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99,99% of the dota players are not top 100 and they don't have teammates that are top 100💀 I started from 1k MMR back in the day and I'm just talking about my experience that it's much easier as a range hero ^^

@@5updota this is true in across all tiers. on dotabuff/stratz, the top 10 winrate heroes this patch is still about half melee

U mean 2k MMR right?

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I like both facets so it's up to your own feeling what U wanna pick ^^ And the boots part is just experience and personal preference running around faster

@@5updota I see, and why no quelling? Should help with the first waves tremendously. I also tried him without bottle, I think bottle is a bit overrated.

The video is an example of what can happen as a Mele hero and as a range hero. I'm not comparing anyone with tier 1 Dota. These tips are just for the random pubs that everyone plays plus I got the experience grinding from 1k MMR to 10k so I know what is going on there💀 Not sure why some people think that I'm saying Mele heroes are not playable, they are but if you wanna have a much easier time in your MMR grind and pubs then just pick range POS 4 heroes and enjoy winning lanes 🤝

But we are not tier 1 Dota 👀 We are random pubs with random people you've never seen probably and they just pick their favourite heroes and offlaners are more of the beef hero enjoyers :D

@@5updotawe are not tier 1 Dota... yet

Trueee

It's not like a super grief but it just makes the game harder for your lane that's the thing besides the lane it is totally fine :D

I'd say Tusk, Marci and Clock are the only melee 4 heroes that can have positive impact in lane, if the players knows how to play them

I was also 1k MMR at some point and I have 6 Mele POS 4 heroes with 500-1000 games on each of the hero. Trust me it's just easier to play range heroes in pubs and to grind mmr^^ if you wanna pick meles go for it and enjoy it's just a tip that's it :D

The problem is that 99% of the offlaners are not picking Visage 3 or other range heroes :D So I just want people to either pre pick a range or ask their lane partner what they pick otherwise you will always have some random Mars with clock or some other 2 meles that make 0 sense

I've been in 1k MMR back in the day and I can say, yes it doesn't really matter in lower MMR but why would you give your enemy's an advantage for free on the lane?

@@5updota I agree, my whole thing is people in lower mmrs are not limited by the hero they pick. In lower mmr if you use proper spells and take proper trades and get the regen you need to sustain lane, they’ll win 9/10 times.

They are only the best players in the game, good thing you got it figured out though.

​​@@Shoutenkou its exactly because of that, they are better players to they punish each other in draft and pick hard counters; they picked bara because of his innate and global presence not because of his laning; but instead of thinking about it and figuring it out on your own you spout out your your 2k takes.

@@dave.kh7926 You seem triggered. Regardless, I'm probably triple your MMR, I'm nearing 8k, meanwhile you're on RUclips feeding your own delusions, do you honestly believe that you understand drafts, let alone ANYTHING else about the game better than the 0.01% players? Buddy, keep yourslef in check.

@@dave.kh7926 You seem triggered. Regardless, if you wanted to insult me, you shouldn't have uploaded 20FPS videos of you struggling to lasthit a ranged creep - "2k" is obviously a projection on your part. Furthermore, I'm nearing 8k so it's a safe bet that I'm at the very least three times your MMR. You're here spewing nonsense and feeding your silly delusions, do you really think that you understand anything about the game like the 0.01% players? Keep yourself in check buddy.

Good luck then on your grind^^

5d chess is when ranged hero.

Explain

Correct

The duality of man

Gotta challenge yourself with a disadvantage. 😅

Link of his video this?, sounds fun.

ROOOFL don't tell them ????

@@balab1622 It was his last live stream, the penultimate match of that stream. I think he was trying the facet with Fire Remnant casting Searing Chains around them, which to be fair is a cool idea. Eventually could transition into Gleipnir or something and be somewhat annoying.

I always pick WindR if my 4 is a melee, Idgaf, I will not struggle because of my 4 pick

if your offlaner is a range hero u can ofc go for a mele but overall its still easier as a range but it is ur desicion ^^

What are you waffling about, darkseer + melee 4 is literally one of the best possible lane matchups for a melee 4. And it still went badly.

No it's really really not. We're talking about lanin stage SMH.

The video is about position 4 not 5 ^^ Position 5 heroes that are Mele are usually not bad but that's because U can run enemy's down way easier compared to offlane and U can just sit behind ur carry. But in offlane it's different most of the offlaners in pubs see a clock on their land and just pick a mars or some random second mele hero💀

@@5updota That is a really true point. One of the worst things too is people don't say who they might even pick. Makes it hard to choose a good support.

That's why just a classic range support that fits any other lane partner :D and if the pick they worst hero at least you can make a playable lane out of it 🤝

@@5updota There always have to be a range in lane not dual melee unless its both aggressive melee which can jump on you with slows and stun. If what you said were true, why are there still MVP support melee in TI then? The iconic Jerax tiny airline

@@youtest3224 because by his logic you should not play aba 4, which is a top 3 winrate pos 4 in all ranks from crusader and up.

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Useless to say the least

Not sure what's Ur experience with position 4 meles but most of my experience is like "I pick clock" and my teammate picks like axe lmao

​@5updota that is the selling point of melee heros right? I can always initiate fights ... die and buyback with low gold... when and how to start fights are hardest question in dota so...

@@5updota I am a Magnus 4 main. So mostly I setup for db mars razor etc. offlanes.

I mean maybe I didn't clearly said it in the video but I'm not saying Mele 4 heroes are super super grief or bad but your just giving your enemy are advantage for free. I also have an earth shaker, earth spirit and other Mele heroes with 500-1000 games but I know that if I just play range heroes only like for example the player "save" I could have a much easier time on lanes :D

@@5updota yeah it is just easier thanks for the tips. Spamming Techies now lol.

The video is about position 4 if your talking about abba 4 I'm confused but on position 5 abba is a fine hero for sure :D

ahh so you're the useless tree sitting, xp sapping abba pos 4 I always get when i play offlane

fr fr. I play Abaddon both as 4 and 5, but my last game as pos 4 Abaddon, it went so fucking bad, maybe I'll follow 5up's advice now.

I've been spamming 4/5 abaddon. My shield helps me trade in either position unless they have a support with lots of disables. Then I save it for my offlane