Mr. Superstar
Mr. Superstar
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Honda Civic 1.8i-VTEC startup problem
Просмотров 3,3 тыс.Год назад
- Car cranks but always starts, no problems just the longer cranking - Fuel level is not low, the bar just goes down when driving on LPG
Honda Civic FK2 1.8i-VTEC LPG sound and engine bay view
Просмотров 1,8 тыс.2 года назад
177,000km LPG system brand - BRC
Citroën DS4 2011 1.6 THP 200 afternoon drive
Просмотров 3,4 тыс.2 года назад
Disclaimer: Please note no copyright infringement is intended, and I do not own nor claim to own any of the music used in this video. 0:00 - City traffic 1:03 - Normal driving 4:10 - Overtaking 4:20 - Normal driving 8:00 - Overtaking 8:20 - Normal driving 10:00 - City traffic
Honda Civic 8G 1.8 i-VTEC fuel consumption test
Просмотров 3,3 тыс.2 года назад
0:00 - Engine startup 0:23 - Bumpy Road 1:50 - Fuel consumption test
Honda Civic 8G 1.8 i-VTEC 0-170 km/h acceleration
Просмотров 3,7 тыс.2 года назад
Honda Civic 8G 1.8 i-VTEC 0-170 km/h acceleration
Honda Civic FK2 1.8 i-VTEC overtaking and acceleration
Просмотров 9 тыс.3 года назад
Dashcam tachometer does not show the correct speed. Speed limits have not been exceeded in this video. Clips in this video are edited and cannot be used in any way. Disclaimer: Please note no copyright infringement is intended, and I do not own nor claim to own any of the music used in this video. This video is for informational purposes only. It is intended to show the capabilities of the R18A...
Škoda Octavia II 1.9 TDI engine sound at idling
Просмотров 6 тыс.3 года назад
1.9 TDI PD BXE 77kW 250Nm
Citroën DS4 1.6 THP 200 Engine startup
Просмотров 5 тыс.3 года назад
Outside temperature 5°C, cold engine.
Honda Civic FK2 1.8 i-VTEC engine startup
Просмотров 3,8 тыс.3 года назад
Engine is warmed up, outside temperature -3°C
Honda Civic FK2 1.8 i-VTEC startup
Просмотров 2,6 тыс.3 года назад
Startup at 0°C with 100 octane premium fuel.
Honda Civic FK2 1.8 i-VTEC GT POV Evening Drive
Просмотров 20 тыс.4 года назад
Honda Civic FK2 1.8 i-VTEC GT POV Evening Drive
Honda Civic FK2 1.8 i-VTEC engine sound at idling
Просмотров 17 тыс.4 года назад
Honda Civic FK2 1.8 i-VTEC engine sound at idling
Citroën DS4 1.6 THP 200 engine sound at idling
Просмотров 13 тыс.4 года назад
Citroën DS4 1.6 THP 200 engine sound at idling
Citroën C3 1.4i 54kW highway consumption
Просмотров 2 тыс.4 года назад
Citroën C3 1.4i 54kW highway consumption
Citroën C3 1.4i engine start, sound and consumption
Просмотров 49 тыс.4 года назад
Citroën C3 1.4i engine start, sound and consumption
Citroen C3 1.4i - POV Afternoon Drive
Просмотров 45 тыс.4 года назад
Citroen C3 1.4i - POV Afternoon Drive

Комментарии

  • @Tintoycar
    @Tintoycar 23 дня назад

    I still had the original battery in my 2012 Civic 🙂 It died in Portugal this summer after 2000 km long drive. Luckily on Sunday the cars shops were open.

  • @Tintoycar
    @Tintoycar 23 дня назад

    Still driving it

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 23 дня назад

      @@Tintoycar Yes, I am.

    • @Tintoycar
      @Tintoycar 23 дня назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 We have this one, 225000 km and zero problems, low maintenance. We also have a 2012 model with same engine, 205000 km, zero problems, low maintenance. My previous Civic (EJ9) had 500 000 km, zero problems 🙂

  • @a.s.v4261
    @a.s.v4261 2 месяца назад

    ruclips.net/video/nMOi0PLkvBU/видео.htmlsi=4Wj1PcZjZ2_k9BSz My Honda Civic 2007 233.000 km!😊 Last summer a round trip, 6.500 km Alsace, Bavarian Alps from Spain, 300 cm3 oil consumption, 6,2 liter of gasoline. A young of 17 years old!

  • @ΜΑΡΙΝΑΖΑΡΚΟΥ
    @ΜΑΡΙΝΑΖΑΡΚΟΥ 3 месяца назад

    😅

  • @niloxz3367
    @niloxz3367 3 месяца назад

    mine is like 7.7l what does i do wrong i drive very efficient und try to use the higehst gear and only drive with criuse controll

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 3 месяца назад

      It depends on the wind, temperature, etc. I drive long routes on highway most of the time. At 135 km/h it consumes around 6-7l/100km. At 150km/h it's at 7.5-8 litres

  • @NeverGiveUpYo
    @NeverGiveUpYo 4 месяца назад

    That zippy was kinda sketchy...

  • @nicoberna5463
    @nicoberna5463 6 месяцев назад

    Not bad for a 1.8 litre petrol engine. The consumption of my Civic is close to 5 l/100km in similar conditions, but has the i-vtec 1.4 litre engine (that actually is more a 1.3 litre, since it's 1339cc).

  • @jOhNnYRy0
    @jOhNnYRy0 7 месяцев назад

    Consuption?

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 7 месяцев назад

      It was a long time ago I had that car. I think it was around 6-6,5 litres.

  • @jOhNnYRy0
    @jOhNnYRy0 7 месяцев назад

    Very good

  • @jOhNnYRy0
    @jOhNnYRy0 7 месяцев назад

    Average consuption?

    • @RoxusRemo
      @RoxusRemo 4 месяца назад

      i get 40-60mpg (uk) mixed driving

  • @gnapur
    @gnapur 8 месяцев назад

    sem tam jazdiš ako hovado :D ale r18z4 ma k tebe doviedol

  • @dalehawke7621
    @dalehawke7621 11 месяцев назад

    Cool video, can I ask what’s the performance like of the type s 1.8 and the fun factor compared to the type R ? As I’m seriously considering purchasing a type S , as the insurance is a lot cheaper and better fuel economy etc, but I worried that it only having only 138 bhp that it may feel sluggish!!

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 11 месяцев назад

      Hi, thanks. I haven't driven the Type R so I can't compare. But I can rate the 1.8 as a great and very reliable engine. It has torque in lower revs, but don't expect tons, it is fun to drive, but you have to rev it if you want to be fast. 240,000km and no problems, only 2 pulleys had to be changed as they started to squeak. It is the only car in the family, that runs and runs without problems. It was converted to run on LPG and is even more economical. And to answer you - it doesn't feel sluggish to me.

  • @rey6450
    @rey6450 11 месяцев назад

    Its normal

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Месяц назад

      It was not. The battery was weak. Swapped got a new one and it starts instantly now.

  • @Moohalal
    @Moohalal 11 месяцев назад

    did you run out of fuel?

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 11 месяцев назад

      No, I did not. I drive on LPG, the fuel gauge goes down but in reality I have around 35 litres of fuel in the tank. After few days it resets back to normal.

  • @Moohalal
    @Moohalal 11 месяцев назад

    Check Your Fuel Mate

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 11 месяцев назад

      Fuel was fine, it was the battery.

    • @838Singer
      @838Singer 16 дней назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 The voltage or Ah was the problem, i had the same problem, but i just bought new chains :D

  • @adampeto3478
    @adampeto3478 Год назад

    Mám otázku, pred nedávnom som kúpil takýto civic , auto je super ... akurát pri diaľničných rychlostiach sa pri cca 135 -137 km/h pri 6. stupni ozve vcelku hlasné dunenie. Zvuk je vždy pri tej istej rýchlosti a akonáhle spomalím hoci len na 134 tak zvuk postupne odíde, v aute popri tom nie sú žiadne zvláštne vibracie ani nič také ... Je to nejaká vec ktorá tak proste má byť alebo je to nejaká závada len na mojom kuse ? (otáčky pri zvuku sú niekde cca 3500-3600) Dík za odopoveď , a super video. 👍

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      Myslím si, že to je špecifická závada na tvojom kuse, ale nie je to vec, čo by bolo nevyhnutné riešiť. Toto je bezporuchový motor, ak sa oň staráš, sám mám 236 tisíc km a žiadny problém som nemal, ani olej mi nespaľuje, takže báť sa určite nemusíš. Neviem ako hlasné je to tvoje dunenie, over si kladky, či by to nemohli robiť, tie som ja menil. Koľko máš na aute najazdené? Napadlo mi, že pri diesloch podobné zvuky môže robiť zotrvačník, ale neviem ako to je na benzínových motoroch, ak sú tam iba malé a ľahké zotrvačníky, pre istotu by som to asi overil. Ak ti môžem poradiť, tak výmeny oleja nepreťahuj za hranicu 10,000km, dopraj tomu motoru, zaslúži si to. Ak by si niečo mal, kľudne sa pýtaj

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      Mne odjakživa veľmi jemne a potichu zaduní pri 1900 otáčkach na hociktorom prevodom stupni, takže si myslím, že máš podobnú situáciu, len pri inej rýchlosti/otáčkach, nikdy som nemal potrebu to riešiť, príde mi to/znie mi to ako prirodzená charakteristika motora. Ako vravím, nemal som žiadny problém

  • @ottoknows2125
    @ottoknows2125 Год назад

    Hello it's quite inside at 130/140 km/h or really noisy?

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      It's reasonably quiet and comfortable, but don't expect luxurious levels of quietness as with mercedes etc. I travel mostly on highway and travelling with this car is very pleasant

  • @vasilmalchev566
    @vasilmalchev566 Год назад

    100% downhill

  • @themagicianofsound
    @themagicianofsound Год назад

    The sound system seems very good ! Although it is a recording from possibly a cell phone, I can detect the richness of the sound. I'm reading in the comments "but now the audio system is upgraded and works even better", very interesting. My car is a Chevrolet Cruze 2019, I love their 7 speakers system (3 at the front, 2 on the front doors and 2 on the back doors).

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      Thank you! Indeed, it was recorded from a cellphone. Yes, the sound system really rocks now. 7 speakers must rock too!

  • @bestar9275
    @bestar9275 Год назад

    do you have any clue what's the silver thing with the yellow wire coming from the EGR valve?

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      It is an oxygen sensor on the exhaust before catalytic converter

    • @bestar9275
      @bestar9275 Год назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 Thank you! Recently it started smoking from there and I started wondering what the hell even is it.

  • @ThePrivateGamer19
    @ThePrivateGamer19 Год назад

    The sound system works really well

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      It did work well, but now the audio system is upgraded and works even better

    • @ThePrivateGamer19
      @ThePrivateGamer19 Год назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 you did an upgrade to it? Or you meant the stock one? Also if you can tell me how large is the fuel tank.

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      @@ThePrivateGamer19 I swapped the stock audio system to Hertz 165 CX and 165 CK. The fuel tank has 50 litres.

    • @ThePrivateGamer19
      @ThePrivateGamer19 Год назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 thank you, friend ^^

  • @adambucany8545
    @adambucany8545 Год назад

    Vrak

  • @adambucany8545
    @adambucany8545 Год назад

    Kto maže ten jede

  • @adambucany8545
    @adambucany8545 Год назад

    0:32 neni dobre na studeno

  • @radek6814
    @radek6814 Год назад

    Is it normal with a cold engine has 1300 revolutions?

  • @ovidiiugabriel1311
    @ovidiiugabriel1311 Год назад

    Hello! I have exactly same car like yours! Civic GT 2010, i really like it, what type of oil u use on it?

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      Hi, I use Mobil 3000 X1 5W40

    • @ovidiiugabriel1311
      @ovidiiugabriel1311 Год назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 how is the car? In ur oppinnion, it s expensive? It s durable ? It is broke something in time at engine? Just maybe if u had problems

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      @@ovidiiugabriel1311 I think the price range is adequate. I have 210,000km and no problems so far, just regular maintenance (battery, oil + filters, valve clearences, etc.) And if you take good care of it, it is very very durable and reliable

    • @ovidiiugabriel1311
      @ovidiiugabriel1311 Год назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 oh it s verry nice!! And i have 155.000 km, and same i m verry thankfull! I m from europe, and i use 0w20 original honda oil, and in summer i ll change to 0w30, and it s running verry well, it s same red like urs, all exactly😄

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      @@ovidiiugabriel1311 What oil change interval do you go by?

  • @tgvcfr120
    @tgvcfr120 Год назад

    Musik name?

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      It is in the description - Robin Schulz feat. KIDDO - All We Got

  • @hatimabdelmounim6587
    @hatimabdelmounim6587 Год назад

    wich oil do you use on your car please ?

  • @luciangeorge6752
    @luciangeorge6752 Год назад

    Fuel consumption? How is staying on the road?

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      Around 7-7,5l/100km, but when you push it then it takes more. The handling is really impressive, can't say anything bad about road handling, it drives perfect and feels safe.

  • @mehmetkaya-hk4cl
    @mehmetkaya-hk4cl Год назад

    I have the same car but I have a problem with Clutch Pedal. When i push the pdeal, it is making noise . I tried to dissamble the pedal but I couldn't. Do you have any manuel for dissambly?

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      Hi, check this ruclips.net/video/yu_KFM-tpB0/видео.html&ab_channel=ANinjanaFlyrod

  • @razvanaxinie4495
    @razvanaxinie4495 Год назад

    Is it worth to spend about 7500 euros for one in very good condition or 4000 - 5000 for one in a worse shape but use the extra cash for repairs? Given that it is an older car I believe that even well mantained ones might start to have issues.

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      Definitely 7500€ for one in a very good condition. Mine has 205,000km and never had a problem, just had to change battery. Otherwise just regular maintenance - oil, filters, valve clearences, etc. This 1.8 i-VTEC is one of the best engines, if you take good care of it, it will run forever. Make sure the owner changed the oil regularly (I recommend the interval of 10,000km maximum) How many kilometres does that car have? And be careful, the early pre-facelift models may have some issues that facelifted models had fixed (e.g. boot water leak)

    • @razvanaxinie4495
      @razvanaxinie4495 Год назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 Usually 2010-2011 models with 150.000 - 200.000 are in the 7000-8000 price region. However you can never be sure how the previous owner maintained it, especially as I want to buy it from Germany and I am from a different country. I have seen one in my city with 200.000 and it requires additional oil (1-2 liters) between yearly changes, and the owner said he uses 5w30 or 5w40 which was a big red flag for me. On top of that he asked for almost 8000.

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      @@razvanaxinie4495 Be careful about that oil consumption, I change the oil every 7,500km and it doesn't consume any oil after 200,000km (although it depends also on the driving style). One year is a bad time interval. I recommend 6 months/8,000-10,000km if you don't want oil consumption problems. I bought mine from a car enthusiast, who loved this car just as much as I do now. Give it some time if you can and try to find an owner who you can tell loves his car, those cars tend to be maintained the best :) at least that's my opinion

    • @razvanaxinie4495
      @razvanaxinie4495 Год назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 Thanks, that is what I strive for. As I only drive on the weekends for fun and have a garage, getting a well maintained civic and continuing to maintain it will lead to a jewelry of a car in the next 5-7 years.

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      @@razvanaxinie4495 You are welcome. I hope you find your Civic! Have a nice rest of the evening and let me know when you find yours :)

  • @vn-dc3hv
    @vn-dc3hv Год назад

    I used to fake a FK2 too, and overtaking with it was a breeze. Just revmatch to a 3rd or 4th gear and floor it. Suprisingly fast and fun car. I really liked how the car and gears felt, very go-kart like.

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      Exactly as you said, it just feels good 👍 what year was yours?

    • @vn-dc3hv
      @vn-dc3hv Год назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 2009, got it for dirt cheap too and it only had 50tkm on it. Sold it for a RWD lexus which is really nice too, completely different cars.

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      @@vn-dc3hv That sounds good, enjoy your car :)

  • @HardiHolpus
    @HardiHolpus Год назад

    Should be more economical, like 5 l/100km

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      It was being driven in city at that time

    • @HardiHolpus
      @HardiHolpus Год назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 For highway driving, is 4 l / 100 km possible?

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      @@HardiHolpus Not possible, at 130km/h around 5,5-6/100km as it revs around 3750RPM. 4,5-5l/100km at 100km/h

  • @brianjensen7368
    @brianjensen7368 Год назад

    I don't have Engine Temperature in my car. Is it something you can set

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      It was bought from an online website, it is kind of a software patch

    • @brianjensen7368
      @brianjensen7368 Год назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 Can you tell me where?

    • @brianjensen7368
      @brianjensen7368 Год назад

      Burns your car oil?

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      @@brianjensen7368 I have a Civic, this is not my car but I will ask the owner about the software, cuz I don't remember. Yes, it burns oil - around 1 litre / 4000km, the engine will be getting new piston rings (not original) this summer because these factory ones are completely sh*t

    • @brianjensen7368
      @brianjensen7368 Год назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 I don't think it will help with new piston rings. Ds4's weakness is burning oil. But let me know if it helps. Thanks for wanting to find out with the software patch

  • @Gucio34624
    @Gucio34624 Год назад

    i have a black fd7 r18a2, perfect engine. Nice video

  • @mohammedsalimahmed5230
    @mohammedsalimahmed5230 Год назад

    Miss my VW Jetta 1.9TDI, served me very well and pulled great but very boring and sounds like a WW2 era tractor. like my 2.5 petrol Mazda a lot better.

  • @asafgrinberg8629
    @asafgrinberg8629 Год назад

    how did u fix ur screen

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      What do you mean by fixing my screen?

    • @asafgrinberg8629
      @asafgrinberg8629 Год назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 i got a problem with my civic hatchback 2010 the screem that show AC doesnt work or work half

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      @@asafgrinberg8629 Try this: ruclips.net/video/pBJ7E5XX2z8/видео.html&ab_channel=coolcars100

  • @stefanmiloradovic9988
    @stefanmiloradovic9988 Год назад

    Im buying 1.8 with LPG, year is 2008. I had CR-V automatic with 2.0 vtec consumption was 13-15 liters lpg, now have HR-V gasoline but consumption too high. I think civic is perfect and also looking cool

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      Which LPG system (brand) does it have? And does it have valve protector as well? And yes it is perfect, hope it cheers you up!

    • @stefanmiloradovic9988
      @stefanmiloradovic9988 Год назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 Im not sure which brand, i know it have valve protector.

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      @@stefanmiloradovic9988 Did you get it?

    • @stefanmiloradovic9988
      @stefanmiloradovic9988 Год назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 Car i wanted to buy was in bad condition, not even close as on pictures, so im still looking

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      @@stefanmiloradovic9988 I see, good luck with next ones!

  • @maciejmotawski9887
    @maciejmotawski9887 Год назад

    Beautiful!

  • @jassubramanian502
    @jassubramanian502 2 года назад

    you have to change the battery or your starter needs to be replaced

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 2 года назад

      It was the battery, it had 7 years

    • @Alrx7_
      @Alrx7_ 2 года назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 7 YEARS?

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 2 года назад

      @@Alrx7_ Yes, it had 7 years

    • @ripperino2
      @ripperino2 Год назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 that was a good battery

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      @@ripperino2 Yes :) because it's Yuasa :)

  • @nighteagle7299
    @nighteagle7299 2 года назад

    What gear?

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 2 года назад

      6th gear

    • @nighteagle7299
      @nighteagle7299 2 года назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 oh ok. Do you still have that Citroen C3? I'm curious what are the rpm's at 100 km/h and above :) I also got a C3, that's why I'm asking.

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 2 года назад

      @@nighteagle7299 I sold it 2,5 years ago. RPMs at (110 and 135 is correct, the others are a very close guess): - 100km/h: 2700-2800 rpm - 110km/h: 3050 rpm - 120km/h: 3300-3400 rpm - 135km/h: 3800-4000 rpm

    • @nighteagle7299
      @nighteagle7299 2 года назад

      @@mr.superstar7919 Thank you very much!

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 2 года назад

      @@nighteagle7299 Glad to help, you are welcome!

  • @dlikdu6795
    @dlikdu6795 2 года назад

    Propre la voiture j’ai exactement la même même couleur carto E85 conso 6-7 litres au régulateur entre 90-110 km/h

    • @daniel_eg_k20
      @daniel_eg_k20 Год назад

      What you mean to clean the car ? His car is consuming less than yours

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 Год назад

      What do you mean?

    • @The_Touring_Jedi
      @The_Touring_Jedi 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@mr.superstar7919His consumption on E85 petrol is bad no wonder. With E98 this engines runs better and is more fuel efficient. Also Iridum sparks should be changed at 60k km if you have them. They don't last longer

  • @Pawcio2115
    @Pawcio2115 2 года назад

    Cool

  • @Pawcio2115
    @Pawcio2115 2 года назад

    🤮

    • @pjoter5398
      @pjoter5398 2 года назад

      Możesz nie lubić ale musisz szanować i to cię boli hehe

  • @Pawcio2115
    @Pawcio2115 2 года назад

    Lmfao the description. Very good video my friend. I'm going to buy the Civic VIII 1.8 as my first car and I'm very excited

    • @mr.superstar7919
      @mr.superstar7919 2 года назад

      Thanks! I'm glad you liked it. Very good choice for a first car, I hope it will make you happy for a long time

  • @derkieler8977
    @derkieler8977 2 года назад

    🤣🤣👍👍💯💯🤣🤣

  • @simonjohnhinton1938
    @simonjohnhinton1938 2 года назад

    I recommend Archoil fuel additive. Does a brilliant job of cleaning your injectors. It's not cheap but works better than most of the others. Give it a try.

  • @irkaskv
    @irkaskv 2 года назад

    In my family we have one Saxo and one C3 1.4 diesel!!!!!!!!!! I love them both!!!!!! I love Citroen!!!!!!!!!! Saxo is mine, my beautifull mpoumpou!!!!!!!!!!!!