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Excellent illustrations

He explains well, he also should have used diagrams to explain unshared memory part. But thankx

4:37 Are you going to use a matrix for the logic in the next verision 🤣

Is Golem like Temporal?

He just gave a 2 hour talk in 44 minutes.

Good Presentation

You're very smart :)

Nice presentation and slides, thank you for sharing! Is there a repo with demo code?

I understand a web-application can be accessed via a browser (from mobile/desktop).. but where is it hosted? For example, could a web-application hosted on a PC access the USB hardware peripherals connected to it, or would a pure Flutter Desktop application be required? Haven't seen any Flutter Desktop examples that talk to hardware. Also, a hello-world Augmented-Reality app using Flutter (ar_flutter_plugin / arcore ) would be great! Not sure with how much precision an image be overlayed onto the camera screen, but I'd like to make android app that can find components from a circuit board! For example, if you have a sheet of paper with a grid of squares, say 50x50.. if A4 is said/entered, could AR use a fiducial on the paper to calculate precisely how far into the grid it needs to place an appropriately scaled marker (scaling it based on the the angle and how close the camera is to the sheet). BTW, I understand has the Flutter framework uses state-management as its philosophy (ex. Fred Grott), but what do you think of Flet (Python for flutter)? On the "Flutter Clutter" blog they mention some cool projects featured in the 2022 "Flutter Puzzle Hack" contest.. any idea if they're going to do another?

Great job Kev, really excited for the Flutter/WASM future

That calling WASM from excel demo 🤯

WASM ❤

This is awesome. I'm glad I found this talk. I was looking to kick the WASM (and embedded) tires after the Swift 6.0 release, but I bumped into a whole different Swift Wasm based on 5.10. This is what I was looking for. That sent me down a rabbit hole of confusion. Great talk! Thanks! Also, thank you for making the example publicly available.

Write once run everywhere - what's ground braking here? Java has been around for decades

Amazing talk, very well explained in simpler words, thanks a lot for it!

Money makes the world go around. *What about Flutter-web-stripe support.* Without solving this gap, there is no way to hop into the Flutter-web development train, sorry.

Amazing talk, thank you for diving so deep. I really appreciated the level of detail you gave

Holy moly! You compiled a shell environment AND nodejs to webassembly to run in the browser!? That's unbelievable! Does the Nodejs here support napi extensions? Do you have a link to the playground? Do you have a link to the sources? This is _exactly_ what I need - I'd love to build on top of it

Flutter to go to the moon

I'd really love to know how to set up this project from scratch and successfuly get the wasm working with @_extern and, also getting the hot reloading working

next time give each person a mic

Promo-SM

Java write once, Debug everywhere

I have my jaw drop when you demo-ed the excel one. Damn!

This guy sounds like one of those smart, dumb people, who's also 40 years old. Do you want to build something. Can I say that? Can you.

Mayby more code or demo to show me the improve or fution, such as kotlin in web how to use with react, you know that even rust wasm provide the react and yum to build web app.

I am sorry but Flutter makes no sense in the web why use something else when JavaScript is the web standard Flutter is great for mobile that s it

what a terrible presentation

Google is that hard to have SEO friendly web/website app in Flutter 😢

Every single time I hear Flutter pitch speech stuffed with benchmarks putting Flutter in a spotlight, I swear, every single time I immediately follow one of the example app links and end up with a janky app with terrible UX. Oh, let me try this text input field - keyboard appears and app yeets you to another dimension and text input is nowhere to be seen. I'm talking about Material 3 app mentioned on the slides. I love Dart lang, I'd really love using it for web development, but this whole "Flutter for web" narrative is just one big lie.

Is this tool/plugin still in test? I don't how to debug wasm with js in an full process like you show in the video.

Too much magic going on here. I wonder how does recovery actually works, specially for time sensitive workloads or random internal inputs: - Your WASM program dies, so it needs to be resurrected on another node. - How many events need to be replayed on the cloned WASM program to get to the state the program was when it crashed? - How long does it all take? - What happens if the program was running for days, months or years before crashing? won't you have a long down time until it resumes somewhere else? - What if the running state of the crashed program involved calculations using time or random data (auto generated keys) as sources and those did not interact with the host, but were only internal to the WASM program memory? is the WASM running memory being replicated or snapshoted? that seems expensive BTW. Very interesting how that could be done thought. I do not think the app running on Golem can be completely oblivious to the constraints the platform imposes: apps that might reply differently to the same inputs depending on randomly generated data or the wall clock will not be reproducible, so they should be negated those somehow, or they should asume reality does not really exist for them... If the platform is going to intercept random source generator interactions or private key generation to replay and fake it later, that is a security issue, for instance. You cannot fully isolate apps from reality. And in reality, shit happens. Another thing, you are NOT deleting databases, you are just hidding them from app developers. Databases will be used to store the events that will have to be replayed as needed. Same goes for Kubernetes or network serialization, that will still exist in a way or another on the Golem platform level. or below It might be a good simplification and might reduce duplication and increase overall productivity, but someone will still have to write and maintain databases, schedulers and network serializations.

Great work, it was quite interesting-EGLD is the future.🚀

That's....really boring! It's just another iteration of "the thing we could already do, but in the browser." Jeff even says, "there are no VMs", and then has to clarify, "just WASM"(a VM). Then they share the screens and do the CRDT thing and he goes, "it's like we both SSH'd into a shared server, except there's no server!" But there IS a server - it's the one that's exposed by the service worker! Huh, yeah, it's almost as if we should go back and fix the UX around the actual OS instead of doing whatever this is.

Great!

Awesome

Great explanation and enormous work behind it, congratulations to the entire MultiversX team. 💯🤝👏👏👏👏 It's time to build.

is SEO gonna be totally ignored now?

"Super easy, barely an incovenience" ~ Ryan Goerge I see what u did there. Btw, the speech was tight.

Not WAOS :( xP

The dream is getting closer and closer to being realized. #flutter #web

Guys, please reduce the volume of the intro! Otherwise cool presentation, thanks!

Closures closures closures. Please resolve issue 798 in AssemblyScript! Everything else seems very exciting, but it's completely useless without closures because rewrites from JS/TS are too unwieldy without this ubiquitous core feature.

Fuckin hell.

Really cool BUT if you are starting from scratch and want to take inspiration from stuff like smalltalk, why not listen to Alen Kay and not try to repeat the same 50 years old Unix design?

This is next level

This is really cool stuff. I am having a tiny bit of trouble seeing the use case but I think thats just because its early. The tech here though is epic.

awesome. Mozart's Ghost! The hottest band on the internet!

Cool presentation!