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Here are some FACTS of SA about this trial of the brothers , if you read all this let me know your thoughts? NAKED PHOTOS Pictures were found of the brothers' naked bodies at 6 and 8 years old which had their heads cut off and focused on their genitals. 6 year old Erik apears to have an erection in one of the photos. The envelope containing those photographs had their mother's handwriting on it that said "Erik's 6th birthday". MEDICAL RECORDS There was an unexplained injury to the back of Erik's throat (posterior pharynx, the uvula, and the soft palate) at 7 years old which was consistent with oral rape. Dr. Kerry English testified that this type of injury is an indication of oral copulation in children. Nowadays, dentists are trained to look for this injury in children to be able to detect and report child abuse. Both of their medical records had many symptoms that were normally seen in children who are sexually abused such as BROTHERS TELLING COUSINS ABOUT THE ABUSE AS CHILDREN Cousin Diane Vandermolen was told by Lyle when he was 9 years old that he was “afraid his dad was going to come into his room” and that “he and his dad had been touching each other down there”. Diane went to get Lyle’s mother and tell her but Kitty said Lyle was making things up and convinced Diane that nothing was wrong. Erik’s cousin Andy Cano testified that when Erik was 12 and Andy was 10, Erik had told him that his dad is "massaging his dick" and was trying to find out if these massages are normal. He also told Andy that "these massages are beginning to hurt." Andy suggested asking his mother but Erik swore him to secrecy. Andy was 15 when the brothers were arrested. He died in 2003 at 30 yeas old after an overdose on sleeping pills. His mother told reporters that she's convinced that her son died because he couldn't cope with the incarceration of his cousins. ERIK’S LETTER TO HIS COUSIN After Andy Cano passed away, his mother found a letter in his belongings that 17 year old Erik had written to him some months before killing his parents. In that letter, Erik mentions the ongoing sexual abuse: Mom isn’t doing good. It’s like she’s here physically but mentally, she’s just gone, if you know what I mean. She freaks out over nothing. I feel bad for her. I don’t know why she puts up with dad’s shit. At times, I wish I could talk to her about things, you know? Some day... especially dad and I but the way she worships him and tells him everything, I’m so afraid she’ll tell him whatever I say. I just can’t risk it. So now I’m stuck here alone. I’ve been trying to avoid dad. It’s still happening Andy but it’s worse for me now. I can’t explain it. He’s so overweight that I just can’t stand to see him. I never know when it’s going to happen and it’s driving me crazy. Every night I stay up thinking he might come in. I need to put it out of my mind. I know what you said before but I’m afraid. You just don’t know dad like I do. He’s crazy! He’s warned me a hundred times about telling anyone. Especially Lyle. Am I a serious whimpus? I don’t know I’ll make it through this. I can handle it, Andy. I need to stop thinking about it. TESTIMONY OF COUSINS WHO LIVED AT THE MENENDEZ HOUSE Two other cousins, Alan and Kathleen who spent summers at the house said the dad would take the boys to their bedroom and forbid the cousins from going "down the hall". Brian said he heard cries and groans coming from the bedroom. He said that Kitty would turn the TV volume really high and stop him from going upstairs to see what happened. Kathy and Brian also testified that Jose and the boys took showers together. Erik talks about these showers when talking to a reporter after the homicides and before they were arrested. Diane Vandermolen testified that she saw Kitty going to the bathroom to "help Lyle shower" at 14 years old and this would take more than 20 minutes. KITTY MENENDEZ'S THERAPY NOTES Kitty Menendez had said to her therapist six weeks before her death that she was “hiding sick and embarrassing secrets” regarding her family. JOSE SHOWING CHILD PORNOGRAPHY One of their neighbors testified that Jose showed dinner guests a movie containing child pornography and that he found it entertaining. GAY MAGAZINES Someone who helped the family move testified that she had found pornographic gay magazines in Jose's belongings. (I don't belive this is evidence of Jose being a child molester. Just included it since it was mentioned in the trial.) MENUDO SEXUAL ABUSE ALLEGATIONS Jose Menendez was responsible for a boy band called Menudo while working at RCA records. Menudo members weren't recruited simply for their talent, once a boy hit puberty, or reached the age of 16, they were removed from the group and replaced by younger performers. Many former members of the band later said that they were sexually abused during their time in Menudo. After 3 decades, two of the former band members, Roy Rosselló, spoke about Jose Menendez sexually abusing him in the 2023 documentary 'Menendez + Menudo: Boys Betrayed'. Rosselló alleged in the docuseries that Jose Menendez molested, drugged and raped him when the then-teenager was performing with the Puerto Rican boy band Menudo and Jose Menendez was the head of RCA Records. The 51-year-old was a member of the group from 1983 to 1986. That’s the man here that raped me, That’s the pedophile. It’s time for the world to know the truth. Another member of the band, Angelo Garcia, detailed the extensive physical and sexual abuse he experienced during his two-year stint in the group. Angelo recounts being plied with alcohol and passing out. When he woke up, I was naked and I was bleeding, so I knew that I had been penetrated, I had, like, these burn marks on my face from the rug… I was very confused and didn’t understand. MADAME CHERI WOODS Brothel madame Cheri Woods, who sent Jose Menendez escorts, revealed that he would always ask for underage and petite girls, one of her girls came back bleeding everywhere after spending time with Jose which scared many of the other women. Woods said she met Jose Menendez in the early '80s, when the Cuban immigrant first took his job as a top executive at Carolco Pictures. For the next several years, Woods claimed, Menendez "called her every week to ask for girls." Menendez had firm specifications with his orders. He insisted that the girls be no more than 13 years old and petite, but I never employed minors, so I sent my youngest-looking girls. Once, he tried to strangle a very sweet girl as he had sex with her, she was so scared she refused to go back to him - regardless of how much he wanted to pay her. On another occasion, Menendez slapped his date around. And, according to Woods, as he pretended to rape her, she shouted "nasty and macho language" at her. The final deal between Woods and Menendez took place some six years before he and his wife, Kitty, were found murdered. On this particular date, Menendez allegedly severely injured one of Woods' girls with whips and various sex toys. The girl came back with scratches and bruises all over, I decided to stop taking his calls. EXPERT TESTIMONY The brothers were both evaluated in jail by some of the most well respected child abuse, rape and trauma experts and criminologists in the country and they all concluded that they had both been severely psychologically maltreated, molested and abused: Dr. Ann Burgess, an internationally recognized pioneer in the assessment and treatment of victims of trauma and abuse who worked with the FBI on criminal profiling, classified the crime scene as demonstrative of a lack of planning and high emotionality and testified that she believes the brothers' sexual abuse claims after evaluating them. Dr. William Vicary, the forensic psychiatrist who evaluated and treated Erik Menendez for 6 years in Los Angeles County Jail testified that he believes Erik was telling the truth. Dr. John Wilson, a Cleveland State University psychology professor who had studied post-traumatic stress disorder for 22 years--among Vietnam veterans and civilians and rescue workers in Bosnia, testified that Erik Menendez continues to display symptoms of chronic post-traumatic stress disorder. Dr. Wilson also testified that Erik Menendez suffered from a subclass of the disorder known as battered person syndrome. Psychologist Dr. Ann Tyler, who specializes in child abuse, told jurors she believed Erik Menendez was truthful when he recounted years of emotional and sexual abuse. John Conte, a professor of social work at the University of Washington, who evaluated Lyle Menendez testified that the sexual abuse may have gone on longer than Lyle can remember or is willing to admit. Dr. Stuart Hart, a psychology professor at Indiana University who interviewed Lyle Menendez for 60 hours, said the abuse fed a fear that led to the killings. OTHER WITNESSES There were many behaviours witnessed by teachers, coaches, friends and family members which were consistent with sexually abused children: (this is only the SA and not all of it of course, this is not even talking about the physiological they have endured since they were born , living in that house with monsters from birth)

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