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@@schopy287 it’s definitely not obvious! If you hold Shift (or maybe Ctrl? Can’t recall as it’s muscle memory) and use the mouse wheel over your compass bar, you can set by 1s.

@@m.hamacher7881 will test next time I play, would make small course adjustments 10x less annoying! Thanks for the quick reply

@@YagamiKo thanks! Auswanderung means a change in bearing. There’s a procedure that was performed by surface ships called “Auswanderungsverfahren” that involves computing a speed based on change in bearing over time. German surface ships had a very precise device to be able to measure bearing change and compute a relatively accurate speed, in combination with a rangefinder. This method wasn’t used so much on U-boats they didn’t have any such device. Though a method similar to this can be performed as a confirmation based on estimated values right before the shot. I go through this in some of my other videos. Correct, the 4-bearing method is also called Spiess TMA, that was a method developed in the US in the 1950s as submarine warfare was transitioning to sub versus sub, and passive listening only. Typically, U-boats would chase hydrophone bearings down if they needed to rely on the hydrophone (not typical as hydrophone performance was vastly inferior in real life to the game’s super hydrophones). But also remember, they would have friendly units, including other U-boats, send bearing signals, using the radio direction finder, to allow other boats in the group to home in on the signals to form a pack around the convoy.

​@@m.hamacher7881 One additional question: Why did you overhaul your target and shoot from the port side of the ship? Wouldn't it be easier to just continue the parallel course of the ship, then turn port side and hit the ship on its starboard? The process of overhauling and then crossing the enemies course and then firing from the other side seems very risky and unnecessary complicated to me.

@@YagamiKoit’s only dangerous if you are very careless. In the game it is extremely easy to stay out of the enemy’s visibility, it is very forgiving. Getting to zero AOB provides a course confirmation, and allows you to pick the side you want to attack from. Doesn’t matter (yet) in game, but best to approach from out of the sun during the day and from the dark side during the night - if and when they make these considerations a thing, you’ll have developed good habits.

@@hege750 thank you! Yes, I really should get to doing the rest of the boat. Particularly since the developers have the rest of the boat in, although it’s not finished yet. I learned German as a child but am American.

@@florynhollander7766 Hi, if you are using the TDC (or inputting target data into the UI), it is calculating a gyro angle for you and you must point the scope at the target. If you are doing “no TDC” lead angle shooting like I show in the video, you must set target speed to 0 in the UI (or TDC), then fire when the target crosses the bearing you computed.

@@m.hamacher7881 Thanks for your swift answer! But I think I can only set the target speed when I lock the ship. I don't want to lock the ship, do I?

@@florynhollander7766 if using the TDC yourself it won’t matter. If using the UI (which I don’t recommend tbh), yes.

@@m.hamacher7881 HIya, I hope you don't mind me asking another question... I am not a math wonder (far from it) but I do want to get this right. In your example you point your boat at 102 degrees and fire the torpedo when the ship is at 14 degrees to your right. So am I correct that the torpedo hits at a 76 degree angle because the ship is at a 90 degree angle when facing 14 degree to the right and firing the torpedo? (I hope I explain this correctly.) Thanks. 🙂

@@florynhollander7766 this is correct, you end up with a slightly acute impact angle. This is generally advantageous, since slightly acute impact angles can absorb AOB errors better (in other words, there’s a range of impact angles over which changes in AOB have little impact on the lead angle, and that range happens to be slightly behind a 90 impact angle - should he change course while the torpedo is en route this may help you still hit). And so shooting when the target presents a 90 AOB insures you have a slightly acute impact angle, as well as provides a good visual confirmation of the AOB, since 90 is easy to recognize. This is why the historical commander’s handbook recommended shooting at AOB 90 for all but very fast targets. When the target is fast, you end up with an impact angle that is much smaller, which then presents the problem of the torpedo not having as “wide” of a target to hit. In this case it’s better to shoot when the AOB is somewhat less than 90 (the handbook recommends 60).

I highly recommend trying the beta version out, it’s currently available for download, you can go in and try the new TDCs out as they currently stand. I’ve been helping the developers out in implementing the devices you see in the beta, and thus far, they’ve done a very good job. It is not perfect, there are elements of the fire control system they have not implemented correctly, and it remains to be seen whether they will keep these elements that way or fix them. And you are correct, typically, the commander, if talking about a submerged shot, or the first watch officer if a surface shot, would be calling the values out. This is how it is implemented in the beta. To answer your question, correct, the S3 computer had an AOB motor that would update the AOB for any change in target bearing caused either by the optics turning, or your own U-boat turning. Range was not updated, in other words, the computer did not work like a position keeper like the US device did, but rather simply was able to update AOB, since the angular change in bearing will always equal angular change in angle on bow. The computer takes advantage of this fact.

@@m.hamacher7881 Thanks for the added information. I think I will not try the Beta. Buggy games turn me off very quickly so I will impatiently wait for a more stable version. Cheers.

Hi, sure! Happy to help. What kind of documents do you have and what are you looking for? Can find me on Discord as stosstrupp

Yeah, but he knows his stuff. You are throwing the kid away with the bath water.

Thank you for your points. One of the things I intended was for this delivery to sound natural and be natural. I worked only off of rough notes. I will probably never script this if I do end up continuing this series. I don’t want to sound canned by any means, it is conversational and meant to be that way. If there are any factual mistakes, please point them out and I will be happy to revise.

@@m.hamacher7881 Yeah its good as is. Please do a Uboat game tutorial on the C/37 and S3 tdc and fire systems. I know your wolfpack explaination video is basically 1 to 1 with the historical S3 and therefore the Uboat one, but I think it be able to get a lot of attention. Concise videos for getting data with historical methods would be excellent too, so it can be easily linked inconversation. Trying to convince the devs to get rid of unnecesary immersion breaking UI elements when unlocked. Im sure your voice in the forum would carry much more weight than mine

@@tequila_tibbs7938 will definitely consider doing this, thanks!

@@m.hamacher7881 Mods working in beta: "Decimal speed display"; "Attack disk"; "No auto-alarm"; "No halo"; "Sinking physics overhaul 2"; "Uboat console" The most necessary being the first two listed. I like the console so I can cheat in more officers: 2 radio, 2 engines, 3 leaders from the start. But obviously that isn't essential. To access the beta, select "unstable, unstable" from the properties / beta tab in steam

This is Wolfpack, by Usurpator Games

Thanks! Glad it has helped!

Thanks! I’ve been helping the devs implement their new TDC, which will be more in line with the real device (the mod has several inaccuracies). When it is released, I will probably do another video.

The AOB is always relative to your sight line to the target (the angle between this sight line and the target’s bow).

Perhaps it is because Doppelkopf exists, and so Germans play that instead when they have four players.

You’re welcome! All are great titles. Wolfpack is very novel with the multi-crew boat experience. And they just came out with the interactive diesels and e-motors, which are fun. It also provides the opportunity as a navigator to do dead reckoning. Silent Hunter 3 is a classic, for its diverse selection of boats and the campaign. My personal favorite is Silent Hunter 5 with TWOS supermod, as that actually does allow you to do full celestial navigation, which adds a whole new level to the experience.

@@m.hamacher7881 Awesome I think modded silent hunter might be the way to go because I also value an authentic campaign. Much appreciated

No worries if you can’t discuss it

Hi! It will be very close to reality. I haven’t used it yet but have seen videos of it so I could provide feedback, and what I saw was very promising.

Fantastic!

I don’t recall seeing any specific examples but it is safe to assume they were quieter and that the commanders’ handbook is accurate there. That said, I also haven’t seen too many examples of operating on electrics when attacking, even from within (occasionally but not many examples) in KTBs. There is so much ambient noise (the sea, merchants etc) that it would be very difficult to pick up U-boat engines or motors. Mostly I see examples of electrics on the surface when entering/leaving the berth (easier to reverse on electrics, and many U-boats had non-reversible diesels anyway), and operating in confined areas like say a fjord, where the diesels could be heard with the naked ear.

@@m.hamacher7881 Thank you If you're interested, the developer is currently very active on the forums, and is listening to constructive criticism. Would be great to have your voice there

Exactly, this game is called Wolfpack, by Usurpator Games, on Steam. Highly recommended!

@@m.hamacher7881 k thanks, i love submarine simulators I also have crush depth, these are so real and well made!