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Convert Drum Racks from Ableton Packs into MPC Standalone Kits using AKAI Force's Project Import
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Drum Kits, that you'll find within Ableton packs, come with samples in AIFF-C format, which means, you cannot just drop the samples into a standalone AKAI Force or MPC.
Here I show you a way to use the Force's Ableton-Project-Import-Feature to being able to use the Ableton Drum Racks standalone on the Force or MPCs.
If you know of any quicker way to get there ... please tell me ;-)
Cheers!
0:00 Intro
1:52 1. Create the Ableton Project
2:48 2. Rename the Tracks
3:10 3. Collect All and Save
4:29 4. Transfer Project to Force
6:12 5. Save individual Kits on Force as .xpm
7:45 6. Create Previews
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Drum Kits, that you'll find within Ableton packs, come with samples in AIFF-C format, which means, you cannot just drop the samples into a standalone AKAI Force or MPC.
Here I show you a way to use the Force's Ableton-Project-Import-Feature to being able to use the Ableton Drum Racks standalone on the Force or MPCs.
If you know of any quicker way to get there ... please tell me ;-)
Cheers!
0:00 Intro
1:52 1. Create the Ableton Project
2:48 2. Rename the Tracks
3:10 3. Collect All and Save
4:29 4. Transfer Project to Force
6:12 5. Save individual Kits on Force as .xpm
7:45 6. Create Previews
1...
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Finger Drumming on Akai Force - Lofi Hiphop Beat (Live Performance) Intertonale
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Many „first times“ today. * First finger drumming live performance with the Akai Force. * First time using only samples I received from @zwinzscher_lisa - she recorded during jamsessions at #intertonale (@proberaumscheibbs ) * First performance video in the spirit of Red Means Recording ( @jjbbllkk ) * First time using my new video equipment #akaiforce #akaipro #fingerdrumming #liveperformance ...
Is there an updated way to do this?
Thx bruddah! Skip the USB mode with a USB stick! Save on computer, drag to stick, open from USB, hold Save, tap Drum Kit, save to a folder on the SSD.
thx!!
Hello. Nice tip...works for me with ABLETON BUILT IN DRUM RACKS....but....Why it doesn't work with SELFMADE DRUM RACKS. I mean...I have built my own drum track, but AKAI FORCE give me an error when I try to load the project. As said, this is not a problem with ABLETO BUIL IN DRUM RACK. I know I can load the AIFF FILES one by one (no C on this AIFF), but ...the idea was building big drum racks on ABLETON (more comfortable to me) and then just IMPORT TO AKAI FORCE and JAM. ANY TIP?? Sonnige Grüße von den Kanarischen Inseln.
do your drum racks just contain simpler instruments or did you add additional effects and chains per cell? could be the issue ...
@@leosun_music No , no effects. I also tried to modify an ABLETON BILT IN DRUM RACK by the substitute of existing clips with some random of mine...but...when I load project on FORCE...same error. Indeed...the sounds I changed...FORCE didn't load...and the original one...were all there. Could you please do the same test?? I would be great.
Really great content brother. Thanks for this.
Does this work with MPC Keys?
no, because only the force can open ableton-projects. however the kits that you generate with the force can be moved to and played on mpcs as well ...
I just got a Force and this is so useful. Thank you!
Can you do this on a Live? I cant seem to open/load the .als Thanks
Awesome tricks and tips all round. Well done
Huge thanks! I ended up speeding things up by not renaming the drum tracks in ableton but instead just batch rename the xpm files after saving with Force to get rid of the drum track numbering. Just used Forklift (mac) to batch rename using Regex [0-9] and then - will rename all the xpm files in 2 steps. Also no need to convert previews to wav. Force plays the ogg files just fine, so just batch rename adg to xpm will do the trick.
Excellent tutorial. This was exactly what I was after. Thank you! Toller Hack, kann ich gut gebrauchen. Hatte mich schon gefragt, wie ich meine eigenen Drumkits aus Ableton in die Force bekomme. Jetzt weiß ich das. Danke!!!!
danke für das feedback, gern geschehen :)
Hello regaz! Perhaps trivial question, I have a drum rack made in Ableton and I would like to export the midi clip, with kick, snare, etc. to AKAI FORCE. Is there a way to not lose the effects I put on? That is, compressor, reverb etc. Thank you!
no, i don't think you can do that. the force cannot import the ableton effects. just the bare minimum. you would need to recreate the effects in the akai format on the force ..
@@leosun_music Thank you! Btw, I created a drum kit with sounds made by me, so not native to Ableton. Is the procedure for exporting it and saving it in Force the same as you did in the video?
thanks
Thank you x
Can you do the same with maschine expansions thanks
Different: for that you'll need the software "Kit Maker" - just google it.
Thank you for that info
Super super vielen Dank
Ganz herzlichen Dank für das Teilen dieses tollen Tipps!!!
Ganz herzlichen Dank für das Teilen dieses tollen Tipps!!!
Great hack! One thing I noticed is that since Ableton auto defaults to each drum pad being -12dB it loads them in Force the same way and if you don’t change it in the force kit, it sounds very low in volume. Have you found the same or an extra step to convert all the drum pads within a rack to 0dB before Collect All & Save?
When i try this process it says sample missing on the force. So i load it up and everything is there but the samples.
One question, some of the stock drum rack kit has compressor and other effect. Do you have to disable and delete them all before transfering to Akai Force? Would it crash Akai Force if you don't clean it up? I would like to ask if this is the same for opening an Ableton project file in Force? Thanks very much!
Thank you for showing this！Btw I wanna ask how would you save processed sound back into a pad of Ableton drum rack? Is there a consolidation option? so I can then just import the sound-designed drum back into the Force as a whole drum kit?
sorry, i could not really follow what you're trying to achieve... can you rephrase it somehow?
@@leosun_music lets say you made some changes to a drum sound in the drum rack (ADSR change or added effect) is there a quick way to store the post FX drum back into the rack?
@@entropydisorder6359 There may be an easier way I am not aware of but the first thing that comes to mind is just resampling the new sound onto a new audio track within live and then just dragging the newly recorded sample onto the desired drum rack pad
Thank you! You just saved me hundreds of dollars and many hours of time.
you're welcome!
Is it possible to convert Akai MPC packs to Ableton Drum Racks?
hi, not that i know of in a seanless way. you can, however create a clip, where you trigger each pad after each other, export to .als as audio, and then use simpler to auto-chop via transient detection. not the same thing, and not seamless, i know. for keygroups there is now a solution, search for "convertwithmoss", he added the feature to import mpc keygroups and export in other formats. (e.g. decent sampler)
oh man, I would consider buying the force just for this. I guess this doesn't work with the MPC eh?
don't have an mpc, but there does not seem to be ableton-import for the mpc-line.
Can this be done in the MPC LIVE?
clever dude. thanks!
THANK YOU! :)
Can't get this working on my Mpc live. Anybody else tested this on a Mpc live? The rack doesn't`t show up in the mpc finder. Yes I switched to the "kit" filter in the browser. Would be great if I can get this working.
i think ableton import is just a feature of the force. once you converted the kits, you can use them on mpc, but you cannot use your mpc to convert, as far as i know.
@@leosun_music Alright, thanks. That explains it...too bad
This is great! Thank you!!
👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Love it dude where are the samples from man
Follow @pony_pracht on Instagram and ask her 😉 that’s what I did. These were improv live jams from an experimental music festival
Thanks for sharing!
You’re welcome
This is Awesome!! Thx!!
Dope finger drumming mate! Really great job!
That’s awesome, thank you! I think that based on your approach, it is possible to make a script to automate that. I’ll have a look.
Actually it is not that simple... Ableton's "adg" file is a compressed "xml" file. If one could parse this "xml" and then convert that to "pgm" back, it would work.
@@madiscience sounds very nerdy and out of my reach. :)
@@leosun_music sure, that is also out of my reach. It was a dream. Your approach is pretty straight forward though, thank you for that.
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Beautiful!
Brilliant !
Cheers! 🍻
Are you saving to an internal sata drive
yes. didn't mention that.
Digging your page too! Ready for more videos!
thanks for stopping by! yeah, I'm new to this video-uploading game ... will definitely make some more ..
Danke sehr! Sehr gut erklärt.
gerne!
Thank you ! This is a brilliant idea and smooth execution!
thanks!
PS. If you want to convert Abletons Core Library, you can't do the right-click "Show in Finder". You'll find the Kit-Previews here: Windows: C:\ProgramData\Ableton\Live 10\Resources\Core Library\Ableton Folder Info\Previews\Drums Mac: Macintosh HD/Applications/Ableton Live 10 Suite ->> Right-click “Show Package Contents” ->> Contents/App-Resources/Core Library/Ableton Folder Info/Previews/Drums
You’re a genius 🔝🔝🔝
Cool info but can’t you also use the Force or MPC’s AutoSampler to do this too ?
thanks for your comment. actually i haven't investigated the auto-sampler yet. but from what i read, isn't it made for autosampling to keygroups? like melodic samples? but even if you could auto-sample to drum kits: for demonstration-purposes i just put 5 kits in the projects. When you do it on your own, you can easily put all kits of an ableton-extension into one project, 20,30,50 and do all the batch processing, back and forth between PC and Force etc ONCE. I guess this method is still faster than sampling ...
Can Auto Sample anything tho I just did 61 Drum kits with your method and I’d say YOUR method is MUCH faster than using AutoSampler. I use AutoSampler a lot with my Synthesizers and create my own Expansions to use Standalone Great job Thank you! Now I need to figure similar method for my Logic Drums :)
@@Madmohawkfilms that's so great to hear, that you immediatly tried it out and had such success! trying out autosampler is definetly on my todo list of exploring all the depths of Force. you inspired that once more ... recently got arturias v-collection ... and this is what i want to use AS for ..
@@leosun_music I only have Ableton Intro so 8 at a time is all I can do, 61 drum kits went pretty quick tho. Definitely check out the AutoSampler , VERY powerful . Got a friend with a Synth YOU LOVE abut have no room for or no cash for ? AutoSample it and use those Keygroups as if you had that Synth!
@@leosun_music oh yeah being able to use your AutoSampled VST’s Standalone is a perfect use case. Lemme drop one more idea, go check out Plogue’s AlterEgo VST, Voice Synthesis. Not as good as Yamaha’s Vocaloid but also NOT $500 like Vocaloid. AlterEgo is FREE.
Excellent!
Very informative! Thanks!
you're welcome. Just giving back to the community - hadn't found info on this specific topic yet.
Feel free to join our Force-User-Group on Telegram: t.me/akaiforce - sharing techniques, musiques, solutions etc. ...
Awesome job. Did you know that you can cycle through 4 samples with one pad? I use it on high hats to get some slight variation.
thanks! i know that you can use that technique, but haven't been around playing with it. There are so many areas to explore within the device ... hihats seem like a good application for that.
@@leosun_music That’s how I made the bass line in my video. I did 4 different notes that work per chord.