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@@ignazioacerenza9881 If Fox is knocked offstage at a low angle he’ll usually have to up b from pretty low making it a 50/50 for if he gets spiked. Sometimes he’ll get spiked during the startup of his up b too.

@@SlimCloud9 I disagree

@@l.n.3372 I completely forgot about the Belmonts, they would have been a good choice for the video because I didn’t mention any tether recoveries

@paristrats What would you have said for Belmonts, out of curiosity? I liked the format of your video so I'm just wondering.

@@l.n.3372 He would probably come after little Mac in the video, not sure what the tip would be. Here’s a script I just wrote: ‘But the character who gets the most use out of his aerials in the entire game is Simon. Well, Richter as well but nobody cares about him… Simon can tether to the ledge with up air, forward air & back air which is usually better than up b. Unfortunately his air mobility is almost as bad as Ganon’s & his up b tends to trade with long lasting aerials’.

@paristrats Awesome summary, appreciate it! But hey! I've seen plenty of Richter xD I see him more often than Simon

@@l.n.3372 Yeah I know most people prefer Richter, that’s why I would put it in the script to annoy the Richter mains 😁

@@thesardonicrenegade Gonna be honest I completely forgot the Belmonts existed in this game. I’d say their recovery is better than Little Mac’s though

Thanks

@@JorgeBattH If you hit their shield with pretty much any move then it will break shield & if they hold out their shield long enough same thing

@@paristrats with that logic then ok EVERY move can break shield waiting long enough or hitting them before lol What i am trying to say is that for it to be a “Tip” it needs to be consistent, and ness Up B to shield is very situational, 90% of the times you are just going to get punish

@@minixlemonade2335 Yeah Ridley’s recovery is pretty good, I only included him because I wanted to talk about how few angles he has on up b. I should have been more clear about that in the video

@@timaeustanis Thanks

I've never had anyone tell me I have a Smash accent before but thanks!

Yeah you can only cancel Wolf's reflector.

@@paristrats I see.

@@bohemianharpsicord4294 I didn’t count backward angles because they’re the same as forward angles

@@bohemianharpsicord4294 Actually I just tested it & there’s a lot of slightly different angles, I think it’s 10

@@opo4724 🤣

@@dagoodboy6424 True

Or robin with no b o o k / hero with no mana

@@Stelthily nvm thats even worse

@@abcluigi21 Instead of inputting a Smash attack with the A button input it with the B button & you’ll get Smash input side b

@@paristratsI dont use the A Button for Smash Attacks but is it like how Samus’ Side B works?

​@@abcluigi21 Exactly

@@abcluigi21 Yeah it’s the same input

Aight thx

Facts

@@leopoldocao6829 I didn’t forget Ness, in hindsight he would have been a good choice but he has a lot more mixups & and an overall better recovery than most of the characters in this video

@@paristrats i see

Ness’s recovery is really good because they gave him one of the most mobile air dodges in the game and his Up B can be used multiple times when recoil off the bottom stage

@@kendrick5501 Yeah Ness would have been a good choice I probably should’ve included him in the video

Ness has great jump and airdodge You can certainly space around it to make sure your opponent can’t just swat you out in the air And if you mess up you’re likely dead Plus you have to space your counter to hit him cuz most of the time it ain’t working lol

@@Alibaba-id1cs the fact he has a great jump, air drift, & the longest air dodge in the game are basically saving graces for Ness. But even then, you don't want to exhaust all your options or you'll be forced to do PK Thunder to recover. And even if the counter isn't properly spaced, Ness's PK Thunder 2 distance gets severely halved. Ness has good options to escape disadvantage, but his disadvantage itself is still terrible.

Thank you!

I never played Luigi in Smash 4 so I don’t know what it felt like but I play a lot of Luigi in Ultimate & it does not feel good to die for hitting your opponent with side b. Also I still sometimes use down b in recoveries because it has invincibility

​@@paristrats I'm a little late, but as a Smash 4 player, basically if you used his second jump and at the beginning you used the down b and mashed, you could get extremely high, If you combined it with his Up B you could basically do the same vertical distance as a Sora double jump + Up B or a Mewtwo's Jump + Double Jump, You could fearlessly recover from the edge of the blast zone to stepping onto the Battlefield ground (not even to the edge, directly onto the ground) He was a little bit maybe too good at recovering vertically, Also thanks to the (strange) way hitboxes and windboxes worked, if you did that and someone got in the way and got hit, it was almost like a spike around your whole body, it had so much hitstun and he didn't drag up with him causing them to only receive one hit that it made it impossible for many to come back after being hit (and worse if they lost their second jump) I hope I have helped

@@Delta_064 Thanks

I’d let Luigi have his cyclone back in exchange for his grab to no longer be a hitbox

@@Alibaba-id1cs 🤣

They really did, Roy’s just so much better in this game 🥲

@@paristrats worst part is that Fire Emblem lore-wise, Chrom fits Roy's moveset better than Roy himself

@@paristratsas a Roy main I be making it back from places I didn’t know was possible 😂. Chrom just dies the moment he doesn’t have ground beneath his feet

I don’t think it’s even a recovery. I see it as an attack.

@@thesergalladaf6902 when the airdodge is a better recovery move:

I wouldn’t really have anything interesting to say about their recovery. Also their recovery isn’t thaaat bad

Yeah, dont write a poor me note from an s tier character lol

Aegis recovery way better than almost every swordie since it snaps to ledge and can inv frame from switching keeping momentum + mythra side b + foresight makes her able to safely recovery

@@NikocadosPopeyesChickenSandwic Yeah she has way more mixups than most of the characters in this video

@@paristratsIt’s a lot worse than Ridleys

@@lol-yz8fh Cloud’s recovery is bad but I didn’t think it was bad enough to make it in the video. And thanks!

it's not that bad

Cloud can stall the side b and neutral b, as well as use his huge hitboxes to fight anyone that tries to challenge him. He has one of the best air dodges in the game and just phenomenal air speed. Also up special can get suicide kills. It is really not worth going out there to edge sometimes to edgeguard cloud. Plus, he has limit.

@@Animatix19 true, but ruclips.net/user/shortseAdHqKokqzo?si=wkcl4a8-kxL0QtTT ruclips.net/user/shorts_4QuWmDfmJs?si=OiCmDpecmDgPbVt-

@@Animatix19 with limit his recovery is good, I will admit that

@@hairyspider151 Damn I didn’t know ICs recovery was so bad they would have been a good choice for the video

So the thing that makes even sopo harder to edge guard than you think is that side B is a great mix up. Assuming you were launched high, the sopo can choose pretty late of they are gonna side B or ledge grab. And edge guarding both options is really tough.

@@Plutoburns Sopo needs to be launched at a pretty specific angle for that to be a mix-up without telegraphing it with jump, normally it's one or the other. And then squall is super linear and easy to punish. It's also not that hard to cover both options, a lot of chars can do it.

@@hairyspider151 im definitely not claiming sopo is hard to edge guard, but its hardER than many people expect