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Matt, Tell me more about your department. Where are you at? Why do they not have struts? Unfortunately, there is not a good work around for not having the right equipment. Chris Mills Fire Rescue Equipment NW, LLC chris@frenw.com 503-793-7925

Yeah...I can recommend something...There are things you can get called acrow props. About 50 bucks a piece so roughly 100 bucks a pair (thats Australian dollars so maybe about half that in the US if that's where you're based). Google them with "acrow prop". they are used to prop houses up during re-stumping or just initial fixturing. not as fancy as the struts and also definitely heavier, but you can pick them up at your local hardware big box store pretty easy. and you can attach a come along in a very similar fashion. I've used them on several RTC's and they work well...Particular on bigger vehicles. They work great on smaller vehicles. particularly small vehicles on their roof like this one. Holmatro make V-Struts. I can't find any pricing on the net so you'll need to get in touch with them directly. They effectively eliminate the need for the come along. They are an all inclusive system with lashing and hooks, about the same size as the rescue struts featured here. edit...Weber rescue system make the stab fast, virtually identical to the V-Strut system but again you'll have to contact them for a quote. These rescue struts look great, but shop around for the solution that suits you.

Thank you keyboard warrior.

@@firerescueequipmentnorthwe8031 I am not wrong and this is supposed to be educational. Don't get too hurt about it.

@Frazzle657, Thank you for sharing your opinion. Extrication is about patient care and not what we want to do. Historically, the injuries we are going to see with a seat belted pt in a roof resting vehicle are upper spine/neck injuries. The key to the viable survivability is moving the pt in-line, making sure we keep their upper spine and lower spine in-line. Lifting the car (about 300 lbs) allows us the room to bring the pt out the back. Did you watch the pt removal video? What we are asking for might make more sense when you tie this removal method in to the vehicle techniques. As an example, about a year ago, I had a vehicle on its roof - we removed the pt the way we show in the video. Pt had a fx C-4, he should have had significant deficits because of this injury. Luckily, we followed the removal technique we teach, 5 weeks later he is walking w/no deficits. These techniques have been honed over 30 years of trial and error - we have cut over 6,000 cars in perfecting these techniques. The goal is to break the “we’ve always done it this way” and look at extrication as an art and not a muscle memory exercise. Remember, we are the advocate for the pt, their potential injuries drives the removal method. Chris Mills Fire Rescue Equipment NW, LLC chris@frenw.com 503-793-7925

On most Hybrid, EV, & Gas Engines w/Auto Stop - when sitting still there is no sound or indication that they are ready to drive away. One of the more reliable ways we have found to determine this hazard is to look at the dash. When the ignition is on, the dash is typically “lit up”. When the ignition is on, the vehicle is usually ready to drive away. When the vehicle is ready to drive away, that's our main concern (since electrocution has been debunked) So, a “Dark Dash” (no lights, no radio, no noise) is usually tied in with the Ignition being off. Ignition Off = probably not going to drive away. There are no absolutes in emergency response, but lots of pretty close - and this is one of those situations. If we make it too complicated, people can’t remember the procedure, if they can’t remember - it won’t get done on scene. What we are teaching is a 95% of the time - let’s get dialed in on the 95% and then we can work on the remaining 5% from there. Chris Mills Fire Rescue Equipment NW, LLC chris@frenw.com 503-793-7925

Luke, Hidden in your passive comment is a legitimate question that I’d be happy to answer. I hope this helps. When using pickets, there are several things to consider: 1) We would only be putting pickets in place if a vehicle were sitting on uneven ground with an angle that concerned us. 2) Common sense tells us that a utility company will not be able to operate the needed heavy equipment on ground that is angled enough to cause this stabilization issue and as such, it is very unlikely that any utilities are under our operating area. 3) This stabilization method is based on the USAR Shoring Principles. So, I guess you might need to have conversations with the people who developed and wrote the manual that is used around the world for disaster response. 4) Per the FOG Manual and most Rope Rescue skills that also use Pickets for stabilization and mobile anchors, we use a 42” Picket, burry it 28” (2/3’s its length) into the ground. High Voltage lines are required to be >36” deep with concrete cable covers placed on top of them in the trench to prevent issues. Natural Gas Line depth requirements vary across the country, residential lines in a yard can be 12”-24”, however along roadways must be >28” deep and are usually in the 36” trench with the high voltage lines to minimize work. For both lines, they are required by code to be deeper than we are putting our pickets. 5) In my 33 years of responding to almost 40,000 calls, I have never had an issue with a picket hitting a power or gas line, nor have I not been able to find any articles of this happening. But feel free to research this yourself on Fire Engineering’s website, web-based articles, or on the firefighterclosecalls.com database. Luke, it is my hope that this answers your concerns, helps you understand how to think for yourself and research something before you make unresearched comments. Just following “this is how it’s always been done” has killed a lot of people over the years. It has been said that a firefighter is a “jack of all trades & a master of none.” This is very true, we have a lot of tradition that we work off of, not always correct but, well intentioned. Do not be afraid to research things for yourself. If you need help understanding a new technique, please ask - don’t just throw darts from behind a keyboard, it’s a poor representation of yourself and your department. Chris Mills Fire Rescue Equipment NW, LLC chris@frenw.com 503-793-7925

We have these made to our specifications & sell them for $150.

Whoever said they even had to make these videos? Did you pay them for production? I don't see where you have the right to bitch about something you just happened to come across on the internet.

@@TempoDrift1480 I digress after viewing again. Ill agree with your point about production..

Thank you!

@@firerescueequipmentnorthwe8031 what type of crayons or markers are you using to mark your cut locations on vehicles? simple tire marking crayons or something else?

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Appreciate it!

Glad it was helpful Russell! Thank you.

Russell, thank you for the feedback! Good question. If the patient is unrestrained and found laying on the roof, you are correct to: stabilize, lift the vehicle, drop the roof and remove pt. However, if the patient is still belted in, controlling their body/weight is difficult without compromising their spinal stability. In those cases, we take both doors off for better patient access and control. Have you seen the patient removal video? ruclips.net/video/p-tR8bcieZw/видео.html About 14:30 in to this video is the roof resting patient removal. This should better explain why we take both doors. Chris Mills Fire Rescue Equipment NW chris@frenw.com 503-793-7925

@@firerescueequipmentnorthwe8031 Thank you so much for the reply, I’ll check out the other video & ill be sure to be in touch if I have any other questions. 👍🏾

Glad you found it to be helpful John!

Thank you Mike!

Jim, Thank you for your thoughts, it is important that we look at what we are doing and ask ourselves if we are doing the right thing. In some cases, you are right about using a particulate mask if the firefighter is operating in enclosed spaces with toxic or harmful particulates. However, not always is “Because we’ve always done it that way” correct, our PPE is sometimes driven by the equipment we are using. Traditionally, we’ve seen hand saws and reciprocating saws used to cut class. These saws tend to aerate the item they are cutting and blow them into the face of the operator. In the video, we are trying to work smarter and use the right tool for the job. We are using a dedicated “Laminated Glass” cutter tool, many different brands are available on the market. There are many advantages to these over what has traditionally been used to cut laminated glass. The three main advantages that I see are: the ability to work in tight quarters, no exposed blade operating near the patient, and the dust created is not agitated/aerated into the air (it drops down and away from the tool operators face). In addition, there are some misunderstandings about the Silica that makes up glass. When Silica is created/melted to form a clear glass window, it loses it's Crystalline Silica form (which is extremely harmful to humans), and becomes Amorphous Silica. Amorphous Silica is classified by OSHA as an "irritant dust", similar to regular airborne dust or smoke from a campfire. Here is a good article written by Tim O’Connell from Rescue 42. I think it is a well written and researched article. rescue42.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/The-Ripper-Glass-Dust-Mythbuster.pdf Please let me know if you have any other questions or thoughts on what we have presented. Again, thank you for asking. Better information and understanding makes us all better at our job. Chris Mills Fire Rescue Equipment NW chris@frenw.com 503-793-7925

Shut up Karen.

We sell it for $100, email me along with billing/shipping address and we can mail it to you. chris@frenw.com

It's a 5350 Ram (22” to 50” range)