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Christianity, Cults & Religions, Pt 12
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Christianity, Cults & Religions, Pt 12
Christianity, Cults & Religions, Pt 11
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Christianity, Cults & Religions, Pt 11
Christianity, Cults & Religions, Pt 10
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Christianity, Cults & Religions, Pt 10
Christianity, Cults & Religions, Part 8
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Christianity, Cults & Religions, Part 8
Christianity, Cults & Religions, Part 7
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Christianity, Cults & Religions, Part 7
"Shrewd As Serpents" (Author Ariel Abornski)
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"Shrewd As Serpents" (Author Ariel Abornski)
Christianity, Cults & Religions, Part 6
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Christianity, Cults & Religions, Part 6
Christianity, Cults & Religions, Part 5
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Christianity, Cults & Religions, Part 5
Christianity, Cults & Religions, Session #2
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Christianity, Cults & Religions, Session #2
Christianity, Cults & Religions - Introductory Session, Pt. 2
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Christianity, Cults & Religions - Introductory Session, Pt. 2
Christianity, Cults & Religions - Introductory Session, Pt. 1
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Christianity, Cults & Religions - Introductory Session, Pt. 1
Counter Cultural Living - Dealing With Doubt
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Counter Cultural Living - Dealing With Doubt
Brent and I appreciate being able to share in the service and are reminded of the years we spent in Sacramento as neighbors. Our thoughts and prayers are with you, and we look forward to eternity together when all our sorrows will be turned to joy. From: Marty Cobb
Sorry I couldn’t make it Unc,I love y’all and appreciate the part Aunt Rose & you played on our lives.
Your story can help the next family.Thank you for your strength of awareness. This is an educational lookout. I can relate to a son age 17 up's and down friends social media death . As a parent I was last to know my son took his life. Survived the hardship from the lost of a child never gets easy. Grief doesn't get easier loneliness is a suffering no one can imagine unless they walk in the shoe's of pain that dispose's love of a child a mother carries for 9 months . Your family is in my prayers. God bless you...DaWanda
Very good sermon ❤🎉😊
Beautiful tribute. I'm so very sorry for your loss 🙏
In hindsight, Walsch's handwriting may have been more semi-automatic than automatic. His "God" controlled his hand, holding it in place, but did not make him write. Walsch chose to write what he reckoned "God" would want to say. Then I mentioned A Course in Miracles as another example of automatic handwriting, but later I read that it was more like trance channeling, with others recording the dictation it produced.
Is there a way to delete some of the get acquainted time on the RUclips edition of the service?
A miracle!
Amen!
Long Live Keanu 🕊️🕊️🦋🕊️🕊️🦋💜💙🖤💚 Long Live Twin Trippy
If you want to be in the rapture, you MUST be ALIVE AND REMAIN ALIVE UNTIL CHRIST’S SECOND COMING: 1 Thessalonians 4:15-16-17 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are ALIVE AND REMAIN UNTO THE COMING OF THE LORD shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the LORD himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are ALIVE AND REMAIN shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the LORD in the air: and so shall we ever be with the LORD.
Trusting that God will be with you all
And grant you peace.
Pre trib rapture is false teaching, no where does Christ say He comes before the tribulation. Christ tells us He comes back immediately after but the majority of Christians reject it and teach against it-Him. And the real Christ also told us the false Christ comes first) 23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. (If they say Christ is coming here before the tribulation believe it not...any Christ that comes before the tribulation is a false Christ) 26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not (If they say he will be in the air before the before the seventh trumpet believe it not.
an excellent book ! I am reading it 😊
The swastika is the symbol of the kundalini serpent power.
Excellent presentation. I had a niece who went to a psychic. The woman described many aspects of her life and talked about her dead grandma. She even described kolaches, a pastry her grandmother used to bake. The psychic, with the help of familiar spirits, convinced my niece that her grandmother was with her and wanted to converse with her. Then, when Dawn asked about her boyfriend at the time, wherever they would stay together, the psychic said the she didn’t see them ever splitting up. Perhaps the evil spirits made an educated guess based on what they knew about Dawn and her boyfriend, but they were wrong. He did break up with her.
Job 14:10-12 12So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep. 13O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!
I haven't listened to this video yet but I agree with his view at least that it is either post tribulation or somewhere between 2 Thes 2 and that point.
Never forget to mention 2nd Thessalonians Chapter 2 along with 1st Thessalonians 4:13-18. Paul reiterates what he told the Thessalonians (Christians) in his first visit, 1st Thessalonians letter and whatever else he told them beyond the letter (2 Thes 2). Chuck Missler (very uncharacteristically) loves to rip 2 Thes 2 apart, parse it, change its meaning or whatever he has to do to prove his/their secret pre-tribulation belief and Chuck Missler says it is a secret. I don't have anything against Chuck Missler (except for this). His knowledge and understanding of grammar is far beyond mine or most other people's understanding yet he ignores and bypasses the rules of grammar where it applies directly to 2 Thes 2. Why? Because 2 Thes 2 blow the crap out of Chuck Missler's secret (his words) pre-triub rapture theory. And this was and is a shock because I have listened to Chuck Missler's videos for a long time and never noticed any of this until the past month or so. Frankly, it's kind of distressing to me personally but I'm going with God's word regardless of who the Bible teacher is.
Church /The Bride will be outta here before tribulation...the tribulation is FOR the JEWISH PEOPLE -EVERTHING IS HAPPENING AROUND ISRAEL ....EVEN ARMAGEDDON
No sir
Hello from Shreveport, Louisiana. GracePointe Church of the Nazarene.
He said BBQ TRIB! LOLOLOL
SacFirstNaz TechDeck guy, thank you for sharing this video and view of the Post-Tribulation Rapture and debate of sorts. I believe some information was left out (obvious to some). Even the person skipped over a word during their narration of 1 Thess 4:16, at about 10:29 in this video. Did the narrator at that moment intentionally leave the word out, or did he do so unknowingly? "The dead in Christ shall rise FIRST. The Dead rising FIRST (before the living) is key to understanding the rapture. We know the Dead also rise on the Last Day (see John Ch 6). In John 11:24 Even Martha, brother of Lazarus knew the dead shall rise again "in the resurrection, At the Last Day." 1 Cor 15:20-23 confirms this; that All die. Christ was the first to be resurrected from the dead. Every man in his own order. "Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's AT HIS COMING." Along with Matth 24, Mark 13, and other scripture, the gathering, or rapture happens AFTER the Tribulation. If some people struggle with this truth, then it's the people that do not understand the scriptures. Meaning, the scriptures don't have to meet OUR beliefs, but we have to meet the scriptures. The word Church is synonymous with the words Saints, The Elect, The Saved, The Believers, and My People. Also, the Last Trumpet is not the same as the 7th Trumpet in Revelation. The word "Church" should be looked at in scripture and its content. Also, "Come up hither" is not only mentioned in Rev 4:1. Come up Hither in 4:1 was clearly addressed to John. "Come up hither and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter." We also find that wording in Rev 11:12. "And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them." So is Rev 11:12 the Rapture? Answer: NO also, right ! For Rev 11:12 is clearly referring to the two witnesses. btw, Perry stone edges towards the pre-trib rapture. He openly has said he doesn't know. Also, in Matthew 24, Jesus is talking to the Jews / Israel. Okay. Does that mean Matthew 24 is only referring to the Jews? The answer is clearly NO. We know this, from Romans Ch 3; Ch 10. Paraphrasing, God is not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles. Romans 3:29 "Yes, of the Gentiles also." Romans 10: there is no difference between Jews and Greek / Christians. For the same Lord is over ALL that call upon him. If I told my neighbor a storm is coming, and to protect themselves, does it matter what religion they follow? Or, will I only tell the neighbor who believes in the same things I do? Aren't they BOTH my neighbors? one more thing to add... These clear scriptures mentioned, are in the New Testament. God bless you all, my friends.
Hello The rapture is the catching up to meet Jesus as he descends earth at the second coming When a royal visitor or important figure would come you would go out to meet them and escort them into the city Jesus is coming to the earth Believers will go up to meet him and descend to the earth with him - The gospel is the gospel of the kingdom! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! Believers will rule the nations with Jesus! The Messiah died for his people! God resurrected the Messiah! The Messiah will resurrect his people at his coming! They will rule the nations! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Matt 24 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
Wow. You lost me
No Man of God in Scripture talks about a 7 Year Trib! There is NO 7 Year Trib! I challenge all believers in Jesus to SHOW us all the VERSE where any many of God says that there is a 7 Year Trib?????? Men of God in Scripture ONLY talk about a 1260 Day Period of Trouble! 1260 Days is 42 Months! 1260 Days is 3 1/2 Years! 1260 Days is Time and Times and Half a time! Gabriel and Jesus ONLY Prophesied One Tribulation like no other and it ONLY begins in the Middle of the 7 Year Covenant with many! 7 Year Covenant with many is what Gabriel Prophesied NOT 7 Year Tribulation! Lets stay with Scripture and ONLY Scripture! No One in Scripture speaks of a 7 Year Tribulation!!!!!!!
Jesus and Gabriel and Paul the Apostle speak the Truth about the Tribulation and that Man of Sin responsible for that Tribulation! Gabriel Prophesys to Daniel that a Man of Sin will come and give support and strength to a 7 Year Covenant with many! That man will come in Peace and seem wonderful because he supports the 7 Year Covenant with many and acknowledges the God of Heaven and Gods Holy saints. BUT!!! In the Middle of that 7 Year Covenant with many that Man then reveals his true agenda and he becomes that Man of Lawlessness, that Man of Sin, that Son of Perdition! He has total INDIGNATION against that Holy Covenant and against God and against Gods Holy people and He will commit that Abomination of Desolation and make that HOLY PLACE Desolate! He will Persecute the Holy Saints of Jesus for 1260 Days! ONLY after that 1260 Days of Trouble has been completed will that Time of Trouble end and shortly after that Jesus will COME and GATHER the Saints to Himself and Destroy that Man of Sin! Its a Post Tribulation COMING of Jesus and RESURRECTION according to Gabriel and Jesus and Matthew and Mark and Luke and Paul and John! Too many Witnesses in Scripture Prophesying a Post Tribulation COMING of Jesus! Paul said to the Church that Jesus is NOT COMING to GATHER the Church to Himself UNTIL the Apostasy and the Revealing of that Man of Sin takes place first whom Jesus destroys when Jesus GATHERS the Church to Himself! The COMING of Jesus and GATHERING of the Church to Jesus is ONLY after the Working of Satan! At Christs COMING Satan is Bound, the First Resurrection takes place, we MEET Jesus, Jesus destroys that man of Sin and then Jesus Tramples the Wine Press of His ORGE against all that are Gathered at Armageddon against Jesus! One COMING of Jesus for ONE RESURRECTION for One Rapture and ONE Day of His ORGE! None of this Filthy Pre Trib Garbage! Trust Jesus and Gabriel and Paul not this Filthy Pre Trib Garbage!
Then why does it say that the Jews will have to run and be hidden by the earth swallowing the flood of the other army and that that the devil then turns his wrath upon the others that believe in him Jesus and then comes to Great persecution where we give up our lives like Jesus did on the the other way we'll be by sword or guillotine we are the Sheep led to the slaughter everyday that's the truth scripture at at the last trumpet we are removed just before he pours out his vials of anger and wrath upon the earth and on pond the unbelieving and unrepenting then we are snatched as out of the fire before he pours out his total anger for those that destroy the earth and still commit sin evil and don't repent of their doings Amen
Proof of a pre trib rapture pay attention to the cloud and Clouds Jesus appears in.. Act's chapter 1 verses 9 10 11 cloud. Luke chapter 21 verses 27 and 28 cloud. In Revelation chapter 1 verse 7 Jesus is coming with the Clouds. This is the second coming of Jesus.
Thank You for taking the time to discuss the Post Tribulation Coming of Jesus Doctrine that Jesus, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John as well as Gabriel and Daniel Declared as is written in Scripture! Even Paul confirmed this when Paul said that when Jesus COMES to GATHER the Church to Himself Jesus destroys that Man of Lawlessness! If Jesus Destroys that Man of Lawlessness at His COMING that means the Great Tribulation has ended! At Christs COMING when the First Resurrection takes place Satan is Bound and that man of Lawlessness is destroyed and for the First Time in History Jesus will Trample the Wine Press of His ORGE against all that will be Gathered Together against Him at Armageddon! Jesus Prophesied that when the 6th Bowl of Thumos is poured on the River Euphrates then the armies will be on their way to Armageddon! Jesus then Declares to the Church Behold He is Coming as a Thief and that we MUST be watching and keep our Garments clean so that we may not be found naked that they may see the shame of those that do NOT arise to Meet Jesus!
When does our Lord come in the clouds? By His own lips: “AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS!” When are His people “gathered together” according to Paul? At His coming, which will be heralded by the LAST TRUMP - which is when the dead in Christ are raised first ON THE LAST DAY!
Amen Ken! Jesus has Promised every single Believer that eats of His Body and Drinks of His Blood that at the Last Day of the Age when He shall come He will raise us to meet Him! Together all that Partake in the First Resurrection will rise into the Clouds so as to Meet Jesus in the air! Jesus will send His Angels to gather every single one of us to Meet Jesus!
Well said.
The eco is getting bad
Okay...let's say the church goes through seven years of hell on earth...so what's the point of being taken out of harm's way, after the harm is over ? Why did you fail to grasp this most basic logic ? And why then did Jesus himself teach that we ought to "pray that we may escape all these things and be worthy to stand before the Son of Man" in Luke ch 21, vs 34-36? Did Jesus not tell us a parable about the wheat and the weeds growing together , but coming to a separation point where the weeds can be dealt with appropriately, and the wheat can be preserved without harm ? Nowhere in the Bible does God say how he is going to preserve his church if they are present during the Tribulation...he doesn't tell us because the church will be preserved with him where he is.
For a starter there is NO such thing as a 7 Year Tribulation! No Man of God in Scripture Prophesys a 7 Year Tribulation! That rules out that lie! As for the Great Tribulation that is spoken of in Daniel as well as in Revelation and in Matthew, Mark and Luke Jesus makes it 100% Clear! We are to Shine for Jesus and keep our Faith and be patient!~ We are to Endure whatever may come and not lose Hope and remain Faithful even unto Death as our Lord Jesus was Faithful! When we LOOK at History we have seen and still see that the Believers in God have always suffered Persecution even unto Death! The Truth of what Jesus said is that we MUST SEE all the Things that Jesus described before we are to ever Look Up and when we do see all those Things THEN we are to Look Up and Watch and Pray KNOWING that the Day and Hour of His COMING is near and we are about to escape from what we will be seeing and stand before Jesus! A man can never escape from a jail or a burning house unless he is in jail or a burning house LIKEWISE we will ONLY ever be escaping from what we must first be seeing! We MUST KEEP the Word of Christs Enduring Patience no matter what comes and Jesus Himself will also Keep its from the Time of Testing! Keeping is NOT removing!
What are the "these things" he is talking about?
@@RaptureofSaints I don't think you've read the Bible...Daniel most certainly did say it was seven years just as Jesus most certainly did quote from Daniel about what would happen halfway through in Mathew 24. The Lord rebuke you for your lies.
@@markanthony3275 You have spoken very foolishly Mark, I am disappointed in you for what you have just posted! I have Read Daniel and I know 100% that Gabriel spoke to Daniel about a 490 Year Prophetic period! Gabriel said that from the Decree to when the Messiah would come would be 483 Years! We all know that the 483 Year Period was Precise! Gabriel then makes it clear that there is going to be a man that comes that Confirms with many a 7 Year Covenant! Its a 7 Year Covenant with many! Nowhere in Daniel does Gabriel NOR Jesus say that there is a 7 Year Tribulation! IT IS A 7 YEAR COVENANT with many and in the Middle of that 7 Year COVENANT with many that Evil man will Forsake that 7 YEAR COVENANT with many and that man will have Indignation against that Holy Covenant! Jesus Commanded us to READ all of Daniel so that we may Understand what Jesus was talking about! Its a 7 Year COVENANT with many (NOT) a 7 Year Tribulation! In Daniel and in Revelation we are ALL TOLD that the Time of Trouble is 1260 Days Long! The TRUTH is that the Time of Trouble is 1260 Days LONG which is 42 Months which is 3 1/2 Years! ONLY in the Middle of that 7 Year COVENANT with many will that 1260 Days of Tribulation begin! It might pay for you to Rebuke yourself as you yourself have spoken against Jesus and Gabriel! I will TRUST Gabriel and Jesus and what they say about the 1260 Days of Trouble! Time for you to actually Begin Studying Scripture instead of shooting from your mouth to Quickly! Find the Truth before you speak lies to another Brother in Jesus!
I can assure you that I KNOW what is written in Daniel! It certainly does NOT SAY in any way that there is a 7 Year Tribulation! It says 7 Year Covenant with many!
I believe Christians are joint heir's with Israel, part of the commonwealth.
All I know is that Christ doesn't have two bodies.
Anen Brother. The Pre Tribulation Rapture is a great deception ❤
Enooch was taken up before the flood. Daniel was elevated to a higher position before his three friends were tossed in the oven. Lot was removed from Sodom before its destruction. Jesus is not going to leave His bride to be beaten up by the trib.
@@davidhelander4955 You're a coward..
Do you guys know how bad the tribulation period is....
@@gamalieljb6752 Bad for who? According to you, all the Christians will be in heaven....
@@dazstudio68 im talking about the jews (the Israelites) will humble themselves before God in those time. I said do you guys know how bad it is to say that the post trib (people who believe that believers will be raptured after the tribulation period) is wrong.
God has TWO MESSIAHS! THE KING and THE KING'S SON, PS.72:1 ruclips.net/video/PwVnm2OE_8o/видео.html
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The second coming of Christ Mathew 24:29-31
The Post-tribulation Rapture is confirmed by the mysterious Song of Solomom. The video below gives the amazing information: ruclips.net/video/B9tluzwH3VM/видео.html
When Jesus comes the SECOND time He will appear to those who love Him. Hebr 9:28. This same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.( Second time.Acts 1:11.) Immediately after the tribulation Jesus shall appear from Heaven. (SECOND TIME) Matt. 24:29-30. When Jesus comes the second time He will descent from Heaven and we will meet Him in the air.( 1Thes 4:16). When Jesus comes the second time we will be gathering together unto Him.(2 Thes 2:1). When Jesus comes the second time He will come in flaming fire and vengeance to those unbelievers who had fallen away from the truth and then Jesus will be glorified in his saints in that day.(2Thes 1:8,10). Before Jesus comes the second time a falling away from the truth must take place for the antichrist to be revealed.(2Thes 2:3) When Jesus comes the second time He will destroy the antichrist with the brightness of His coming and those who had fallen away from the truth..(2Thes 2:8,10). Nobody is going to disappear (raptured) before Jesus comes the second time.
Well said.
Great teaching. It's encouraging to find a church that is helping members stay away from deception. Unfortunately, too many feed the sheep, but don't protect from the wolves
This episode wraps up our 13-week class and brings it home to our own churches, where we still need to be discerning about what doctrines are taught. We are reminded to know our Bible, keep its message simple, call on God's grace daily, be "Berean" Christians (testing claims by scripture, Acts 17:11), and be a part of a Bible-believing church of like-minded people.
Matthew 4:4 and Luke 4:4 “And Jesus answered his, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every Word of God.” Mark 4:14-15 “The sower soweth the Word. And these are they by the way side, where the Word is sown; but when they have heard, satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the Word that was sown in their hearts.” John 6:44 “… and I will raise him up at the last day.” John 6:45 “… and I will raise him up at the last day.” 1 Cor 15:23 “But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterwards they that are Christ’s at His coming.” That teaches the resurrection of believers at the last day or at Christ’s coming, also Paul teaches this in 1 Thess 4:16-17 “For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ will rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” Now Peter teaches only two comings of Christ in Heb 9:28 “So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for Him shall He appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” That makes Paul’s teaching in 1 Thess 4 of how and in 2 Thess 2 of when, one event. At Christ’s second coming three things will happen, 1. To gather all people that belongs to Him unto Him (John 14:1-3, 1 Thess 4:14-17, 1 Cor 15:23) 2. Secondly to destroy His adversaries, and the anti-christ as their leader. (Isaiah 11:4, Zechariah 14:3, 2 Thess 2:8) 3. And when satan is bound (Rev 20:2), Christ will establish His Kingdom on earth, as Daniel 2:44-48 prophesied. The Bride of Christ Rev 21:9 “And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and he talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will show thee the Bride, the Lamb’s wife.” Paul uses the analogy of a bride, (separated, chosen, pure, and prepared). Also in the Old Testament, Israel are called “married to God” Isaiah 54:5 “For thy Maker is thine husband; the Lord of hosts is His name; and thy redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall He be called.” Israel is the firstborn of God and will be saved as a nation. At Christ’s second coming; Ezekiel 36 and 37, and Romans 11. We as believers in Christ are part of His body, 1 Cor 12:27 “Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.” Ephesians 5:30 “For we are members of His body, of His flesh, of His bones.” Colossians 1:18 “And He is the head of the body, the church; who is the beginning, the first born from the dead, that in all things He might be pre-eminence.” Christ’s words: Matt 9:15 “And Jesus said to them, Can the children of the bride chamber mourn as long as the bride groom is with them? But the days will come, when the bride groom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.” Mark 2:19 and Luke 5:34 (and Paul teaches in Gal 4:26 “But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all”, the same as the angel showed John in Rev 21:9. Also like the parable Jesus taught in Matt 22:1-14 about the guests invited to the marriage, and Luke 14:16-24 about the great supper. Yes we must be like a bride, pure. But we are not the Bride of Christ. In Revelations 6 we are taught of seven seals, the seven trumpets (Rev 8) and seven vials which are filled up with the wrath of God (seven last plagues) Rev 15. In Matt 24:29 Christ teach when the tribulation ends. Same signs as in Rev 6 the sixth seal. We as believers of Christ’s Words, and children of God are not destined for the wrath of God, but will endure the tribulation (John 16:33 “These things I spoke unto you, that in Me ye may have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulations: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.”, Matt 13:21 “Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation of persecution ariseth because of the Word, by and by he is offended.”, Rom 5:3 “And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience.”, Rom 12:12 “Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;” 2 Cor 4:17 “For our light afflictions, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceedingly and eternal weight of glory;”, 1 Thess 3:4 “For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.” The wrath of God: 1Thess 5:9 “For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to salvations by our Lord Jesus Christ.” 2 Thess 1:8 “Inflaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:” They that do not obey the Words of Christ are in danger: Luke 6:46-49. In John 6:27 “Labour not for the meat which perish, but for the meat that endureth unto ever lasting life, which the Son of Man shall give unto you. For Him hath God the Father sealed.” My friend, we must obey the Words of God and Christ, let none fall in the same snare as Eve in the Garden, the serpent deceived her to let go of the Words of God and to accept a replacement. The devil uses earthly wisdom, but his goal was to replace the Word of God, Ephesians 5:6 “Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.” It places men in disobedience to God: 1 Cor 2:5 “That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the Power of God.” Let us be followers of Christ in all obedience and love. God Bless.
There is no post tribulation. There are seven rapture's in the Bible, three have already happened. Enoch. Elijah and Jesus. The next one is the pre-tribulation rapture, then during the great tribulation period, there's the rapture of the great multitudes, the two witnesses and the 144.000. But NO post tribulation rapture.
Prove it.
@@Mike65809 read what the Bible says about the end times. Then you'll see that there's no post on rapture.
@@alanhales239 Well please show me a scripture in context that says it's something else. But remember, context is key. I can show you various that show it's post: Jesus said he will raise us up on the last day; Jesus said his return, when he gathers his elect, will be after the tribulation; Paul said the church will receive rest from her persecutions when the Lord Jesus comes back and deals out tribulation to those doing the persecuting. That's three.
@@Mike65809 I have given you scriptures for this question about the last day resurrection TWICE. Someone must have deleted them. The only last day resurrections for those who die in Christ, is at the pre-tribulation rapture. The only other last day resurrection is the sinners, they get resurrected onto a new body and are judged and cast into the lake of fire.
@@alanhales239 u r misinformed. Jesus will only return once and that is on the last day at the last trumpet. From all bible references, the only thing that happens after the rapture is the wrath of God and destruction of the anti Christ n sinners. Jesus told us in matt 24 that we wld go tru tribulations and that he will return immediately after the end of the tribulations to rapture his ppl n bring judgement on the world. Also, Paul told us in 2thess 2:1-3 that the rapture wil not happen until the antichrist is revealed. And the antichrist is destroyed at the coming of Jesus. if the antichrist is destroyed at his coming who then will exert tribulations on his elect?
The following is an except of Chuck Smith in the Blue Letter Bible and it is what I've always believed. Now immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened (Mat @); This will be the final aspect of the tribulation, the great cataclysmic signs in the heavens. The son darkened, the moon will not give her light, the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall appear (Mat @-30) When? Immediately after the tribulations of those days, then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory (Mat @). It says, "and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory." All of the tribes of the earth. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other (Mat @). Now those who take the post-tribulation theory, that Jesus is not going to take the church out until after the Great Tribulation, use this as one of their chief verses to defend their position. For He shall then, after He returns, after the Great Tribulation, He will then send His angels with the sound of a trumpet. The trumpet of God shall sound, "and they shall gather together, His elect from the four winds from one end of the heavens to the other." Now one thing that they always disregard is that the Bible speaks of that trump by which the church will be caught up to glory, as the trump of God always shall sound; whereas, they confuse that with the seventh trumpet of the book of Revelation, because the trump of God is called the last trump. And so they say, the seventh trump is the last trumpet in the book of Revelation. But again in the book of Revelation there, the trumpets of the seven angels, and the seven angels prepared to sound their seven trumpets. And there is a vast difference between the seventh trumpet (the trumpet of an angel), which is declared to be a woe, and that trump of God whereby the church should be called to her reward. Now this particular verse is one of those compilations where Jesus put together three verses out of the Old Testament; whereby, God has promised that when the return of Christ takes place, and the kingdom is established, that God is again going to take back the Jews as His people, as a nation, and He is going to bring them back in the land, and honor them once more. And in Deuteronomy chapter thirty, three and four, in that particular promise as the Lord is talking about returning them from their captivity, He said, "and if any of you are driven out to the uttermost parts of heaven, from there will the Lord thy God gather thee, and from there He will fetch you. Notice He will gather together from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other, but that heaven if you be scattered, He will gather you from there. Deuteronomy thirty-four. In Isaiah @-13, there the Lord said, again as He is predicting the regathering of the people "oh ye children of Israel", the end of verse twelve, "it shall come to pass in that day that the great trumpet shall be blown, and they shall come which were ready to perish, in the land of Assyria, the outcast from the land of Egypt, and they shall worship the Lord in the holy mount at Jerusalem." And so the trumpet, the great trumpet sounding, Jesus makes reference to that. And then once more in Isaiah @. Here they are told to be gathered from the four corners of the earth, or from the four winds, as Jesus makes reference here. "An ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth." So it is not at all damaging to the scripture, but only in harmony with the other prophecies, that this be understood to be the ELECT JEWS, NOT THE CHURCH.
The Bible never mentions a "Pre Tribulation rapture" so you have no argument
@@dazstudio68 The Bible doesn't say Bible - or trinity - or rapture either. Did you really read my post?
@@davidhelander4955 Because no one knew what the word "Bible" meant. Same as the so called "Pre Tribulation Rapture" there was no concept of this ridiculous doctrine until about 200 years ago....utterly non Biblical.
Look at Mathew ch 24 and it's context. Jesus is talking to his Jewish disciples about Jewish things. He answered their first question about the destruction of the temple, and then he pivots to the Tribulation ( the signs of his soon return), specifically to the last three and a half years . How do we know this? He quotes Daniel's prophecy which described what Antiochus Epiphanies did in the 2nd century B.C. ...and which the final anti-christ will do half way through the Tribulation when he betrays the peace deal he brokered for Israel. Just look at all the specifically Jewish references ...the abomination of desolation...the temple...the sabbath...the rooftop...the Judean wilderness...the "elect" ...and the fig tree , which can be taken as a symbol for Israel ( recall Jesus cursing the fig tree with no fruit as a symbol of not finding the fruit of righteousness in his own people). If people (leaders who teach the Bible) can't realize that Jesus is talking about what will happen to the nation of Israel during the Tribulation here...and this has nothing to do with Christians , then there is something seriously wrong with their understanding. I used to just think that they couldn't put all the other references in the Bible together and get the logical conclusion that the rapture is real. But now I see it a different way...remember what the Bible says about those who deny that Jesus came in the flesh ? What was the purpose of coming in the flesh except to offer himself for the salvation of the world. What is a part of that salvation? Salvation from the WRATH of God. " For we are not appointed unto WRATH" . So now I see this is a much more serious thing...a form of denying that Jesus came in the flesh.
@@markanthony3275The Great Tribulation is for true believers, wrath is for those who are not....
Correction! - I made a nine-second mistake from 23:23 to 23:32. I mistakenly tried to correct myself for supposedly having displayed the wrong slide for the source I had just quoted from. Turns out, it was the right slide the whole time. Then I also failed to read from the source I had just advanced to, imagining I had just quoted from it. Good grief! Please just ignore the 23:23-23:32 mark (nine seconds). Thanks.
Why do you believe that the marriage of the Lamb in Revelation 19 will not take place in heaven? Why do you believe the armies of heaven dressed in white linen are angels ? Why do you believe that nobody goes to heaven based on John 14:1-3?
Why do you not believe Rev 16:1-6 is man's wrath?
Jesus said he will raise us up on the Last Day, not 3.5 or 7 years prior.
Where did he say that?
@@b-Dog9 John 6.
Correct Brother.....Pre Tribbers seem to have a problem with basic English and the simple word of Truth.😃😃😃
@@b-Dog9 Try reading the Bible....you can get it online now dood
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, modern Dispensational Theology falls apart, and the pretrib removal of the Church falls with it. The Capitol "C" Church, as we use the word today, is not found in the entire Book of Revelation. Individual church bodies in ancient Asia Minor are found. In Revelation 12:11 we find those under the blood of the Lamb. A person cannot be under the blood of the Lamb and not be a part of the New Covenant Church of Jesus Christ. Verse 12 of this passage proves at least part of the tribulation period is the wrath of Satan upon the people of God. Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. "It may come as a surprise to most pre-Trib prophecy students that the post-Trib position (in its primitive form) is the oldest point of view." The quotation above is from the book "Will You Escape The Tribulation? RAPTURE [Under Attack]", by Tim LaHaye, copyright 1998, Page 197. The gathering of the Church is described at the end of 1 Thess. Chapter 4, and the timing of the event is found in chapter 5. The word “But” in the first verse of chapter 5 connects the two chapters, and the words “we” and “sleep” in verse 10 of chapter 5 prove the two chapters are connected.
Last trumpet is sounded bu 7th Angel which is the beginning of the end of the world. How can you possibly have millennium after last trumpet ???
It's the end of this age. There is an "age to come" which the Scripture speaks of.