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Methodist is not off God is of the world. I used to be there and God took me and my family out of there, and we found God when we got out of there, and we have a personal relationship with Christ praise his holy Name Jesus forever. I pray everyone that’s in there get out asap and seek Jesus. 🙌🏽🙏✝️

"False teachers who craftily and industriously hunt for precious life, devouring men by their falsehoods, are as dangerous and detestable as evening wolves. Darkness is their element; deceit is their character; destruction is their end. They pose the greatest threat to our safety when they wear the sheep's skin. Blessed is he who is kept from them, for thousands become the prey of grievous wolves that enter within the fold of the church." - Charles Spurgeon

The Wesley's would weep. This is what happens when a religious denomination becomes a worldly, woke business run by a rapacious Board of Directors. Any other so-called 'Christian' denominations come to mind?

The leaders of the conference are there because they didn't follow the Book of Disipline!

We are a Methodist church in The "Forest" of Mississippi! The United Methodist Church is lead by people who didn't follow the Book of Discipline!

Those churches are not dying in the UMC and Episcopal Churches. They are being killed

God Bless you, brother, Apostle Paul warned churches against going to court to settle this as did Jesus (indirectly) so letting go and letting God is the way to go! It only makes UMC looks bad and the world is watching!

Love your heart Brother, I left denom. churchianity and did house/small/organic church for 14 years after pastoring for the C&MA for 20 out of seminary. Now retired but not really and working with a congregation in urban Florida who are walking away from the RCA. They will still be independent and have 2 tent making shepherds. I spent 17 years as a counselor for Goodwill stores in my area as well. God bless your role in the Kingdom!

What light does Paul's words about "disputable matters" not dividing fellowship cast on this stuff or has that ship sailed back in 150AD when Bishops stole power during the formational years around the RCC starting?

Why are you going bald? The reason I ask is you are teaching about the history of your denomination and your association with it; and the hopes of true Godly spirituality!!! But you are indoors, and for some inexplicable reason you are wearing a hat!!! Why??? Is the divine light of your new preaching so brightened by divine light that you must shelter your head from the light and the heat!!! This new custom of wearing hats indoors I find curious. Part of the good culture we have in America is the idea of good manners. But bad parts of the culture we as Christians have inhereted is the idea of worldly culture telling the church-or more appropriately the Body Of Christ- telling the church how to 'govern' itself. In my observation the modern or contemporary church is plagued by the disease of 'perpetual babyhood'.!!! Many pastors I don't believe have a calling from God, but are rather hired by a group. Wether or not these leaders develop into the biblical 'hireling' depends on the attitude of the individual. If God can succeed in converting the leader to practice God's practices, plan and program then we have a strong growing body , with the people discovering their own diversity of individual personal spiritual gifts, and ministering to their fellow church goers. The body gets knit together in a strong flexible love that is attractive and not repulsive. I enjoyed the discoveries you have shared - learned by giving the long needed funeral for the bricks and mortar mentality of what has grown into the infamous mega churches.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF CHURCHES IN THE US ARE APOSTATE. WALK AWAY FROM ANY 501C CHURCH. I STOPPED GOING TO A CHURCH SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

This is going on with our church. UMC requires us to pay $50,000 by September 30 2024 to leave. We barely have enough each month to pay the pastor, the pianist and pay the power and water bill. UMC has made it has difficult as possible. UMC has decided to follow what man wants instead of what the Bible teaches.😢

Is the speaker Jewish? If not, why is he wearing a hat indoors while talking about the Christian religion?

Jesus will Judge False Prophet

Sad to see a "Christian" church leave the UMC. Jesus gave us one command. Love one another. When you base your faith on who you exclude, is it really Christian?

I was raised in the Presbyterian church. By the time that church got around to voting in sin and depravity it had been entrenched in reality for a long time. The Methodists are pretty much the same. They have had open gay clergy and gay marriage for a very long time. The vote was no shock to me at all.

Thank you for hanging in there man of God!

Thank you man of God for not giving up, look at the lives you've Changes.

And opportunity to spread the good news of Christ

What a magnificent story!

The progressive churches are just making crap up and deciding what they want to believe at this point. I am Episcopal. I got called out and put down by my Priest for insisting that Mary was/is a virgin. When I quoted the Bible, the Nicene Creed, and several of the early church fathers my Priest yelled: you do not have a right to an opinion until you go to seminary. I am not so concerned about a little conservative or liberal leaning. More and more "Christians" are just throwing out the Bible and long established doctrine for whatever. And that is what I am taking umbridge with. And it seems to be in the Mainline Denominations that have gone super progressive that are doing this. Personally, I am sick of being laughed at and am looking into other denominations.

Proverbs 6 vs 16

No we try to hold piece .

Homosexuality has no place in Christianity

I just watched the video on RUclips about this congregation leaving the UMC 3 years ago. Today is June 8th 2024. I was intrigued by the events as they were unfolded by the Pastor. I was taken back in my life with the UMC in western New York back in the late 80s. My friend and I wrestled with the Dist. Superintendent and Bishop for the same reasons of apportionments and unable to do any missions work, barely able to meet monthly expenses. On Jan 31st, 1990, after a vote was taken to Continue to pay apportionments levied by the Dist., my wife and I and my friend and his wife left that local UMC. We are now in Mesa, AZ and members of the Gateway Fellowship SBC in Gilbert,AZ. The Devil has been persistent in his attack on the UMC and has succeeded in part. BUT KNOW THIS... GOD will prevail in the Hearts of True Believers as HE has in the life of your congregation and church. God Bless you ALL. Ed Greene (mesabarker@gmail.com) 585-721-0099

No She pastors, according to the Bible, I Timothy 2:11,12 No LBGQ in leadership, that is against the requirements of an elder 1Timothy 3:1-7.

No she. No lbgq , 34:00

Been there. Our church - a small congregation in a large building, in a small town, had several meetings to determine whether or not to stay with the UMC. One of the meetings involved the Dist Super., who told us how much money it would cost us to leave. Way more than we could afford. The church, and the property it sits on, are fairly valuable in money considerations. The congregation voted..and I was very surprised when they voted to stay with the UMC. I struggled with that outcome for a while, (still do), but even though I love my church family..I left. The UMC made it all about money. That, to me, is a "worldly" decision instead of what I think a church ought to be. I wish the UMC well, I'm gone.

How did a Methodist pastor speak for almost half an hour about his church and not once utter the name of Jesus?

I was in an independent nondenom church. The building was slated for demolition because of highway construction. The state offered a buyout package; very generous, especially since it was an older, dogeared facility. Leaving out tons of details, the semi-retired founding pastor got it in his head that the congregation owed him a tithe of the buyout money. Our board of elders politely said no, that we needed the funds to start over; so he filed suit against the board. Instead of fighting, our congregation decided to let him have the property. We picked up lock, stock and folding chairs and found a rental facility with which to start over. We literally had folding chairs, an old cranky sound system, plus instruments owned by the musicians themselves and not much else. The founding pastor watched attendance dwindle from 350-400 to less than a dozen in the space of two weeks. Meanwhile, the congregation pulled together, found a permanent facility and continues to prosper.

Stop making excuses for the United Methodist Church. They’re not a church they are political agenda people I served as a missionary for many years Asia Africa I have ministered and many conservative Methodist churches the people you know who go there should know better don’t make excuses for them God’s wordis truth. There is no one who say there are Christ like person. She never compromise the message of God to his son Jesus Christ, our Lord.

God does not change.

I could always tell when one of our pastors came out of Duke. They were very liberal. Lately they began to slip in the gay agenda in our bible study. Most members didn't see it. Now the UMC has gone off the deep end. I was waiting and hoping that it would go away... but it has reached and crossed the final line. I am very sad that finding a new church away from Methodists is overwhelming at my age. Giving up my precious sunday school class will be depressing.

However if they stay in the methodist church that allows same sex marriage allows female ministers and all of that they are conjoining it which the bible does not

I am sorry. You lost me in your intro. "Something happened so serious that we paid big money to be allowed to leave the denomination BUT I don't want to criticize or say anything negative." I want to vomit! What drawer does the bishop keep your balls in? So you will not even criticize the bishop's council that is raping you?? Well enjoy.

lose the background music...so annoying

District Superintendents. Book of Discipline. All the talk of money. While maybe it's unfortunate to some that this has happened to the Methodist church, it's not wholly unexpected. You can't pretend to be surprised when you walk hand in hand with the world that your church eventually becomes the word. You people made this happen. You chose the doctrines of men over the word. You chose to structure your church like the world instead of by the scriptures. Now you're paying the price. The Southern Baptists are next.

If any (Christian) churches don’t preach EXACTLY WHAT THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE SAYS. Then they are blasphemy against Gods word. And by the way prosperity gospel churches don’t preach the salvation message

I left the Methodist church I attend a small interdenominational church that preaches the bible now

When you believe in blasphemy, you are not Christian. Gay marriage is not blessed in the KJV Bible. It is not blessed by God. Leave the United Methodist Chuch.

They went with the flow like many other churches as the are scared of persecution. Jesus warned us if we Godly in Christ, we WILL suffer persecution. Choose this day whom you will serve.

Find a Traditional Catholic Latin Mass there in beautiful Pennsylvania. Come home. Orémus Y'all.

And now the UMC is preventing churches from disaffiliating!!!! It's disgusting! The UMC has brought major judgment down upon itself.

Is this video the final one of your podcasts?

Attended duke divinity one semester, it was a liberal cesspool

Well, and a few years could be 10 or 12 years from now you will splinter in have disagreements just like every other group.

UMC lost their backbone

Great video!

Surprised to be leaving UMC after 61 years.

What does "not as healthy mean"?