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Slaughterhouse Five - March into Dresden
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Here is one of my favorite scenes from the Slaughterhouse Five film adaptation, and overall for that matter...this is what one gets when Vonnegut, George Roy Hill, Glenn Gould, and Johann Sebastian Bach get together
Breathtaking filmaking!!!
A brilliant and mesmerising encapsulation of elation at the surreal mixture of baroque splendour and shear absurdity and destructive madness of war. A moment of a very Germanic version of "MASH". Enveloped in a slowly emerging apprehension of an ever faster approaching doom, hinted at by the snap back into reality, as the elderly veteran slaps Bily Pilgrim's face in anger and outrage. Love andrea
A 5 minute masterpiece.
5:10 Old man: "Glauben Sie, dass Krieg ein Witz ist... zwei Söhne, zwei Söhne habe ich im Krieg verloren" (Do you think war is a joke... two sons, I lost two sons in the war)😪
Thank you for the translation. I've wondered since 1972 what the old man said. I also noticed he was wearing war medals, perhaps from his own service in The Great War, or his sons' posthumous medals 😢
@@ernesthill4017I always assumed he was a veteran of the Franco Prussian War of 1870. Iron crosses were awarded, and he looks as if he could be 90 years old.
Does anyone know what the old German man that struck Billy said?
The old man says, "do you think war is a joke?!"
He goes on to say he lost 2 sons in the war 😢
@@ernesthill4017 Thank you
Bach, yes, but can anyone identify this particular piece ?
Starting with the violin concerto in E, third movement and transitions to the 4th.Brandenburg concerto, 3rd. movement.
@@bobbylee2853 thank you, Bobby ☮️ 👍
@@ernesthill4017 These are my favourite Bach works by far!🫠
"At each road intersection Billy's group was joined by more Americans with their hands on top of their haloed heads. Billy had smiles for them all"
Dresden, Germany. One of the most beautiful cities in the pre-war world. I should have liked to visit in those days, however, I was not yet born.
At the end, an old man slaps Pilgrim. He is wearing the iron cross. I suppose it was given to him because his son was killed in battle since he is too old to have been a soldier. Is my assumption correct?
Anyway, the most brilliantly artistic bit of cinematic propaganda the world will ever see.
yep
Could be the old man is a WW1 vet and earned it himself.
Judging from his appearant age, it's more likely he was an officer decorated for valor in the Great War
@@johnmac3410 The Franco Prussian war.
Thanks 😊 for uploading Good movie 🎥 Saw it a long time ago back in the 1990s
This was one of the best parts of the movie very well done!
What is the Harpsichord sequence called that starts from 2:16? Or is it the same song the whole sequence? (If so, what is it called hehe)
The theme of this interlude is clearly from the 3rd movement of the Brandenburg concerto No. 4 that later starts at 2:26, but here we first hear it transferred into a minor scale and played as some kind of fugue performed by a solo harpsichord. I think this is a slight tampering with Bach's music for dramatic effect - unsurprisingly, after we first heard an excerpt from Bach's harpsichord concerto No. 3 in D, 3rd movement at 0:05. Just as the images give us short impressions of the scenery, even the music rushes us through some melodies to quickly introduce us to the atmosphere.
@@klilinoklire4403 thank you for the informative answer!! 👍
The art direction is incredible for 1972. The uniforms are authentic. The director could have easily used formidable guards for dramatic effect but realistically used old men and young boys.
I always thought the photography in this movie looked nothing short of outstanding, especially all the turquoise and olive green hues in the movie. WW2 Germany in the middle of winter and his mundane upper middle class life in 1950’s-1960’s upstate New York were beautiful.
That's because the director is being faithful to the novel. The POWs were in fact guarded by old men and young teens. Vonnegut reportedly loved the film adaptation.
@@alecfoster5542 100.000 Hansels and Gretels...
Their guns were antiques also with a spike bayonet.
Maybe except for the modern railroad cars from Poland of the '70 in the background.
What version of the brandenburg concerto no. 4 is this I can’t find any other version with the organ
It is ALL Prague in real !
2.10. that clearly is not Dresden, but Prague. :) The last big city in Europe not destroyed in WW2.
yes
"Battle of local importance" 2015, war drama, trailer ruclips.net/video/DJ3OH0k0syI/видео.html
Soviet/russian movie 1972 about WWII, trailer ("Battle of local importance", war drama). Sergeant Major Vaskov is unexpectedly assigned a group of young female anti-aircraft gunners in a railway station far from the front line. During an air raid, one of the girls, Margaret, shoots down an enemy aircraft and is decorated for her deed. Sergeant Major Vaskov chooses five volunteers: Margaret, Eugenia, Elizabeth, Galyna and Sophia, to embark with him on a mission to eliminate, only there are sixteen German paratroopers instead of two. Vaskov sends Elizabeth back to base for reinforcements.Sophia is killed by a knife and Galyna is shot and dies immediately from her wounds. Vaskov, to create a diversion, leads the Germans away from the remaining two girls. Vaskov is shot in the arm but manages to escape from the Germans. During a prolonged battle, Margaret is injured by shrapnel from a grenade and tells Eugenia to leave her. Realizing that they are cornered, Eugenia disobeys Vaskov's orders to cover them and instead taunts and lures the Germans away through the forest, as Vaskov did earlier and is killed. Vaskov stays with Margaret against her wishes to treat her wounds and promises to take her back to base. After kissing her at her request, he leaves to find a way out, giving her the revolver but soon comes back to find that Margaret has shot herself. The desperate Vaskov, by stabbing a soldier, shooting another and bluffing with the grenade, he captures a submachine gun. The rest of the women of the regiment, who have come to rescue the group, find Vaskov before he passes out from exhaustion. Thirty years after the war ends, Vaskov visits be Margaret's son. They are at a memorial for the five female soldiers that died. ruclips.net/video/k2jYcjHtwWU/видео.html
Where is the movie complete online? please
Just go to streaming Amazon and buy it. You no longer have to go to a local video store or purchase a DVD. RUclips doesn’t post entire mainstream movies for free unless copyright is being violated.
The old (Kommendant) also played the Maori harpooner in the 1950`s movie Moby Dick
Thank you for that information! I recognized him, but only AFTER you pointed it out.
Yes he was great in both. He was a cavalry officer for Austria Hungary in WW1. Great at playing aristocratic types. One of my favorite scenes in Moby Dick was when the Quaker ship owners were quizzing him about his belief in God, he spat and threw his harpoon dead center on a distant barrel. They immediately hired him and for his signature on the contract he drew a whale.
Was also the Field Marshal in the movie "The Blue Max."
What does the German old man says after he slaps the American soldier? Anyone knows??
"Haben sie das Ziel... Glauben Sie, dass Krieg ein Witz ist?" "Is your intent to... Do you think, war is a Joke?" I am not sure about the first part though.
@@Chris44351 ; Cool! thank you!!
He said TRUMP 2424!!!!!!!!
@@chadhaire1711 , right !!! 2424 will work !
@Attila the Pun I will...and long after China Joe and Hunter the crack head is gone
Powerful sequence, especially when the children start walking along with the POWs. Haunting.
couldn't they have just jumped those guards?
@H.J their in the middle of Germany. Probably at least a hundred miles away from the frontline. Say they jump the guards, what then? Next train to Berlin to kill the Austrian perhaps? 😂
I suspect also as a foil for Billy Pilgrim's innocence in a situation he (and they) were not able to comprehend.
Prague, my hometown
Bach Violin Concerto No. 2 in E major III. Allegro assai
Vonnegut has said he was beaten by his captors when they learned he spoke German.
If I remember it’s not that he spoke German it’s that he basically told them fuck you. I seem to also remember that the guards didn’t do it but his own company
goddamn! why can't you allow movies like this to be posted in full the russians put out all their movies for free! you bloody money-grubbing snobs!
C-A-P-I-T-A-L-I-S-M
As most know, the movie is an adaptation and not very true to the book. Also well-known is that Vonnegut himself praised the film anyway because George Roy Hill precisely got across the important points and atmosphere he expresses in the book. Somehow and strangely, several critics disagreed with Vonnegut and his positive take! Absurd? Yes, but explainable. The book explores deeper aspects beyond the dark humor and sarcasm of Vonnegut's philosophy. I'm still with Vonnegut though, the movie is good and represents Slaughterhouse Five well.
MisterNewOutlook so true, the movie makes it look as if it’s the present-day late 1960’s and Billy is constantly having flashbacks and the late 1960’s in his home from the time his daughter is searching for him to the end and that his time travels and seeing Montana Wildhack on another planet are not illusions, but true to life because she disappeared while filming a movie. The book made it look like he was schizophrenic and with PTSD.
The film is a great complement to the book. Ron Leibman plays the Paul Lazaro character perfectly.
@@lmferg Vonnegut said in an autobiographical book that his father critiqued his writing, saying he never wrote villains, so his stories lacked conflict. Kurt liked the charaocters he created too much to make them truly villainous, and instead gave them all some humanity. Paul Lazaro was one of the few true villains in any of Vonnegut's works.
Not to often that the movie is faithful to the book. At least it was not a TV adaption.
Now, this is a film I'd like to see a remake of, along Soylent Green 😊 With the use of modern CGl, they could do amazing things!
That damn music!
SLAP ! ' Glauben sie das der Krieg ein Witz ist?"
English, Please...
@@joetrampozzo5859 Do you think war is a joke?
@@shanemoore8055 ; OK! cool thanks!! are you German?
@@joetrampozzo5859 i`m Australian, but my parents were Germans, and i lived in Germany for 6 years
@@shanemoore8055 ; so you speak English and German....Cool. I like Germany.
Have enjoyed this movie whenever I've seen it. Don't remember if I read the book or not.
I just recently re-read it. I became convinced it is one Man's greatest little books we have in our Western Cannon. Please, if you can, re-read it.
Reading the novel first helps one appreciate the film more 👍
Magnificent...
"Ist Bach, ja?" "Na, ist Mozart!"
Tinestamp?
The bit of Kultur reminded me of "Schindler's List."
What is the old man saying after he slaps Billy Pilgrims face?
Probably mad at them/him for bombing the town(s).
"Do you think that war is a joke?"
@@michaelward9167 no bombs had yet fallen on Dresden.
Alphonse McDevitt you little bastard, you think it’s okay to insult our people wearing that jacket owned by a Jew? The kids think it’s funny, I don’t!
@@jondstewart Wow!
I was captivated by Bach and Gould in this movie!
Which town was this filmed in? Is it Lubeck?
It was filmed in Prague. You can see the Charles Bridge at 2:22 and the dome of the Church of St. Francis at 2:26.
There are a couple of quick glimpses of Dresden (The Zwinger and for a second at beginning) but Prague. I lived in both cities. Dresden is better.
One my favorite scenes in the film, and l do not know why. Perhaps is the young inexperienced soldiers, boys really, stumbling over themselves comically, when the German Army was so notable for its marching ability. It is clear, the nation is scraping the bottom of the manpower barrel late in the war. Perhaps it is the strange juxtaposition of the marvelous music set against the grim backdrop of war. I love the way the camera pans upward as they march past the "DRESDEN" sign. The music shifts to a minor key as if to let you know you are looking at a doomed city. 😮
Took place in February 1945.
The sensation that this scene of the march towards Dresden leaves us is the vulnerability and innocence within a city that does not know its destiny, about the fragility of the common human being immersed in a war, of passing in a moment of tranquility of peace to the terrible of hell. The music envelops the air and mixes with its glorious past, the fragility of beauty reflected in the baroque sculptures and friezes of the buildings, indicating the eternal of the mind and the volatile and fleeting nature of matter, That is making movies.
@@michaelward9167 Only a few weeks from surrender.
I'd know that piano player anywhere. You can always tell it's Gould by the clarity.
You might could say his playing is "as good as 'Gould' lol
but its harpsichord, not piano.
@@gerardnederland4006 ruclips.net/video/oSZJ__GIbms/видео.html
Billy Pilgrim was somewhat like Forrest Gump. He’s innocent and good-hearted, but a man of normal intelligence, no personality, and a passive marshmallow.
@@omi_god you end up taken advantage of, walked all over, and hated by hardened and cynical people! But those people have their day coming and people like Billy Pilgrim get shot to death from a very nasty and stupid person in their elderly years and live again!
Absolutely delicious. <3 Thank you.