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A warrior in plate armor using a two-handed hammer should be immovable and impossible to interrupt.

You said infernal cry gives your hammer a2nd free aftershock? What gives the first aftershock?

Not being able to scale more life and regen on a Rauder/Warrior has to be one of the dumbest things ever. I kind of get you can get very high life rolls now on gear but there still needs to be more scaling on that part of the tree. Noticed there does not even seem to be %life on jewels which I found a bit odd, maybe it is just something they haven't added yet.

You Just played the wrong warrior. Shockwave totem does 1million damage per second. I can one shot trial master if I throw down font of rage before the fight. 3 totems kills him. In maps you can't die.

I literally quit the game because I went warrior first I regret it so much now I’m waiting for Templar I hope it’s not like this

I started with Warrior and it was a pain in the butt most of the time, then monk and now bow mercenary, not going back anytime soon

That atlas bullet hell doesn't exist!

How are you getting so many chaos orbs?

Warrior should have auto parry if u doing dual wield or 2hand. Passive skill that wont interrupt u while casting slow ass skills.

I love stampeding and a white mob turns me right around, quite comical, or when I start a stampede into a pack that in the BACK has 7 vaal mob that throw bombs which yes I could have rolled out but that reaction time was something else but anyway stampede into a pack, I don't clear the pack and now I got bombs behind me and I am blocked in the front. Also breaches I have only completed 1 breach and I have done over 30 of them, I just get swarmed and stampede is my only clear and I get stunned trying to cast it when swarmed I am still playing warrior I put so much time and investment that I feel I need to continue which sucks. I have a Tier 3 weapon worth I would say 5 divines so my weapon is great and even has attribute requirement reduction so it's amazing but the warrior man, I know I should swap but I can't I work and have limited time so I am stuck hating the only viable play style atm until maybe I get a VERY VERY good cultists hammer and can maybe swap to a boneshatter build which was more reliant on aoe clearing over stampede. So basically hoping I get lucky RNG cultists hammer now

its early acess

How do people have 2 characters that high of level? Time?

"I am a Titan, an immovable object. Nothing can stop my stampede, crushing the enemies as I run past them!" _1 mob blocks my entire path_ ....... Yeah, so much for being a Titan.

Protect me from harm is not that great, read the rest of the text, it is not bad, but you cannot use acrobatics with it and the damage reduction is not that significant. The monk is very good though, I am currently leveling my shockwave warrior and it feels very good, however, those are the totems and I see your point of him being clunky

agree, until they add new shit to this class, its garbage for now...

Reject titanity. Return to monk.

I switch form Tytan 67 to Monk now. Warrior now is like short range caster and not mele as much now....and speed attack is multiplicative. Once axes and swords will come out and we will have Paladin and Druid talents warrior can be good. Rage have much potential imho. Stampide can be good but u need speed attack (faster animation) to make it good but heavy armor and shield and so much pasive took speed attack from u.....

warrior would be fine but the mace skills suck imo

If you choose a monk and use warrior's build it's still the same. What's wrong with warrior's skills are the animation attacks, very slow and opened to incoming attacks.

Problem is you're not playing the warrior right... Either karen build (corrupted shout) or AOE grenade crossbow build lol

Kripparian made a cool warrior ES build. Insanely tanky

Putting my 93 titan away until GGG addresses the issues. Playing infernalist and it's feeling way better.

so bizarre that the basic weapon skill is probably the best single target skill mace has. why cant we get something like heavy strike etc...? Also boneshatter getting worse / unusabl,e later in the game when you start accidently "fully" stunning enemies instead just priming them felt REALLY bad. Its a really weird aspect to have to deal with, having to constantly minmax having enough of +stun to quickly prime enemies for stun, but not too much or else they just skip the primed phase.

I'm playing chrono with maces shield, I just ditch armour, and switch to energy shield, its much2 better

Warrior needs to spend tons of skill points on STR to use weapons str is almost useless with just 2 health per stat when you're doing high end stuff. Also need to migrate way too far for any alternative defensive options. Wasting even more skill points. Also needs accuracy for actual big booms other than HoG or else you won't crit. I don't even need to mention all of your attacks making you vulnerable to all sorts of effects by either rooting you for several seconds or taking you all kinds of places at the sight of a small bug on your way.

It is not fun.. default passives poorly designed.. I made Blood mage and Chronomancer but picked warrior skills.. oddly they can easily go monk / evasion / attack speed / energy shield route and still retain useful passives + skills from ascendency. Still bad compared to my monk :D

Should have picked D4 if you're a melee enthusiast.

making the swap too brother... lvl 91 titan parked

Yep, I do agree warriors are the red headed stepchildren of GGG at this point however they are my mains (88 warbringer and 83 titan). I feel a lot of people suffer from the overly "simplified" armor info in the character sheet which is polite speech for "lying character sheet". What you see there is NOT what you are getting 99% of the time. Unless you go balls deep on armor it does not do nearly as much as the tooltip. I've been running a few 10 floor ultimatums on my armorstacking titan and simply put: it does work but its a nightmare to get enough of it, I currently have him sitting at 40k without buffs up which lets him comfortably eat most phys hits in a level 80 ultimatum (impending doom giant circle does about 600-700, volatiles from dead mobs about 50ish). The investment cost in terms of passivepoints to get there is huge though since I have 472% increased armor from passives and a few jewels as well as 399% increased defenses from equipped shield. This all leaves me with less than 20 points dedicated to doing damage at level 83 and naturally elemental damage still wrecks me (apart from fire, I eat fire hits fine due to "heatproofing" notable). I do have some room to grow though. I have replacements lined up for some gearpieces if I can solve my resists that will take me to 50k+ unbuffed but I think 60k+ is possible with even better gear, the MAIN problem is that in order to really stack your armor that high you have a very uncomfortable choice to make regarding the boots: Life or movement speed? In the future I plan on getting a juicy str/int shield to pad some energy shield on top for elemental maps (I did run a T15 with ele weakness + extra lightning but that was very shaky at only 71 maxres due to brass dome penalty). As a side note regarding skills, most slams SUCK... Stampede is great up to mid-tier but after that you no longer have the survivability to handle it OR if you go deep into armor as I did you don't have the aoe to make it good. Sunder is kindof in the same boat, it was great in poe 1 since it didnt have that forced "waitingperiod". My titan runs resonating shield (with armor explosion) + boneshatter for clear and hammer + bleed on bosses. I sometimes open with a juicy supercharged slam as well (found it cheap on trade since the tooltip doesnt show that they halfway "unnerfed" it). On my warbringer I lean more into the fire skills (oh the irony... the "armor break" ascendancy) with molten blast doing most of the clear (armor explosion, scattershot, magnified, fork) and perfect strike slapping the bosses... I swapped from hammer since Zarokh trolls me every time I try to drop it. Having a dual +skill weaponswap with totem skills set up for it is also a nice safe option to deal with nasty rares in sanctum from a safe distance.

Can stampede do what its namesake suggests? LOL I ain't stampeding in its current iteration. I'm locked in the animation and often times it puts me in a compromised position. The warrior class as a whole needs more time to bake. It's play style is good on paper, it just doesn't fit this game.

Same here. Got a lvl 90 Warbringer. Corruptin Cry feels awesome and is exactly my thing. But the state of Life and Armour makes me sad. In Poe1 id just go ES at this point but you need to invest too heavily into the bottom side of the tree to get damage. So the only defence you can get are Block and armour.

Its like they didn't kmow what to do with the warrior, maces are slow and only bonus is aftershocks but again the damage they do is bad in comparison to any monk attack which not only does good damage but has elements bult into it, ive cleared bosses it took me 10 mink to beat as a warrior as a monk in 2 min...plus armour sucks... Give warrior skills more fire damage to its attacks, make aftershocks stronger... I could clear mobs easy with warrior, boss fights were annoying

Try Monk?

This is why my warrior is level 3 lol. Is your monk build posted somewhere??

Svalinn, if none have mentioned it, but you have to spec into it.. as warbringer...

I have to disagree, carnarius proved warrior can absolutely steamroll through endgame content while being actually tanky(AoE maxin works even without cultists greathammer tech, which "Cloud Casts Magic Missile" showed that's possible, even with cheap gear). I played monk,merc and deadeye all around to lvl 90, and done t18s with all of them(and uber xesht) so I have some idea how other classes play. Sure warrior feels a litlle clunky but its not even close to unplayable. Started my warrior few days ago, lvl 76 atm went from t1 to t10 maps in 1 day and still having a blast :D

My entire set of feelings around the mace builds is this - CLUNKY. There is no single mace skill that FEELS good. They "work", and when the armor explode was bugged, rolling slam was an absolute blast to play, but it showed off the real problem with mace melee - armor explode was your entire kit. Stampede/mace strike/rolling slam without armor explode are low tier skills. Not to mention some skills feel like the scaling isn't working. My rolling slam build with 5 supports does 60% of the damage mace strike does with the same supports. its a 2.5 second attack from start to finish and it does less damage than bonk. Stampede, even with a 5k dps tool-tip seems to blast mobs for way more than my 18k rolling slam. Earthquake on a frickin 3 second detonation is madness, MADNESS I say, and the damage isn't high enough to compensate. Standing still in ANY encounter (white mobs/rares/bosses/breach/ritual) is basically a death sentence. Hell you can start the wind up for stampede, and by the time you start moving, 4 exploding chaos bombs, or molten orbs will make their way to you and detonate, killing you before a skill even activates. Some rituals end up with 5-8 balls coming for you at all times. Sunder totems, with resonating shield for armor break is probably the best build for warrior. You can do weapon swap tree for a lvl 40 sunder totem x3, each with like 100k dps and resonating shield gives you active block which mitigates most of the damage coming your way. Clunky. If every spell caster and bow/staff user had 1.5 second animations for every attack, warrior MIGHT be competitive.

ive been playing energy shield warrior... i have like 9k energy shield that regens 3k per second... im literally unkillable... and just stampede, slams normal.... 75% block, armor and energy shield... i solo 16 maps, 17 maps, 18 maps, no problem... only time i die is when im stuck and cant do anything, but im fixing it with attack speed nodes and skil speed nodes...

If they want the warrior really that slow and stuff, they need to make him a real walking tank. Armor is trash u are slow as f and u also get even more slowed when only wearing armor gear on top u get wrecked and oneshoted. Feels really bad.

Warriors are not bad, maces are. You can litteraly use a quarterstaff on your warrior 😂

I leveled a Titan to 80 and then for some reason started leveling a Warbringer. The Warbringer didn't last too long though. I needed a break from Warrior for a lot of the reasons you've mentioned. I switched to a Ranger having absolutely no knowledge on the class and it's insane how much less frustrating the game is now. I really hope GGG improves Warrior and Maces. If they don't do something to make Mace feel A LOT better, then I think it'll be the least played weapon when there are more melee options available.

I literally told my friends this a few days ago. All facts! GJ!

Monk is just easy mode and overtuned... Warrior needs a lot of help but Monk will not continue to scale for free the way it does now so the comparison is short lived in my opinion.

The worst thing about Warrior is that he for some reason got a MASSIVE wind-up to ALL of his abilities, it feels bad that your abilities got no time to even activate without being disrupted by some fast enemy that is in your face. Take sunder as an example, you stand still to wind your weapon, you jump and THEN you attack, and by then you might be dead by something under your character... Another really bad thing about warrior is that you can be disrupted while casting hammer of the ancients or something and then it goes back in to a mega long cooldown without being used...

i am playing titan with the splash dmg mace and i invest alot into AOE, clearing any map super easy breaches are really easy too, just the one thing i absolutely hate is that our gear have movespeed penalties on them, like wth is that??, titan cant get any Ms nodes on tree at alllll, we can only get boots and maybe an amulet anoint, thats all, its crazy how slow the class is, while other players clear maps x10 faster with 50ex budget hahahah.titan skills need a serious rework , increasing attackspeed, skill speed and such stuff.

The best way to play warriors now are totems, self cast is totally inferior. You can have 3 guys stampeding around doing more damage than yourself 😅

Shield? lol

I really love my warri but godmn we do suck compared to other classes.... we are just to clunky the windeups are so ass..... to need that much def and still be so weak is ass... im lvl 94 atm but i also gave up went monk

im a very similar titan but went less armor because i was around 70% and found it was so gimped i just spec'd into more aoe, attack speed and rage for more damage to hopefully clear faster before taking the damage. its been okay and more doable. doing t15-18s but will occasionally just just 1shot or poofed somehow. guessing it's armor/chaos resists being shit. and yeah its just slow still. hopefully they fix on patch

I think 2 things about mace skills : - They were designed for a very specific kind of people, which is why most of us hate the playstyle - It's the weapon type GGG was the least sure about, which is why they didn't release the other options. It makes more players play them, giving GGG more feedback.