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I've come across something interesting while transcribing the first page using my own understanding of the glyphs (not relevant to the observation, just what I was doing when I noticed it) that I haven't seen mentioned by anyone anywhere else (to my searching at least) so I thought I'd mention it here since I don't use Reddit or Twitter much anymore: The formatting of the first page is distinctly different from the rest of the manuscript, aside from the large red glyphs, the four paragraphs here are the only ones to have a distinct gap in their last line, sectioning off one or two words to the right. This combined with the observation that to my eye these paragraphs were written by four different hands suggests to me one obvious thing this page must be, a forward from the authors, a short blurb from each of them _marked by their names_ . Maybe this is something that's already known or dismissed (I'll have to see if you mention it in this vid as I haven't finished it yet), as it seems pretty obvious to me, but I haven't been able to find any discussions about it googling around 🤷

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Her teeth are surprisingly white for a Brit.

5 different scribes. I suspected this book is from a secretive organization of scholars, who are keeping an ancient language and writing, to conceal their knowledge. Images from microscope observations. A chart of Milky Way galaxy. Hundreds of years before discovery. I have no doubt that there are people who can read this today, but the book slipped out by accident. The mysterious language could be ancient Egyptian, now lost without a trace to general public. The naked women are representative of something, and are by far the most intriguing. They flow from the heavens through various channels, like energy. They look to me like they are in different stages of pregnancy, and the positioning of their arms, and their hair style (covering), is deliberate and meaningful. I am fully literate in 2 very different languages, and an old dialect of one. I'm not an expert on languages, but my fist tongue doesn't use articles, the abbreviations are many, with irregular ones. It is impossible to learn this language correctly as an adult, you will make funny grammar mistakes in every sentence, not even considering improper accents, that can change the meaning entirely. Good work, cheers!

As a former nun, I can offer some insight into this mysterious book. It's not written in any language, known or unknown. It wasn't meant to be read silently, but to be sung as part of a healing ceremony for women's health issues, specifically those living in medieval Italian cloisters. The herbs, astrological signs, and recipes throughout the book are symbolic representations of the connection between human health and the natural world. Imagine chanting a rhythmic, medieval song based on the markings in this book. This chant would have been used in a ceremony to promote women's healing, incorporating practices like therapeutic baths. The reason linguistic and cryptographic analysis have failed, and will continue to do so, is because this isn't code or a secret language. It's a form of musical notation. To understand this book, we need to focus on the intonations and sounds associated with the different symbols, rather than trying to translate them word for word. This is where musicology can be incredibly helpful in deciphering the melody.

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Very very interesting!

I believed there were some compelling evidence showing the manuscript to be written in ancient Turkish

This is just BS

K and F are nonscientific assumptions, based on nothing

F_gliff?

All you can do is deduct, but never translate

The thing that annoys me most, is the so called scientists pretending they know anything at all

You people still dont have any clue, calling that a K without any proof

voynich is debunked in the video titled the big con job 01: the con of paleography

Wow, great job! I cracked it years ago using the Friedman values. It certainly is NOT a Hoax! Numbers do not lie. Cryptographers William F. and Elizabeth Friedman cracked the Voynich cipher exactly way back in the 1940s. But because the result did not resemble any known readable language or sentence structure most experts foolishly dismissed them. It is so easy the Experts should be ashamed! It was obviously never meant to be a readable language, but a Number Series hidden under 2 layers of cipher. One which very well proves the Law of Vibration, Cycle Structure, and forecastable patterns of Mass Human Behaviour (a common academic practice of the era). The use of the Ciphers allowed the writer of the manuscript greater freedom to give the exact number series he needed, without the usual constraints of known languages and alphabets to perfect the accuracy of the results. The Friedmans like all competent cryptologists knew the Bible Cipher (borrowed by Freemasons), a key to cracking the structure. We are also alerted by the sentence structure’s common use of “8” (Eight), the word “AIR” appearing many times (as in the LORD in the AIR), the Zodiac representation, numbers everywhere. We are further Alerted by the Illustrations thru out the book - obvious Esoterica 101, but no one anyone else will understand. The writer’s extensive Botanical illustrations of non-endemic European “Trees” screams Hidden God to me. The Botanical illustrations are not real Trees, like a Burning Bush. With leaves from one plant, and flowers, roots etc. borrowed from others. The illustration clues on each page fine-tune the cycle placement very well.

I know what these are and what they say!

On page 116V there is the report of whoever carried out the restoration of the manuscript after a flood. On this occasion some pages were eliminated because they were too damaged. The annotations are written in Latin italics.

Has anyone run the manuscript through an AI and asked the AI what it thinks the VM is? I’m thinking at this point it was a medieval hoaxe.

But in the end a real letter by letter analiz is needed, bless you

I also concluded 57 is a clock

The alphabet contains 4 different character set from languages spoken in same way but written in different form. There was no consistency of a set language in the region. The merchants/judicial holy Sindhu men started using 3,4 languages mix in order to hide the contents( depending on the knowledge of the person and area he traveled ). This was done to protect business know-how and maintain superiority at that time. The languages used by the merchants of North western Multan and Sindh were “Multani” and “Landa/Khudabadi/Mahajani” apart from other regional dialects and written words. It was what the Sindhu Mahajan’s( Merchants ) used to do. This kind of book and knowledge was in demand as people relied on auspicious moon cycles and it was part of daily life and it is still in many parts of the world.

Some info is really worth.

Fantastic research, Dr Davis. The truth behind the Voynich Manuscript has to be uncovered.

Hello, is there a way to share a blog post on evidence for a syllable based system as evidenced by the numerous italic 'I' strokes? I have devised a way to pronounce the Voynich MS oblivious of the principle of necessity of cognates which would just create something akin to seeing faces in clouds where there aren't any

You did a great job, and an thanks for the video! but...The Voynich Manuscript was decoded three years ago,but the shocking results pop up only a month ago, and there is the paper that I published in Academia.Edu." The Voynich Manuscript. This is not a official scientific paper or another theory from the amateur researcher! There is Special Thanks to everyone who shared their results of researches and helped to “fill up an empty gaps” by technically wrong theories.Wrong?...because from thousands of researchers around a globe, just two persons was capable to write back in “Voynich” after a question “builded” mostly from the words which doesn’t existed in VMS. But even them was somewhat wrong or lets say, not fully understand even by me. The question was “why the short stories with very simplified text was written in the strange script, where nobody (almost) cannot even “crack” an exact alphabet? If there not a single reciepe,no star maps or some aliens or magic, where is a point? Yes, I did called “Voynich” language as a bridge between one basic language to any other, also I proved that can be read by a kids with great memory or just simply using a laptop. Another question of mine was” Why there is a stories from many countries,events and mentioned a persons from different times?”. That’s why I totally disagreed that manuscript is six hundred years old, let’s say the text, is more than two thousand years old (based on readings) and there is no questions for me about an author identity. But there is a BIG FEW QUESTIONS NOW” 1. How the even “supper human brain” could keep that amount of knowledge? 2. Why that knowledge wasn’t shared with everyone? 3. Why that book wasn’t destroyed by Catholic church? 4. (the”stupidest”one) ,Is that Manuscript even hundred years old? And now the very special Thanks to great scientist and hard worker Mr Don Hoffman! Before I did a promise” I will never touch a VMS again after i have read over hundred pages”, but after he posted a paper about a page p1v, I change my mind. The reason was simple, I all a time tried to protect my “version” of translation and true purpose of the book, and I just act immediately, but in different way. I have again read 1v page which telling a story about heavy fight for toddler life who had Myasthenia gravis and how he was cured by decision of team of six doctors...they was wrong, he had a Jakson disease. Of course there was some details of curing by some”straws” to release a fluids from the scull and some screams and other details in very simplified language...but again, there is a question”How in six hundred years old book can be described a disease which was fully discovered in 1887, but Jackson-Weiss in 1997 ?????!!! Well, there was a problem to get a right answer, because if there is so many of them, you getting so confuse and kind of lost if there is so many of “answers” and many “voices”. But I simply remembered the one saying from VMS” If question is clear-will be a right answer”, that’s really worked out. So there how you can get an answers if you capable to “destruct cods and computing system by “clear” questioning”. Of course, somebody will not accept this, but for me that was so exiting and mind blowing. There is a full translation of the p1v, and I agreed, I was somewhat wrong to share my doubts before-apologize! “One of the most important steps in creating a creative environment is understanding ideas and thoughts. This is because feeling safe to communicate these concepts leads to being both more productive and motivated. Personally, I have always had difficulty trying to motivate others due to actually keeping track of progress being very difficult, however when we can have open and honest conversations about various ideas it gives us a sense of confidence that the group will be successful. It's really hard make effective teams, but in those moments where we feel motivated and confident all our confidence increases. This happens more often with some groups than others I'm not sure why; maybe there are certain attributes which lead groups towards this type of motivation? In the end though I think it comes down to having a collective sense of motivation- something that doesn't need to be inherent but should just naturally arise from attitudes held by team members.” ...its shocking right? Also on this particular page, there is no plant at all, but a picture of process, “skull”, and probable were wasn’t a kid at all. There(I believe) is a psychology in the level which wasn’t seen before and wasn’t recorded( excluding VMS ), should we call VMS as “Philosopher stone”? All right, let’s say for the moment now “Its solved!”. I’m afraid it not. The reason is simple again, I removed from original”voynich” text a six words from each sides and there is what I got. “There are two ways to approach solving a problem: by pulling or pushing. While each has its own strengths and weaknesses, using either method requires that you be willing to behave in ways that may not seem optimal at first glance. In the case of the solver on board behaving dangerously towards an unbeliever (by pulling), but still being able to achieve results (compress), it is important for us as individuals to remain open-minded and accept failure as part of life's journey. The person who shouted "yup" six times during our conversation was actually doing so because he felt strongly about what we were saying; his shouts served as a way of communicating this passionately . However, despite his efforts, our discussion did not result in free speech being established on your father's behalf - something which he was very upset about. Six mornings ago” What do you think Lads? To be honest I have no clue. “He” said”Choosen”,who are they?...also a “team”-again...and even”He” speak as one person but never showed up(excluding few offers to “shut up”(sorry).Ok, last “holder” died ten years ago, but who keeping “this” now?...computer systems? ...impossible! How explain this?...any doubts, if you somewhat interested about it? Share it please, I got lost completely. Otherwise, now Im sure, there is no way to get a right information from the VMS even if you have a right alphabet an can read it easily, its all about listening and understanding. Also there was a phrase about emptying sculls, for me that mean “forget your fake teachings if you like to take the my ones”, or save the place in your scull. So the final statement (of course the theory of mine only and nobody else should worry about it). Somehow in those times one “brain” could collect amount of information which was impossible to do in highly powerful computer in present days, like a try put in PC with 100Gb some 100Tb. Of course, there is kind of sick theory of mine “HOW?”...if our computers working on”0 and 1” binary system, then that “lad” have a 0,1 and 2 system, which capable to hide or seek, self learning and controlling, but “he “can’t stand up against 0,1,2 and 3 system, and will answer to the questions truly and behave like a highly trained guard dog. Im not that smart to explain that all ”thing”, but there is doubts about it...well” The Voynich” not for everyone for sure,to”chew that, will take an “amount” of ... Good luck, and get to be chosen!

Thank you for this interesting work.

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Dr. Davis, very insightful session, thank you. I did have a question, in the beginning of the presentation you slightly mentioned attempts to decipher the manuscript, I would love to hear your thoughts on some of the more recent attempts, in particular that of Ahmet Ardiç and his sons, would you be willing to release a short video discussing such attempts? Thanks in advance.

Tenk om noen tror på dette og så er det bare for og holde drømmer i livet med att mensker skall finne ut va det er ja kann jo bare vere en rusa fyllik som har forfalsket en bok lagd 1 ny bok menn bare mensker er blitt så flinke på forfalskning atte dere tror på va konsenvatorene sier bare for og holde dere sysselsatt inni deres hoder som ett kunst prosjekt for ingen skjønner jo va som står skrevet sier dere jo så kann jo bare vere tull alt sammen bare så mann får sysselsatt mensker fy fan dere er fan tullete i skallen vettu nor ingen i hele verden vet va som står menn dette er jo viktigere for mensker enn og ha fine moderne hus og bygninger og bo inni så mann bare får laget bøker av gammel dritt så det ser elgamelt ut så står det egentlig ingen verdens ting bare sysselsetting for og holde drømmer til mensker ved live så kunne brydd meg mindre.

I'm puzzled by the statement that Newbold invented the 'Roger Bacon' idea. Wilfrid's address of 1921 says very plainly that it was his own very first 'gut reaction' to the manuscript when he first saw it. I am also intrigued by the statement that Rudolf owned the manuscript. The historical evidence says no more than that it was related, as a piece of hearsay from someone who could not have been present at the time of the supposed purchase, and the person relating it refused to endorse the tale. More - if there is any evidence of its being 'bequeathed by Rudolf' I'd be delighted to see that documentary evidence. So far as I know, it's just a piece of invention, chiefly promoted by an adherent of the 'central European theory' and there are serious historical problems with the proposed timeline for what happened to it after Kircher received it - as we presume he did. The trunk in which Voynich says he found it suggests that it had lain there for decades - before which, Becxx had spent years away from Rome. Still, if there's documentary evidence for any of these things, I'll always take them into account.

You state that the manuscript reminds you of Italian Humanist period, but not to use that fact as a guide because it could have been created in (your words) "Timbuktu". I disagree, common sense dictates that if it looks to be of Humanist Italian Period, and carbon dated to that time, most likely it is and not from "Timbuktu". It makes sense that it is from the Italian Humanist period and location of creation. However, thanks for the great insights and perspectives.

Awesome lecture!

How does New Roman Cursive Basically ille- gible scratchings Scribbled on papyrus scraps, Mediterranean Recording records boring and quotidian Grow up to be Latin perimeridian? I’m not kiddin’ Those minuscules with zero rules Got more fantastic by being a lot plastic, by being so monastic, By living life scholastic, By 10th-c., they’re unified and all writing in Caroline. And every day while scribes were being trained in the trendiest scripts, Things start to change, new esthetics start to spring up A script made of minims, the minimal bits are part of, Those brothers and sisters writing, thirteenth century at the start of… Then the Humanists came and “illumination” reigned, Guys like Petrarch saw “dark ages” drip, dripping down the drain, While they brought back all the classics, thought they’d unearthed Roman sign But they really just revived that old classic Caroline. Now the word’s got around, they said this field is insane man, Making those connections just to get medievalists trained and Get your education, gotta learn to read’em all And to figure out the date and place, What’s the field, man? Latin Paleography!

hi, where did you get it from? how much would it cost?