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The Rocky Mountain Division of the Train Collector's Association. RMDTCA members collect, run, buy, and sell classic and modern toy trains (rmdtoytrains.org). RMD also hosts the annual Rocky Mountain Train Shows (rmtts.com).
Union Pacific Steam Shop Update 2024
In this update recorded at the 2024 Spring Rocky Mountain Train Show, Ed focuses on the locomotive boiler system construction, parameters and requirements. In the last 45 minutes of the presentation, Ed fields questions from the audience.
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UP 4014 Update 2022
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Ed Dickens, Union Pacific's Heritage Operations Manager provides an update on the UP 4014 Big Boy and steam shop maintenance activities. Recorded at the April, 2022 Rocky Mountain Train Show, National Western Complex, Denver, Colorado. (Editor's note: Video is a bit grainy in some scenes due to the dim lighting in the room.) Please subscribe and visit: rockymountaintrainshow.com/Default.aspx ww...
Rebuilding the UP 4014 Big Boy 2020 HD
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Ed Dickens, Union Pacific's Senior Manager of Heritage Operations returns to the Rocky Mountain Train Show on March 7, 2020 to tell us about rebuilding the 4014 Big Boy and getting it ready for its inaugural trip to the Golden Spike150th anniversary celebration in Ogden, Utah. Room lighting was turned down for PC projection purposes. To compensate, the video has been brightened digitally. This ...
UP Steam Update 2018
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Ed Dickens, UP Senior Manager - Heritage Operations, returns to the Rocky Mountain Train Show to provides us with the very first update in 2018 of the progress UP is making on their steam projects, especially the UP 4014 Big Boy.
CBS Ad for Rocky Mountain Train Show - March 2018
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CBS Ad for Rocky Mountain Train Show - March 2018
UP Steam Update 2017
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The latest update on the UP steam program as presented by Ed Dickens, UP's Senior Manger of Heritage Operations. The presentation was recorded at the March, 2017 Rocky Mountain Train Show at the Denver Mart.
RMD-TCA - 2016 Revue
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A brief look at how members of the Rocky Mountain Division of the Train Collectors Association "played trains" in 2016.
UP FEF 844 Returns to Cheyenne - July 24, 2016
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The newly restored Union Pacific FEF 844 breezes through Brighton, Colorado on its way back home to Chyenne, Wyoming. This was the final leg of its July, 2016 Cheyenne Frontier Days excursion between Denver and Chyenne.
UP Steam 2016 Update - 844 FEF3 Restoration
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Recorded at the Rocky Mountain Train Show on March 5, 2016, Ed Dickens, UP Steam Program Manager, discusses the team's findings and progress on the 844 FEF steam locomotive restoration. Ed also reveals UP's anticipated target dates for completion of the 844 and 4014 restoration projects. Our apologies for the low brightness of the scenes where Ed is on camera. The room lights were turned off so...
2015 Rocky Mountain Train Show Sights and Sounds
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A 2 minute view of some of the sights and sounds of the Rocky Mountain Trains show hosted semi-annually by the Rocky Mountain Division - Train Collectors Association at the Denver Mart(RockyMountainTrainShow.com).
UP Steam Shop Evolution and Update at 2015 Rocky Mountain Train Show
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UP Steam Shop update presented by UP's Ed Dickens, Senior Manager - Heritage Operations, at the March 7, 2015 Rocky Mountain Train Show - Denver Mart (rockymountaintrainshow.com)
UP 4014 Project Update at 2015 Rocky Mountain Train Show
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Union Pacifc 4014 project update presentation by Ed Dickens, Senior Manager - Heritage Operations. Presented at the Rocky Mountain Train Show on March 7, 2015 - Denver Mart (rmtts.com).
I just wanna know if big boy is going to be coming through Austin Texas.
No
@@mikehawk2003 you DO NOT know that whatsoever. Never doubt ANYTHING especially in this day and age.
It’s not
@@mratsfrailfan1894 watch it come through
When 844 going back on the rails again
The town I grew up in was St. Albans Wv . We had a big boy locomotive 2700 that sat there for years then was moved . I always wondered what happened with it.
Time Stamp 8:22 Exhibit A this is why #3985 is in the shop and #844 was in the shop see those caps? they are style KH which means they are the wrong type of bolts for this engine and Steve replaced that firebox 10 years ago only to have it rust because he made the same mistake he made in 1999. Also look at Exhibit B on the next slide see those bolts? that is illegal they were tack welded onto a cap the correct thing to do is run the bolt all the way though with a full penetration weld and seal the ends with grout. Steve did not do that and I believe the guy who did this weld was Scott Nixon this is part of the reason why he is not with UP or Wasatch anymore this weld made the locomotive unsafe to operate.
9:58 Exhibit B and I'm sure you saw the stacked bolts thats a no no you place a ridged staybolt here and run it all the way though and cap it with a stud you do not weld near caps.
Looks like an amazing crew. UP. Like no other.
Congratulations Ed Dickens I am praying for you and your family this is Gary Andrews for Mansfield Ohio your brother in Christ Jesus God bless you at Dickens on 844 and 4014 beautiful locomotives you got a great gift at Dickens God bless you please text me back thank you brother God bless you and those that don't 844 and 4014 and I tell you that you're a blessing I wish you would come to Mansfield
Wonderful to see alI these Engineering projects come to life. But expensive, time consuming. Many more to be done yet. SS United States, Lockheed Connie's. Many. And talk is cheap.
If a book that chronicled the process of getting the Big Boy back on the rails were published, I would be standing in line with my wallet opened up to buy a copy!
I’m, 25, I’ve lived in Michigan all my life, been a fan of steam since childhood and never took a trip to Cheyenne and it’s one of my biggest regrets. Ed Dickens and his team are the best out there for steam heritage. 844 and 3985 were the best of the preserved steamers and now big boy 4014 has taken that place with 844 and the challenger and 5000 class are part of RRHMA. Having locomotives like these around and those from the past or what show the survival and early generation of railroads built them to the fullest and help to maintain and run them well
12:05 abatement crew is going in originally Wasatch was suppose to do it but they botched the job, Ed terminated them, and he had to bring in this abatement crew. Everything on #844 that was covered in asbestos went in the bags even the ceiling had to go in the bags thats why #3985 is in the shape it is no one removed the asbestos.
So 10 minutes in, we've seen the same crew picture HOW many times now?
Diesel electric locomotives are so much simpler. It's mind boggling how they kept a fleet of steam locomotives running.
Hello Ed Dickens. I'm a few months north of 70 years and raised for the major part of my life in Ohio. A few years of that time was spent very near a two track Baltimore and Ohio right of way and very young when there were a couple steam locomotives around as well as propellor and reciprocal engine powered aircraft at the USAF base nearby. Most of my early memories however are of the F and G series diesel electric locomotives and the later and not as asthetically pleasing rectangular or better put boxy looking EMD diesel electrics. There was a lot to be said for the rounded, streamlined appearance of the nose of those F series engines. I retired in 2019 from a 35 year long career as a long haul trucker. Many was the time that I passed by or through Cheyenne WY going East or West. I regret never having the the time to stop and have a look/see at the U & P Cheyenne Yard. A tour of that steam shop would have been an absolute delight and fascination for this old guy. Millions of wide eyed questions would have come to mind. Now as I get nearer the end of the road of my life's journey I find myself looking back and thinking if only. Well that is the way of things sometimes and hindsight is as it has been said 20/20. Thank you very much sir for posting this video. It salves the unrequited itch of that mechanical engineer that my maternal grandfather saw in me and hmm, the fascination with mechanical objects that I've never outgrown. All the best to you the the U & P folks. Especially those at the "Steam Shop" 4014, 844, truly marvels of mechanical engineering. PS. I cannot begin to imagine the engineering and machining that went into this rebuild/overhaul. Well done gentlemen. Well done indeed.
Fantastic!
Oklahoma august 2021 100 degrees yep But still love to see the big boy
UP 844 2022
I wonder if there is a chance of restoring another Big Boy down the line.
There are no plans to and it wouldn't even make any sense. No need to have two operational. Costly enough maintaining one of them.
@@FFred-us9tw erm, did you do any research because there's a slight chance that 4017 will be running
@@infaredxkingz8786 you’re responding to a comment from 2 years ago, but yes, I have. And nothing has changed. There are no plans of any kind to bring any other Big Boy back to life. None. Not even the 4017.
The tour might be canceled as of right now
Steam locomotives ran for over 100 years pulling a lot heavier trains than they pull today without any help from a diesel to stop. Show a little faith in your equipment and loose that diesel. It ruins the nostalgic atmosphere created by the steam locomotives.
Big Boy brake shoes cost a lot of money. By minimizing wear on the brake shoes that saves money for UP when they sent 4014 out on a tour. Is that a bad thing?
Yes, it does, but I read that dynamic braking is needed to run on the main line now and the diesel supplies that along with wifi and heat to the passenger cars. Big Boy was not engineered to do those things. Plus, on an excursion, I believe it was in the south, one of the cities didn't want to refill the water tank for a second time... So the Diesel helped get Big Boy to the next stop with available water. I guess we have to be practical.
@@darlenemassey6161 the diesel is there for Dynamic braking to cut down on brake shoe wear. It’s not a requirement, it’s something they choose to do. The diesel also provides PTC (positive train control) data to the in-cab displays on the 4014. And lastly it can keep the 4014 moving should the need arise. The diesel does NOT provide power or WiFi to the coaches. It doesn’t have the ability to do so. That power is provided by a dedicated “power car” you can see in the consist.
foamer
Steam locomotives are and feel alive.
The trips has been postponed. No new date has been set yet. Trains magazine has announced this. I guess UP is in some trouble with traffic and other trouble going on So they are gonna wait till traffic gets better and other things get better and then announce new dates
That was very interesting on boiler feed water ..It be interesting with today
Technology it be neat to pretreatment the water in the two tenders for 4014 before going into the Boiler
Thank you Union Pacific for restoring Númber4014 back to service.
While i love 4014, i realy realy REALY wish to i got to see 844, i only ever got to see 4014 and, while that was by far the best time of my life, here in southern cali, comdined with the fact that im not even 13 yet, i never actulay got to see 844, still excited though
Thank you Ed.
I get a kick out of Ed having working PTC interface on a steam locomotive without a hitch when NS can't even work theirs on the diesels without constant issues. Ha!
Now I understand WHY the UP sub-contracted a second party to store and, (perhaps), restore 3985. Man! That's serious marketing money my friend and to get her off the balance books in Corporate had to be a large sigh of relief. Let's just hope and pray that the new owners can take care of her the way Ed Dickens, and the UP did...Time will tell, right?!?
That second party has confirmed the 3985 will be restored and run again 😀
@@derrickconnor1303 They sure have their work cut out for them.
@@PowerTrain611 really i know the 3985 had been in the UP steam shops storage and was in decent shape, i assumed the reason UP stored it was they were to cheap to keep 3985, 4014, and 844 going
@@derrickconnor1303 3985 is not in good shape. She needs a lot of major repair work, and if you need proof, look up some videos of her from 2009-2010. In some scenes, you will notice plenty of steam leaks. Leaks to some extent re perfectly normal and understandable, but to have as many as she did... the challenger put in a lot of miles. It only makes sense that she'll need a decent amount of TLC to be good as new again.
@@PowerTrain611 oh ok damn thats sad well i hope they get her fixed up right. I know bigboy 4014 had a ton of issues but they restored him well. Just wish they woud restore the remaining big boys and have a fleet or a big boy day with all of them running together, pipe dream i know but one can hope
An age old question Ed, would it be better to "re-fabricate" the locomotive, or would it cost less to build a brand new one with our technology???
It sure would be a awesome sight for the big boy to pull a nice fall grain train Abt 50 loaded cars I think Ed would be loving I to
The video was very interesting.
45:11 Exhibit C this is why #3985 needs a rebuild see that bolt it is Style KH that is the wrong type of bolt for that locomotive. KH is used on coal burners that burn anthracite coal and those are replaced daily. UP locomotives and all ALCOs use Style KJ or Style KW which is threaded on one end has holes in both ends and is secured with a sleeve and a cap. Style KH is welded to the frame and it can become defective after years of use. That's why the industry does not use this style.
2:54 Exibit A and this is the same problem #3985 has see those jackets? solid asbestos thats why Turner, Cross, and Kranning are not with them they were exposed to that stuff. Wasatch was brought in to do the abatement they did not have a permit and when Ed saw it he said Stop Everything and he reported to UP management. Kranning, Cross, and Turner got terminated and Ed had to bring in new guys and had to hire an asbestos removal firm and everything had to go into the bags because it was contaminated.
I would love to see those same pictures of scale compared to when they tear down the 844 in the future. Would be interesting to see how the water treatment has worked.
Update 4/22/22, BigBoy excursion postponed due to "Supply Chain Congestion". You'd think fertilizer from Donaldsonville would be TOP PRIORITY! Who told UP to limit fertilizer shipments? I smell unAmerican malfeasance.
Welp, time for me to reschedule. And I don’t see what’s wrong with limiting fertilizer either.
Would 844 have a new mars light?
I would like to think so, but who knows. Mars Lights are rare nowadays.
I came to see Union Pacific Big Boy 4014 with my mom last August that came to Lake Charles LA
Union Pacific never completely retired steam. FEF3 #844 still in service never retired. Accepted December,1944.
Great presentation and excellent Q&A
I am proud to say me and my entire famley have seen two steam locos 844 and 4014 thank you all for your hard work keep it up
I’m going to be there for the Roseville departure
I'm going for Portland
Im going to be thier wherever
Loved this! Thanks for sharing!
Ed Dickens is GREAT as usual. Excellent video.
Great presentation. Thanks to all involved
Great job Ed and 4014 Crew!
Why am listening to two ppl talk very distracted
Thank you for doing this for everyone out here.
Thanks for posting this as always. Sounds like they're gearing up for a great Pacific Northwest tour this July.
Sounds like they’re also going to be doing something with SP 4449, so look out for that too
@@pnwrailproductions6430 source?
@@brendangranger3684 Sounds like an assumption
My dream: 4449, 844, and 4014 triple header What will probably happen: 4449 and 4014 double header
The TRIP is currently postponed. UP is experiencing problems on thier system and will announce the new date when things get better
I cant wait to see 4014 big boy this years in it come on tour. When I saw 4014 last years I was not to have full tour but it was still very very cool.
I came to see the 4014 last August when you stopped in Denton, Texas..it was very hot. I waited in that sun for over 3 hours. I recall y'all had a problem that made you late. It was well worth the wait. Thank you for your dedication to these beautiful trains!! I grew up in Ohio, a village the train came thru. I'm not far from where the train runs here. My mind is on its schedule. I can hear the whistle even in winter when doors are closed. I love to hear that beautiful sound!! Thank you for your hard work. Bless your efforts!!
I saw it when it passed through Kansas the second time, it got to the crossing 2 hours behind schedule