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We mean the advice of nearly every prominent scientist that has worked with this species or in fisheries management, which yes does also include Dr. Chris Malinowski who has worked with this species for over a decade and has published numerous peer-reviewed publications on the matter. You can see a list of people who understand the science and data, and who call for continued protection of Goliath Grouper signed here: www.chrismalinowski.org/goliath-grouper-conservation

The problem has been exponentially increased in florida due to the crazy population increase. Especially with foreigners, because they just don't speak the language or don't care (and their culture is different)... Sucks, because people won't work together to fix it, and all our best fisheries are getting screwed like no tomorrow.

They are incredible animals. Gentle giants. But if you aren’t expecting to see one, yes they can surprise you!

If you would like to see published results from these data, we have already published a peer-reviewed study that I’d be happy to send to you. And the purpose of our work is to also continue looking at these trends into the future so that we have better standardized data than what the state is currently working with to manage this species. We have data working back through about 2010, and so our results are very conclusive. Please let me know if you have further questions.

Poaching is a problem in many locations and isn’t isolated to any one group. It’s an unfortunate truth that poaching happens, but we know it does. Enforcement of the expansive ocean is difficult

@@OceanFirstInstitute I mean, it's typically isolated to foreigners (typically poor ones) as they don't have the same laws and don't care about breaking our or getting educated on the subject... People who live in the area and make a decent living don't generally enjoy destroying the very ecosystems they've paid hundreds of thousands to live near. And, trying to be PC and "not offend" anyone with statements like this really aren't helping brother. They're making things worse... You need to hit the nail on the head, if Cubans are the problem then call it out. If it's south/central americans call it out. If it's haitians, call it out... The problem only gets fixed if we know all the different parts!! (But, discrimination and racism, especially because of a few bad apples ruining the bunch, isn't cool and I'm with you there 100%)

Although unregulated fishing is a problem across much of our global ocean, management difficulties are different across US federal and Florida state waters. For Goliath Grouper, the issues, if you watch this film, are more with environmental degradation, habitat loss, periodic extreme temperature events, previous overfishing, and current legal and illegal fishing. We need to work with what we can manage, like managing our state resources better, before turning to doom and gloom from a perceived threat from China fishing vessels.

So your argument is the at all science is flawed, because what you are seeing on the water doesn’t match regulations? I understand what you are saying, to some extent. There is a common misperception, which I mention in another comment, that there are more fish than what managers say. There is also a common disconnect between fishers, scientists and managers. What scientists regularly do is gather data from all regions based on breeding stocks, not just one area where there may be more or fewer fish locally. What a fisher sees in one area is often very different than another, and so the job of scientists is to understand overall patterns. And managers, often different from scientists, will take what outside (I.e. outside the managing agency) scientists have found, and what their internal agencies have found, along with stakeholder input, and make decisions. In the case here with Goliath Grouper, again if you watch the film here, is to fill data gaps to have more standardized data where it is missing. We share the same concerns about how data is sometimes collected through interviews, and also from catch data. All have their biases. And I can tell you, it is very difficult to measure and estimate populations of fish! But in using multiple different measures, we can come up with the best estimates possible, and that’s what is needed for improved management. So take another look at this video and understand that as scientists we are always trying to improve our estimates. But we are not managers of the resource. We gather data to better inform management.

@OceanFirstInstitute I never said "all science." I said,"failed science." You know I'm correct. You try to justify mangrove snapper regulations. Just try. You can't. Environmental pressure on the oyster beds and grass beds is infinitely more damaging than fishermen..... who PAY more in licenses than non-fishermen.... Street run-off. Pesticides.... oil... soaps .... brake pad dust.... Things that are never going to be regulated or reduced. People have to drive. But to pass off "fish laws" as protecting the fish is flat out misleading and misguided. Nets? Sure.... Long nets can over fish. Night poachers? Yes ....But people fishing off a pier, a gigantic artificial reef, are not the problem.

Do you mean loss of habitat?

Exactly correct.

Management of Goliath works differently than sturgeon, where sturgeon don’t have the same polarizing image as Goliath Grouper and sharks do.

I’m assuming that lionfish was speared before the Goliath ate it?

Yup

@@Linksfishingunfortunately I’m not aware of any natural predation by Goliath Grouper on lionfish

@@OceanFirstInstituteI’ve caught Gag Grouper, Black Grouper, Goliath Grouper and Amberjacks on Lionfish. It the lionfish is in distress they will eat them

Are you saying you're against poaching illegals poaching?

Not sure what your suggestion is here. Do you mean all grouper species? Goliath Grouper?

Well, how long has this been going on ? Put limits and hope they come back...

@@richardnotestine7333 FWC opened the harvest on Goliath Grouper in 2023, but Goliaths have been on a comeback since being severely overfished by 1990, to the point of near extinction.

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@@OceanFirstInstitute Thank you!

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Thank you! We will :)