others. I am impressed that Edith Hall, despite Classics being her day job, retains sufficient enthusiasm for the subject to read and watch all these modern reworkings of the Trojan War related stories in what I assume is her spare time. I don't necessarily want to go home from work to read a novel or see a film about the job I do in the daytime! Watched part of the film 'Troy' but gave up. Really liked Natalie Haynes' One Thousand Ships about women and goddesses connected to the Trojan War, including Calliope the Muse of Epic Poetry's complaints about Homer. Surprisingly, Helen of Troy has little part in that book. Ms Haynes said in an interview that she had intended to give Helen a larger role but found for some reason writing Helen just did not 'work' for her. Have bought the Audiobooks of Natalie Haynes stands up for the Classics and like them. I loved Madeline Miller's 'Circe', especially Circe's descent into the sea near the end to meet a god of the Deep, which I don't think is in any Ancient myth and is Ms Miller's own invention. However, I found it sad that in that novel Odysseus goes bad at the end, after all the time that Penelope had waited hoping for his return. Madeline Miller's 'Song of Achilles' I found hard to fully believe the way that the ruthless city-sacking killers and enslavers of the Iliad, Achilles and Patroclus, were softened as characters to make them appeal to a modern audience, even if Patroclus especially could even in the Iliad switch to a kinder mode off the battlefield. I am interested that from what Professor Edith Hall says in this talk that I am not the only person to have wondered about the way that in Book 9 of the Iliad Homer emphasizes that; although sharing the same room of a hut at night, Achilles and Patroclus sleep apart, each with a slave girl concubine. Was Homer, who, unusually for Ancient Greek literature, never mentions homosexuality, trying to scotch rumours, that we know existed later, that Achilles and Patroclus were lovers, by emphasising their heterosexuality? Pat Barker's Silence of the Girls, by contrast, if anything possibly slightly exaggerates the cruelty of the Trojan War. Given that slaves were valuable property, it was not usually in a master's self-interest to massacre potential slaves, nor to treat slaves so badly as to leave them so damaged in mind or body that they lost their usefulness. However, I am sure the treatment of conquered enemies and their families usually was very harsh. Ms Barker's Silence of the Girls contains some wonderfully written passages and things in it stay with me. However, while the cruelty of it is described with restraint, it is still so distressing to think about that in the end I decided not to read the first sequel 'The Women of Troy'. I am in two minds as to whether to read the third book, recently published 'The Voyage Home', which I understand is centred on Cassandra and her maid, and portrays crazy, difficult Cassandra less sympathetically than some other writers have done. However, these are just my personal opinions of these works. I know other people react to them differently.

Sir Author Eavens seems like a cool guy!

Onassis's first job in Buenos Aires was rowing a boat in the rotten water of La Boca, he moved people from one place to the other, it was the lowest level job that existed in Buenos Aires in those years. Then he sold clips for ties on Florida Street (hawker ) and it was there where my grandfather met him. His second export business in Buenos Aires was at Viamonte 330 Street, today it is a dry cleaners.

Very informative. Thank you for putting it up!

Πολύ ωραία παρουσίαση. Πώς γνωρίζουμε πως είναι Βυζαντινό και πως δεν ανήκει στο τότε Παπικό κράτος ή στην Αυτοκρατορία των Φράγκων;

Mr. Eastmond, thank you for this wonderful small lecture!

how do i get avi's translation?

A pleasant voice, fair French, perfect Greek and English enunciation - a delight to hear...also, Εμπειρίκος was a weirdo.

Great analysis!

Lolllll ‘asiatic’ 😂😂😂 that’s the ‘british school’ for ya

Looking forward to his "Muse of History" , out in June.

Robin Lane Fox is like Greece, a treasure. His 2005 book (penguin) “The Classical World, An Epic History of Greece and Rome” is a book I have returned to often. 👑⚔️🛡️

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Great conference!

I am reading the book and developing a growing interest on Greek culture and Greek peoples.

very interesting. thank you for sharing

Very interesting, thank you. It seems to me that 'tying down' the Theran eruption is absolutely key to matching up the various relative chronologies and understanding the period.

Very interesting, thank you.

I find the lecture very interesting. Is it possible to know the height or any measure of the pithos shown at min. 30:42 ? Is there any paper or publication about? I couldn't find anywere in the 2023 paper.

Interesting, some stuff I wasn't familiar with here, the images of women carrying 'dead' animals and the type of robe worn in the 'harvester' vase being carried and probably exchanged. It does seem to be the same (type of) garment.

Thank you.

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Let's not forget that Dna proves that ancient Greeks come both from Eastern populations and eastern Europe populations. They don't come from the west.

Excelente presentatipn

"Modern Non-Greeks" can't take any "liberties"(i.e. "rewriting"/"redacting") the actual Myths to make them more "appealing to Modern Audiences(tm)". Will they be taking these same "Liberties" to "update and improve" Shakespeare too? "Frailty thy name is Woman.", indeed ;)

The Ancient Greeks treated women like chattle the vast majority of the time. Go read what the "Great Philosophers" had to say about them :) Sorry, no amount "Modern Revisionist History(tm)" is gonna change that ;) Yes, the Culture these folks admire most is also the Culture they say they hate the most.....A very "modern" approach to "History"(tm).

Seriously, look how many times the words "modern" and "retelling" occur in the description. LOL! The Newspeak is real ;) Like I said, nothing if not utterly predictable and pedantic.

Funny, how these "Modern" Marxist "Academics" can only ever "reinvent", "reinterpret", "reimagine", "redact", "revise" or attempt to "reverse" the facts and events of real History. They are completely and utterly devoid of intellect, insight and originality. Hence, their compulsion to always steal from others, whilst also complaining about everything they're stealing along the way. Very "Progressive", indeed.

Very inspiring talk

Definitely a spellbinding topic about Aristotle lessons of ethic, and about the lecture, the professor is clear, precise and above all with smooth words is plenty understandable. Greetings from Perú.

Fascinating! But, was only 9 minutes in and 2 commercials already. If there's a commercial every 5 minutes...you break my concentration. Ugh.

Venizelos should not have called an election in 1920

Very interesting theme. I'm saving it for later since now I'm a bit drunk.

Colossus close

The narrators accent makes her speech incomprehensible. Asta eglezika kalitera, milate ellinika ke valte ipotitulus.

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One question . why when greeks sing it sounds eastern? micro tonality wes present in greek music from the classical era

There's no real reason for drag queens not to have contact with kids. Thank you for this lecture