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The Greyhound? Or is there another monster surf wave I'm not aware of?

Yeah, I'm assuming you want Greyhound Bus Stopper. That's in here. It was breaking and greening. You'll see Spencer catch it and me blow off it when it greened.

You might be thinking of the ones on the new river dries

Oh yeah, good point. Oddly my friends who went to the dries this same day said it was too low, which really confused me

@@dl5604 Yes, that's it. Is that a different section that is dam controlled with releases like on the Gauley?

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By waiting, you mean harassing? Ha!

Yeah, we were mostly interested in avoiding the nasty spots!

Nothing of scouting at higher water, but I've got a couple videos of running the river. There are plenty of videos of people with greater skill than I have running everything, though.

I expect that'll be quite some time from now, but I will likely take a hike in to chronicle the new Green once it settles into itself.

@@paddlebikediveclimb TY, my cousin Fast Fred lost his home (Cabin) in Green River Cove. Thanks, this let me see the beauty of the river that I have not seen in over 20 years!

He's okay, though?

@@paddlebikediveclimb Yes, he is but he lost everything, FastFredRuddock on YT, thanks.

I'm glad that at least he's okay. Good luck!

Nope; I have no clue what that means.

@@paddlebikediveclimb the mason Dixon canoe cruisers. They're the local kayak club for Harper's ferry

Gotcha. I am very rarely in the Harper's Ferry area, which would explain why I haven't heard of them

I feel like Center is the place to meet all the shredders you never see when it comes in.

I don't know your skill level, so I won't say what's an ideal place to SUP, but if you want to meet the folks who whitewater SUP in the area, you'll usually find them at Anglers. Or if the level is just right, at Rocky

@@paddlebikediveclimb sweet. And I appreciate you taking into consideration my skill level. I should’ve explained that a little bit more. I’m a comfortable class 3 kayaker/SUP’r. The lower Yough and Stonycreek are my favorite places to paddle. I’ve been doing a lot of bigger water and rafts. But I’m finding myself being a lot more comfortable on my standup than my kayak. But thanks for your input a lot. I really appreciate it. I will check that out. Again, thanks a lot. And keep posting your videos. I enjoy them highly enjoy them.

Cool, if you're comfortable on class 3 big water, check out Rocky Island Waves when the river drops back down to 4.2-4.0ish. It's class 3, phenomenal surf wave, and your probability of meeting other folks who SUP the area is pretty high.

The way the Jackson outfitting has cords to hold the back band in place means there are lots of cords connecting the back band to the boat hull that I had to shove my dry bag through. I would not consider this a reason to not get the boat. If I owned it, I would alter the back band-boat attachment to be easier to either detach temporarily or have bigger gaps with stronger material. As someone who was demoing the boat, it was an annoyance that I couldn't fix. I have rented a Jackson (small Antix) before for an over-night trip, and I did move the cords so I could load and unload the boat every day.

There are some amazing boaters on the Potomac. Always a pleasure to watch them shred.

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Yeah. I updated the description to that effect yesterday. Need to update the title, now, too. Will be interesting to see the changes, but for now I'm just hoping everyone in the area is safe and has strong community to get them through rebuilding.

Thanks; it was fun. A little frustrating with the map error, but a small enough area that it didn't matter too much.

Yeah, some pretty bad lines in this one.

Yeah, that was a great paddle!

Yeah, and yet the water has felt warmer this week for some reason. Probably I've adjusted, ha

The standard releases in the fall are 2800 cfs. A friend speculated that the drought meant the ground was soaking up more of the release than usual. I hadn't been on the Gauley for 2 years, so it felt the same to me. And don't discount the GoPro effect. Everything looks smaller in a POV video than I'm reality.

The slot upstream of Otter? I call that one Squirrel. You can run it below 3. It's bumpy. ruclips.net/video/oVxVBGBGW-c/видео.html

@@paddlebikediveclimb Ok, thanks for the beta! 😊

For sure. I think I have always scouted that slot before running it. It's not a first lap for me, so I take a look on the way back up. That way I have the water and rocks fresh in my mind so I don't pin when I run it.

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ruclips.net/video/M9sqvbPMnds/видео.html At 2.97: definitely enough water to run it, but if you are off line, you could still pin pretty easily.

It's a long day, but so much fun! I was stoked to put on early because we had to drive 5 hours home immediately after taking off.

I'm trying to figure out what an angle roll should be. It could be something...

At 1:56 I decided to boof a questionable wave, and it turned out to have a rock in it. I'm the moment I questioned my decision to do it anyway, saying, "That looked bad, and it was bad." I sometimes ignore my eyes for what I want a feature to be.

That roll was pretty ugly. His friend needs to relax, do a better set up, and keep his head down. Other than that everything looked good. I think the hole he was stick in was Piddly. I've never been stick there, but I've been flipped and it's the only place where I managed to get run over by a raft.

@@suedenim9208 He did great. He's a new paddler who stuck with it after his first time trying to roll while falling through a hole. Newer paddlers often don't have the ability to recover from a surprise situation like that and eventually hit their roll.

Thanks! Glad you liked it

The hole we kept our eyes on at this level is at S-Turn. You can see other holes from the scouting shot, but you'd be hard pressed to get to them. In my mind, the biggest hazards at Thunderdome are wood (think logs or even trees that have just broken up over the Falls on their way downstream) popping up next to or below you, and the eddy lines, which are ferocious. If you swam here, I imagine you'd have a dangerous amount of down time. It's amazing how small changes in the level - even when the water's this high - can alter the features.

@@paddlebikediveclimb makes sense. Thanks for the detailed explanation. This looks like the most fun rapid of Great Falls

Small Dagger Rewind. I love this boat

@@paddlebikediveclimb Just getting into whitewater, thinking of getting a half slice. Being about 150lb without gear, how do you think I would fare in a small rewind?

That's my size, and then I load the boat down with more gear than most people carry. It's playful, sometimes my stem sits pretty low in the water, but it works for me. If you're new to kayaking, I'd say to demo as many half slices as you can to see which one works best for you. They're all a little bit different, and some of the newer ones are more slicey (good for play, bad for staying upright if you're not used to it) with bigger bows (good for getting over features). What you want will probably also depend on what kind of whitewater you'll be on and what your kayaking goals are (ask the more experienced folks you paddle with!).

@@paddlebikediveclimb Paddled a medium antix 2.0 on some class II today. First time in a half slice and I dig it. I’d like to get into a small and see how that feels. Then into small rewind. So many boats! Thx for the info.

On my Upper Gauley PFD, one of the several people showing me lines had once flipped on Hawaii 5-0 and hit the notorious rock in the slide. I have run Hawaii 5-0 before, and maybe I will again, but I don't remember it being so much fun that I am stoked about it. The risk-reward is unique in every rapid, and I suspect that there's just something inherent in who showed me the lines my first time down that leads me toward the more conservative line (although for all I know there's a worse, hidden hazard in the creek line?). We actually discussed the risk-reward in the pool below Lost Paddle: probably every paddler is irrationally more scared of some class 1-3 rapid where we had a bad experience at some point, or where have seen something crazy, than we are of other class 4-5 rapids that we run all the time with only had clean lines.

@@paddlebikediveclimb the creek line does not look like a nice place to be upside-down either, but I am glad you showed it. If I ever run the UG again, I shall try it. You might enjoy Peyton Love's videos of alternate lines on the UG.

Yeah, the Gauley is shallow in a lot of places, and generally I don't want to be upside down, ha. I'll have to look up that video, thanks!

Nice, very cool

Don't worry, I've got another one coming up that shows the underwater side of a few rapids, ha.

Chilly in the morning, 80s in the afternoon. The water was chilly enough that I was happier in my dry top the next day. By October... who knows, but it'll probably be colder on all fronts.

Thanks! I tend to film more on a PFD as I never know what's around a corner.

Thanks! Ha, yeah, editing takes a lot of time. I'm still working on a longer project from last year...

I just got home late last night from the Gauley

Thanks! On occasion I find something fun that seems to work.

I like it, and at least for people I paddle with, it seems to be the preferred line over Hawaii 5 0

Yeah, it's pretty good. Sheds water well

@paddlebikediveclimb it is about the best I have seen on here with the S24 Ultra. Great for what you're doing man!

I'm usually not a fan of sharing beta like this, but I figure if I caveat it by saying this is one of the spots where you're more likely to have a bad pin on the Little Falls run... maybe that's okay?

Yeah, I'm not doing that route again unless maybe the level is a lot higher.

Thanks!

I don't know what to tell you; I roll there all the time. It's a great place to practice: a chill pool that's deep, your paddle won't float away, enough circulation to keep the water cycling, and at the end of a run when you're as tired as you'll be on this run.

@@paddlebikediveclimb you are absolutely right about the spot. Maybe the water is cleaner now than it used to be.

Yeah, he did say that's just what they called it when he learned it. It's always interesting to learn how people have different names for the same thing. Did you learn it for sea kayaking?

Yes

It was a fun level for messing around. :)

There's are very specific rules around leave no trace. That's prohibited on the Middle Fork of the Salmon.

He volunteered for that job all trip. Turns out it was more enjoyable for him than cooking or cleaning, ha.