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@@profitglen with all due resepct, What Kind of bible you read, if any???

@@geno4godwell, I’ve read plenty of Bibles. I spent many years devoting my life to Bible study and prayer. I also attended Lee University for Pastoral Ministry for two years. Can you tell me what the main belief was for the formation 500 years of the church? And what did most of the theological seminaries teach?

@@evgeny_radist тёзка, я ж не зря после долгих исследований у вас 28дби заказывал. У нас это актуально как нигде. А эту у друга сын купил, друг вообще слепой, меня смонтировать попросили, я как на 75ом провод глняул сразу решил коврнуть эту "майму", а там полный треш по сборке комплектующим... Ну в общем что тебе объяснять.

К сожалению это уже только память...

@@geno4god да, я знаю. Очень жаль, что нет больше этой команды и этой миссии. Но слово Божье было посеяно во многие души и без плода не осталось.

Please listen RC more carefully. There is an explanation. And there are a lot of concepts and terms in theology which doesn't directly mentioned in the Bible, meanwhile you can trace subsequent doctrines in it. The most prominent example the term and doctrine of Trinity. And so on.

@@geno4god --- I know there are many forms of Calvinism in relation to double-predestination and apparently your Church don’t practice Calvin’s doctrine of double-predestination. Here is the quote from RC Sproul's message; "God has two decrees, positive and negative. In positive decree God involve himself in working faith and creating faith in the hearts of the elect while he simply passes over the non-elect without forcing them into unbelief or creating any kind of fresh evil so it's positive in one hand when he intervenes to create faith negative in the other hand he doesn't intervene and create fresh evil.” unquote. Undeniably, this is not the original teaching of John Calvin but the concept of double-predestination nonetheless is there and it seems RC Sproul stated it in a milder form so that it’s more pleasing to the ears. I believe God is no respecter of persons and as such I don’t believe in the double-predestination doctrine. Please give me some biblical evidence to support your claim on double-predestination. Thank you.

Well, let's begin with terms. I do not apply the term Calvinism as descriptive of the sum of my believes and views. Let's say, Reformed or doctrines of Grace are closer, but also not exhaustive. And there is such a great principal in reformed movement as "Semper Reformanda", which means when Bible shows me some clear understanding of a thing, I definitely accept the side of the Bible and not of any human teacher, leave alone John Calvin no matter how good he can be in any other questions. Now about my approach to settle the issue of so called "DP", matter of fact you can call it whatever you want, but the issue itself stays here - "But our God is in the heavens; He does whatever He pleases." 115:3. Is it Biblical enough? =))) Then well, when He said His first - Let there be..., did he knew full well that such and such individual will end up with Him in heaven, and such and such individual will end up without Him in hell? If you can answer this like me - yes he knew this with absolute certainty, that - "He does whatever He pleases", and still said - Let there be..., so here it is, right there, your issue of "DP", would you accept it or not. If not, so read Philippians 3:15-16. And yes, the purpose and reconciliation of His doing, that is altogether a different issue. Some of it is hidden from us today (Deuteronomy 29:29), but the Bible is absolutely clear that He is 100% good and righteous in all His deeds. (Rom 3:4) I believe what the Bible says 100%

@@93556108 And maybe just better to accept at face value such sayings as Rom.9:11-29??? Pretty clear at my opinion, and election and predestination... (double, single, manifold..., whatever).

@@geno4god #1. you quoted Ps115:3 I fully agree Scripture affirms God's omnipotence by saying that God does whatever he is pleased to do (Psa 115:3; cf. Isa 55:11 and Jer 32:17). However, God's foreknowledge doesn’t necessitate determinism. #2. I quote “Then well, when He said His first - Let there be..., did he knew full well that such and such individual will end up with Him in heaven, and such and such individual will end up without Him in hell?” Of course, God is omniscience, He knows the end from the beginning, He has foreknowledge but the bible never taught that God predestined only His elect to eternal life and He ignored the non-elect that would end up in hell. If you say otherwise, please support it with some biblical evidence. #3. You quoted Philippians 3:15-16 the Context Summary of Philippians 3:12-4:1 explains the proper attitude Christians ought to have on the process of ''sanctification.'' This is the gradual, lifelong path of becoming more and more like Jesus. Our place in eternity is secure from the moment we trust in Christ, but it takes time to see our actions and attitudes change to be like His. In my opinion, these verses is irrelevant to our discussion. #4. Nobody is disputing about God’s goodness and He’s absolutely righteous. But I strongly disagree with Calvinism when they affirmed that those people whom God elects have been predestined for salvation from all eternity. Calvinism holds that anyone who is not among God's elect cannot choose to place faith in Christ and be saved, and Jesus did not die for them. In conclusion, so far there is no biblical evidence to support your doctrine of double-predestination? Thank you.

Ну это дело хозяйское, из моих знакомых рыбаков туда никто не ходит, и про потраву от них же инфо. А так конечно и в москве реке рыбу ловят, только её даже кошки есть отказываются. Вот уточнил даже, была история с компрессорной от ГасьПрома, чего то там наскидавали в озеро, что рыба начала таки дохнуть, говорят "зелёные" даже вмешались, сброс прекратили и вроде как рыба восстанавливается. Ну и дай то Бог.

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Well, I've seen a lot of folks who profess faith today but walk away tomorrow. Apostle John did too: "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us." 1 John 2:19 Here RC talks about not mere profession, but more about personal assurance. It's something more lasting and fruitful compare to "easy believeism". And it it is a false statement that Calvinist is not able to know if he is saved or not till the very end. Only Calvinist can know this for sure, of course if he is for real and sees faith and fruits in his life day after day. By such way only, strong and real assurance comes into your life and you keep going the way in shalom and joy.

@@geno4god Good works (or fruit) is not where assurance of salvation comes from. Because we’re not saved by works, thus works CANNOT prove that we’re saved. Assurance of salvation comes by believing the Word of God and trusting in his promises. It has nothing to do with how we live our lives. Unsaved people can live good moral lives, repent or turn from their sins, but still go to Hell. And saved people can live in sin (which we all do if we’re all honest), and not follow the LORD, and go to Heaven. Why? Because our salvation is not dependent upon us or how we live. It’s 100% on Jesus to save us and KEEP US saved.

Salvation / new heart of flesh / regenerated life is THE 100% THE WORK of God. And even faith and repentance are gifts of His grace. Good works of righteousness, fruits of the Spirit are inevitable evidence of the new redeemed, Spiritual life. If someone claims to have that life but lives in sin and darkness, he is the liar deceiving himself, and there is no truth in him. Read first epistle of John for reference, and do not confuse the cause and the effect. Pursue a holiness without which no one will see the kingdom of God. There is true assurance.

And again, did you even listened to the point RC makes???

@@geno4godThat’s not what the Bible says. 1 John 1:8 says, “If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.” You can’t believe on the Lord Jesus and at the same time say you are sinless. Admitting you are a sinner and living in sin are two different things.

Well, I've seen a lot of folks who profess faith today but walk away tomorrow. "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us." 1 John 2:19 Here RC talks about not mere profession, but more about personal assurance. It's something more lasting and fruitful compare to "easy believeism".

Was this default position determined before creation or after fall only? And if before creation, did God perfectly determined who will be with Him in kingdom and who does not? What do you read in Scripture?

@@geno4god God certainly knew the "choice" that Adam and Eve would make, but He did not decree that would be their choice. The only time in man's history that he had freewill to obey or disobey... they chose to sin....thus all sinned in Adam.

"But our God is in the heavens; He does whatever He pleases." Psalm 115:3 Saying - "Let there be...!" God definitely knew what going to happen next, in His - "let there be...!" is already included your final destiny. If you believe that you are able to screw up God's providence, you simply believe not in the God of the Bible. Another issue is that we do not understand God's acting completely but dare to judge his abilities and intentions despite the saying - "'The secret things belong to Yahweh our God, but the things revealed belong to us..." Deuteronomy 29:29 A good principle - "Where God keeps silence, we'd better shut our mouth too", paraphrasing John Calvin. And yes, there is a great mystery in the origin of evil, so what? Revealed thing is that God is not author of it. I believe in God's revelation. And after all did you even listened the question in that clip? And did you gave a heed to the answer?

jesus said many will believe not be save their are many accounts devil believe and tremble are they save

Where in the Bible have you read - "Jesus died FOR THEM"??? Which Apostol or evangelist ever preached anything like that. In my Bible I read - repent and believe! And that is not a suggestion or humble offer of an option, it's an order. And He died for sins of those who believe. And of course how some from a human race became able to believe - Eph. 2:1-9. There is no contradiction with the message of Paul. But you, meanwhile, are trying to eisegete into the Bible something alien to it.

@@geno4god Wait, "Where in the Bible have you read - "Jesus died FOR THEM"???" Have you... read the Bible? 1John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 1Tim 2: 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. Romans 2:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. Or all other the places where it directly explicitly tells us God's clear *will and desire* for *all* to be saved *and* the actions he took that *all men* might believe and be saved? John 1:6-7? John 1:29? John 3:17? John 17:20-21? 2 Peter 2:1? 2 Peter 3:3-9? What is the "gospel", the "good news", that *you* give to the average Johnny Q. Public on the street? That is, if you're honest and consistent to your Calvinism? "Good news! You might be one of a tiny pre-chosen percentage that God ever wanted, or did anything to save from hell! Probably not, but there's a small chance there is some good news for you! All you have to do is believe on his Son so that you will live - oh sorry, I mean, (if you happen to be of the tiny pre-chosen few) God will just regenerate you to life first, so that you can believe on his Son, so that you can be made alive... uh, wait..." Ephesians 2:1-9 says exactly nothing about some group from the human race not able to believe then exclusively "becoming able" to believe, doesn't say that anywhere there. Nobody is saying that God doesn't command all people everywhere to repent towards his Son. Nobody is saying Christ didn't die for the sins of those who believe. You know what "trying to eisegete into the Bible something alien to it." looks like? Saying that he died and was raised EXCLUSIVELY for some tiny pre-chosen few who are the only ones God ever wanted or ever desired to believe on his Son and be saved. Especially when you have so many places that explicitly directly state the opposite of that. You're preaching Calvinism, not Bible. That's where the contradiction is. Thanks for your time.

@@geno4god You tell me, when you preach to any stranger Johnny Q Public that you meet on the street, what is the "good news" of what God did for him that you tell him? Would love to hear.

eiseges plain and simple. God has one will.

@@travissharon1536 Nope, he has three. He has a decreed will, a revealed will, and a will of disposition. Repent of your Hyper-Calvinistic ways.

@alihoussney7870 I am not a calvinist at all. Calvinism is a doctrine of devils in my opinion. I'm considering becoming coptic orthodox, in fact.

@@travissharon1536 you wish it was a doctrine of devils. Go away with your ignorance.

@@travissharon1536 Go away

8 If I say to the wicked, O wicked one, you shall surely die, and you do not speak to warn the wicked to turn from his way, that wicked person shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand. 9 But if you warn the wicked to turn from his way, and he does not turn from his way, that person shall die in his iniquity, but you will have delivered your soul. 10 "And you, son of man, say to the house of Israel, Thus have you said: 'Surely our transgressions and our sins are upon us, and we rot away because of them. How then can we live?' **** Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel? (Ezekiel 33:11, ESV)****** 12 "And you, son of man, say to your people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him when he transgresses, and as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall by it when he turns from his wickedness, and the righteous shall not be able to live by his righteousness when he sins. 13 Though I say to the righteous that he shall surely live, yet if he trusts in his righteousness and does injustice, none of his righteous deeds shall be remembered, but in his injustice that he has done he shall die. 14 Again, though I say to the wicked, 'You shall surely die,' yet if he turns from his sin and does what is just and right, 15 if the wicked restores the pledge, gives back what he has taken by robbery, and walks in the statutes of life, not doing injustice, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 16 None of the sins that he has committed shall be remembered against him. He has done what is just and right; he shall surely live. 17 "Yet your people say, 'The way of the Lord is not just,' when it is their own way that is not just. 18 When the righteous turns from his righteousness and does injustice, he shall die for it. 19 And when the wicked turns from his wickedness and does what is just and right, he shall live by this. 20 Yet you say, 'The way of the Lord is not just.' O house of Israel, I will judge each of you according to his ways." (Ezekiel 33:12, ESV) So let me ask you, do we want fair? Do we want judgement? No we deserve condemnation and God has the right to send us all into hell and would be righteous and just doing so. But GOD, in his patience long suffering and perfect attributes altogether , saves to glorify the savior Christ Jesus who redeemed and delivered a people to himself as God said he would do. We can’t take a verse standing alone and push our thoughts into it, we have to read the whole passage and see why it was said and in what context and to who and when , it’s not a God of our own understanding, it is as he has revealed himself , all holy and perfect , we are creatures, created and have done wrong rebelled and children of wrath of the devil BUT GOD, rich in mercy regenerates his own and grants them faith and belief and repentance

That’s true, but we are ALL WICKED, we have to realize that

@@jeremynethercutt206 Ezekiel 33:11 is talking about those who die in their wickedness and unbelief. God justly sends them to hell but he is not pleased with their eternal perishing.

@thebugman8696 your theology is based on human philosophy as nowhere is double-predestination found taught in the bible. By the way it's your false doctrine that makes the gospel falls apart. Please provide some biblical evidence to support your docrine of double-predestian Thank you.

Steer away from this guy. He does not understand Scripture and is in the dangerous, Hyper Calvinist camp. That is dangerous.

All men.. What about women?.. Thats gender discrimination..Hebrews 12:2 says Jesus creates faith. I just don't understand how we choose to believe before we recieve faith?.

So also at present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace.... I have no idea why.. But its election of grace.. But not elected now, but before foundation of the world.. Before.. Did we exist before?.. Were we Gods before He made world.. I mean were we conscious?. Beings.. Will find out soon...

@@johnman8554i would answer what you said by this brother It is all.of grace, ALL of Gods goodness Faith is a gift, to believe is a gift. God has given this, he has opened these eyes and changed this heart The first act of obedience as a christan is to believe in the person and work , the life death and reserrection and reign of the Lord Jesus Christ, Important-To believe in him isn't what makes you a christan, this is your first fruit This is the fruit, this is a gift to you To believe in Jesus isn’t the same as believing Jesus Regeneration must precede true saving faith Regeneration is being born from above By GOD of the spirit Just stay in Gods word and pray it is all revealed to you ! Love you

@@alihoussney7870absolutely not, this is not hyper Calvinism at all This is expounding and exposition the revelation that God has given and reading it through the authors true meaning

How do you know? How does one know they are ''elected'' and why would God overlook another? John 3:16 completely destroys the relic of John Calvin.

@@michaelreyes8182 Faith is a gift from God !