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Bay over bae anyday!

This was interesting. Why does Chloe matter then? Someone tried to tell me the ending is not about letting Chloe die and moving on, despite the game heavily implying that that is the case.

“As you can tell I can’t pronounce anything” the self awareness lol

Also the point that the rude Max makes is more of "If you truly care about other people and not yourself why don't you show them that unless you are protected by the consequence-free superpowers?". Throughout the game we see what happens if you don't care about people around you. They can perish in any moment because life is that strange and cruel sometimes. So the main morals of the story are don't second guess yourself and appreciate what you have until it lasts. It the story of growing up, about facing tough reality for what it is and still progressing through life while still cherishing people that are still around you. And also the game is very much about love that love that should be shared instead of being hidden away due to some doubts

It's on the freaking contrary, my dude. If she kills Arcadia Bay that means that she will go with her powers to the end. And if she did it once and.killed hundreds of people why wouldn't she do it again when the cataclysms keep following her in Los Angeles or around the world? Two girls with no education or family go to Los Angeles? Are you sure they she will not use her powers in order not to get shot when stealing food?) It means she will go to the end with her powers, doesn't care about other people, did not accept the guilt for the death of her friend whom she had left alone for so long. This means she did not grow as a character, could not leave her childhood behind which sometimes means facing death and tragedies straight on instead of thinking for the whole game how it could have happened. Max grows as a character only if she kills Chloe. Because she stops second guessing herself and cherishes the moments in time which she has and people around her whom she loves until they are still alive. She also doesn't get superpowers if she returns right before she used it for the first time if she doesn't try to save Chloe and faces the guilt. The fun part of the game is that it could have been her powers fantasy about how things could have been. In that sense the game alliutes to the mind of a child that keeps dreaming about how things could have been and about other realities which they will make real through magic powers, quick resolutions and not facing the reality as harsh as it is. Also, as some commenters have already pointed out, her powers had nothing to do with busting Nate and Jefferson if Chloe dies. Nate has a mental breakdown, drugs Jefferson with him, shows the body of Rachel, that keeps attention away from Kate so she is not pressured to jump. The dumb part about it is that some characters like Warren did not get a chance to change while facing a bully is Nate is busted early on. That means Max has fewer reasons to like him

I personaly read the games ending as the oppocite of yours, Since se went on autopilot or something after "photojumps" I assumed that in the sacrefice Cloie ending, she never found out about her powers, and had to live whit the choises she made the first time around, Eg never saving or reconecting whit Cloie, and therefor grow as a person. I see the Sacreficing Bay ending as her saving Cloie before anything else, Cloie has Died and died again, and I dont think it will change, I thing that ending will have her continuing have her using her powers in order to "rectify" her inaction, unable to face it, In this ending, she never faces how she let her die, But thats just my Interpitation...

for me the best ending is sacrificing arcadia bay. There are so many good moral reasons for saving the city and sacrificing chloe but i think that the empty that leaves a person who is so important for you cannot be replaced by the rest of the city. During the whole game we tried to save Chloe, we even changed so many realities that sacrifice her can be considered going against what we have done during the 5 episodes. Saving Chloe is obviously the most egotistical choice but for real as human beings nobody has the courage to sacrifice the only person that cares about you. If you think that you in the same situation as max could have the courage to do such a destructive choice you have my respect but it’s quite impossible even if you’re the most good person on earth, the reason it’s simple: we are all humans with emotions and feelings that we can’t control. So for me sacrifice arcadia bay is the best final maybe it’s not moral but it’s the most human final possible because i repeat we do not have the courage to sacrifice our “best friend” only because we are only human

the EASY choice is to save the town???

The game's ending doesn't make sense, however much one wishes to believe it does. If the problem starts with a predetermined event happening, the problem, itself, has evolved beyond its start. If you let a person die, after experiencing days of history, your initial behavior, saving a life meant to be killed, won't change the fact you also cannot be 100% certain that your actions going forward will result in the best possible outcome. Chloe dies? You stopped somebody from committing suicide. In most cases, 'you,' the one meant to exist, is complacent in events, and the 'you' that occurred via a paradox will try anything to play their NEW knowledge off as "It's just me being normal," through wisdom and foresight that didn't exist in the first place. In all respect, the paradox gave it to you, and the reason the paradox summons the storm is the fact you HAVE this foresight and decide to use it, when, without said foresight, experience, or know-how, a lot of the game's events would never change, someone will die, someone will be repeatedly bullied, someone will struggle... And the false ending, where you reset the clock on an entire week? Chloe's death is just the first of many things you must ignore. You cannot break the script, say certain words, or be the influence on others, to change predestined events. It was a predestined event, itself, that caused the storm. You watch in horror as Nathan goes to prison, instead of dying, but someone more innocent ends up dying, instead of being hospitalized. And you cannot help Alyssa. You probably meet Joyce, which seems logical, but that deviation from your paradox journey doesn't nullify the effect of that journey, either. The 'true' ending is all about going through that journey, and before the final choice, making a conscious and committed decision to save everybody you've helped. You even save the fisherman. In essence, the decisions of the entire game still mattered, and this is why Chloe and Max are canon in the second game. Which makes more sense to the theme of the series. Max was the first of several people with powers, it's not as if the storm is guaranteed NOT to happen from somebody else, with different powers, or someone else to obtain the same gift. While also fulfilling an important prophecy, where Chloe and Max remain friends for life, but also where Chloe escapes Arcadia Bay. I hate the naive and overly-optimistic idea that a band-aid will fix what's pretty much gangrene. Max being complacent isn't a one-stop job, and the entire school becomes a spiritual mindfield where, unless the Tobanga hated Prescotts, it's likely that Max will trigger several death-flags just by breathing incorrectly, or wandering into the bathroom, or discussing Dana's pregnancy test. It doesn't work, and blaming it on 'Chaos Theory' assumes that Max doesn't become chaos, itself. She's already a death flag and it still outright IGNORES chaos theory in practice: Max is not the only person who could inherit the chaos. Anyone, for any reason, any time, any place, will set off a catastrophe that cannot be prevented. It's ridiculous that Max could've 'had' the gift, and the following morning, her best friend jumps off a rooftop, inheriting the powers, herself. Or that Nathan, in the same situation as Max, wouldn't trigger that chaos. In a situation where "Ideal" means you cannot stop one person from dying on their hour, but you can save someone else from dying on theirs, by talking them to a different place? Yeah, Nathan confesses to a murder, outs a celebrity as a serial creep, and these spontaneous changes could've enlightened everybody, brought down the antagonist of their community, and undoubtedly improved everything for the better, but this, as the saying goes, "looks too good to be true," which is shorthand for "Max saved Chloes dad and left Chloe permanently crippled and deteriorating, but Max hadn't even MET Chloe and the storm was still going to happen regardless." The game was poorly written in regards to paradoxes. You cannot have a timeline where you prevent an accident from occurring at thirteen, but the storm happens while you do what you'd normally have done in the following years, only meeting Chloe while the storm was fast approaching... And also have a timeline where the accident happens, you live life as normal, and you become an involved party to the cause of the storm, itself. Because then it contradicts itself. Did Chloe's ruined predetermined death start the storm from Nathan? Did Chloe's declining LIFE trigger the storm from the car accident? Why did one storm take nearly a decade to happen, when the other required less than a week? It's like using "Eternalism" as a crutch for a narrative. "It always happened, it always would, it always will." Because if it's always going to happen on the same day, in no reality, no predestination, will someone find themselves stepping off a bus, to avoid a bomber. Not at the first stop, which is supposed to be safe, not at the fifth stop, which is the moment of the bomb going off. Which just makes the decision take a FULL 180: Beginning of the game, one could presume that Chloe was still alive, before Max woke up. Or that she died and Max found their OWN way to the lighthouse. End of the game, one CANNOT presume Chloe died, but, if the beginning of the game happened WITHOUT her surviving, then any decision to 'prevent' the storm is shortsighted, at best. The 'Sacrifice Bay' is the only choice that actually leads to an outcome that isn't a complete repeat of the beginning of the game. That just makes the canon ending less romantic and more realistic. And makes the none-canon ending less rational and more of a very bad, thoughtless wish. It's possible just by choosing to 'Save'' everybody, that you created the storm in the first place, and magnitudes were given to it, over the course of 'chaos,' for years. Each groundhog day, the end of the loop becomes more violent.

I'll have to rewatch the three movies, but I'm almost positive they skip many of the moments from the manga, including the 100 man fight. This moment is critical to Guts and Caska's relationship. I believe the movie also skips Caska's flashback. It makes it less obvious that Guts and Caska like each other and fast tracks everything too much in my opinion. This is why the 97 anime was better in my opinion. By the way, golden age arc in the manga never really had any hints of fantasy elements until Zodd, either. So... 97 is literally the closest to the manga as far as I've seen. I'll have to rewatch the movies to be sure. Still, I really love to see more videos on Berserk. You did a wonderful job. Thanks for making content.

Always loved the music

I thought there was clearly a wrong ending, which was saving Chloe. Save one life or lose potentially hundreds. Also with the number of times Chloe dies the universe is telling you her fate

Just wondering if you plan to do an "ending explained" for LIS2 similar to the video you did for LIS?

The unexpected eclipse and the two moons tell me that two timelines have overlapped. If I was Max, I would have saved Chloe at the very beginning, and then never use my power again and let events unfold on their own and hope the police catch the serial killer on their own without my help, even if that means that Kate dies (or maybe send some clues anonymously to the State Police [not David] about the barn and the secret bunker)...

I disagree with a few things at the beginning but overall awesome video man.. deserves more views. Even got a little teary eyed realizing why i relate to Rocky so much

From whole video I especially liked the thesis about changing something in your past, which at the same time changing your personality itself.

An excellent summary of the events and motivations behind the developers' decisions. I also basically agree with the conclusions about character growth and learning responsibility and consequences for your actions and so on. However, I think you got the ending flipped. Saving Chloe is not rejecting her time travel powers, it's embracing the timeline where she used them to save her friend and letting everyone else die. Accepting that some things are out of her control and her actions have consequences means going back to the beginning and not breaking the timeline to begin with, which means letting Chloe die. And like @jyllianrainbow points out in a different comment, there's more to Max's relationships and the good people of Arcadia Bay than Chloe.

Honestly I agree about the so much promise part especially. Like why bring up how different wand cores affect your magic slightly but not add something little so you can actually see the effects. Or how your choices don’t really matter cause when I hate a side character and pick all the most aggressive options I’m still their best friend even though I hate them. And if I pick power at the end the “bad ending” it doesn’t do anything. Like the games over at least let me have a boost in attack power to destroy enemies more since I decided to be bad. Good game just very strange decision making for stuff that very easily could have been added.

funily enough, EVERXTHING you said is 100% true in my opinion. Also good job at showing it

Apathy is death

no one likes france

Um... y would max get attached to ppl shes barely met? Chole she met since she was little which is basically almost like a sister so i rather give up everything for my sister. Also arcadia bay max doesnt love it she basically went bck for her photography career she didnt go just for fun.

I noticed in life is strange, it starts off with Max having a dream of a EF6 tornado, heading towards Arcadia bay proper, then she wakes up in classroom eventually has to go to the bathroom then witnesses Nathan killing Chloe only after witnessing in the murder, she discovers she can rewind time. Why can she?. what’s the whole point of having the ability. By the end of the story gives you two choices throughout the story they keep giving hints that there is only one choice. “You’ll do the right thing”. Whatever that means. After you decide the fate of Chloe in the town. Then the storm ends. Life is strange 2 and true colors. Both Daniel and Alex have powers that they both use and get the keep. While Max, by the end is supposed to have learned a lesson to not even use her powers to begin with. As she only found out about after witnessing the murder of Chloe. Arcadia bay with the looters where is tornado references. The vortex club. The Prescott’s starting a storm shelter boom. It is as if the storm was inevitable, regardless. It’s as if the town had a prophecy of a storm coming. I play life is strange a few times with Max as. Straight,Bi and 100% Gay and still decided to save Chloe. Watching Chloe develop as a character only to erase all her growth. Did not sit right with me. The only tough. Thing was knowing whether or not Kate was safe. If she was still at the hospital waiting for her parents, she most likely survived the storm. Perhaps her parents never show being victims of the storm. The hospital was nowhere near Ground Zero. So it made me confident in my decision on saving Chloe.

The storm was for sure rachels fault like wind powers and just the story seems to be hinting at that chloe deserves better did wish we got to see more happy moments for chloe and max or max and warren or whatev just would be cool chloe and max and just to relatable which i think is what they was going for

Why Tho, Non Of This Adds Up, Why Did She Get The Power, What's The Point, And Why Give Her The Vision If All She's Gonna Do Is Cause The Hurricane Anyway?!! 😭

Anyone can choose whatever ending they want, but I think trying to make it a Hill to die on to justify whatever choice you make is f****** annoying. At the end of the day, Chloe was meant to die and the storm was created to save her and to me, it's selfish to change that fate in exchange for other lives. I just can't justify killing or traumatising an entire town of people to save 1 person who was meant to die anyway. Sorry Chloe stans but it is kind of selfish. Do with that what you will. I won't be reading responses.

Also the stalkers do patrol the area. This is why after you lose them, you shouldn't go into the same direction the stalker when to, even if you need go that way

Chloe = Worst Best Friend!!!

I think you're a bit harsh at times. While it doesn't invalidate the point you try to make, I think calling max avoidant for trying to save chloe's dad is... especially hard on her, considering how selfish it would be to go "nah I'm gonna let him die so i can have my emotional growth"

samuel is one of the most underrated characters

I love this video so much you should get so much more people seeing this this is a true beautiful message of masculinity

great video man ❤

So basically every character is emotionally unstable

This game had such a dreamy atmosphere and at the time, absolutely broke me with its story. I've never wanted to be in a game universe as much as I did back then.

Why Capcom hasn't at the very least ported this game to modern consoles is beyond me. It's on Japan's PSN, but not for the rest of the globe. I still have my PS2 copy, but it's such a pain to try and hook up my ps2 to my hdtv.

I'd kill Chloe even if I didn't have to sacrifice the bay.

Welp, now they ruined Overwatch as well.

I just don’t like the sacrifice Chloe ending because it invalidates all the intimate relationship building they’ve build up throughout the entire game and Max will still feel the guilt as he said (do y’all think it’s better to sacrifice your love or your pride)😔

Corporations have perverted the meaning of "woke" and are using it to enrich themselves by making changes to pop culture knowing it's bait for rabid right-wingers on social media. It's used as a tool to keep us divided b/c corporations know the Left will be blamed and vilified when it's rich CEOs hiring the people that are making these changes they know will mobilize chuds to vote for Republican Fascism.

I dont think you actually watch my content

I'm confused by what "woke" means in this video. It seems like you're just taking things you don't like and slapping "woke" on it like that explains anything. The big studios only making remakes, reboots, and "safe" movies is a real problem. I don't know what's woke about it though. I don't understand what's woke about The Last Jedi, it was contentious with fans because it tried to flip the Star Wars formula. You pointed out at the start of the video that the lack of diversity in hollywood was a real issue. But then you jumped right into calling the addressing of that issue as woke? I would argue that issue is still there and the big companies only pretend to be progressive when it makes them money. They use diversity hires as a front to hide the powerful, rich, white men running things behind the scenes

Preeeeeeeeaaaaaach

Wow u ate this

The Drinker knows "Story" because he's a writer, that's why he's relevant. He's calling out crap -- and there is a lot of it. I have no problem with his criticism of the woke agenda. Woke is post-modern deconstructionism and I want no part of it.

Your full comparison between Hollywood and RUclips channels that concentrate on woke issues breaks down very easily. You say they complain about hollywood doing the same things but then concentrate on the same subjects themselves. The difference is thats what those channels were specifically made for while hollywood is suppose to be creative and artistic with cutting edge advancements. A woke exposing RUclips channel is just that. The creator of that channel know if you wanna watch a prank video your gonna go find a prank channel..its not even close to being fair to compare hollywood as a whole to a RUclips sub-genre

The end portion becomes rather nonsensical. When media becomes so obnoxiously poor and hangs onto relevance only by attempting to be controversial, an equally venomous response is not only logical but should be expected. Balance is ideal, but not realistic. I see little reason to give bad movies, games or TV shows credit for their breadcrumbs when the meal itself is garbage. I will agree though that the old Star Wars movies are definitely overrated and don't at all hold up to scrutiny, many older films don't. But I don't think new and different should be praised for simply being new and different. Failure is expected, but when you don't improve success will never be yours.

Well you’re wrong. It’s ok to be wrong though.

One side makes money and one side doesn't. One side gives their customers what they want and the other doesn't.

What people painfully DO NOT understand is this: The objective of those that pull the levers of power is DIVISION! Divide & Conquer is their age old strategy. It does not matter if it's Woke or Anti-woke, Right or Left, Black or White, Vaxx or Anti-Vaxx, etc, etc.... as long as the plebs are arguing, they are winning! It is entirely manipulated and none of it will stop until those who are truly to blame are held responsible!... Unfortunately, everyone is already too tribalized, programmed & indoctrinated to even understand & overcome this incredibly simple point! Total idiocracy is almost complete!

Thought provoking and well presented. Thank you.