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The Switch and its fake baby dungeons are reminding everyone how well crafted they used to be. TotK is a joke.

Finally someone talking about our glory through history, my my it has been too long!

Thank you for making a video about my 2 favorite things

Nintendo needs to bring back dungeons. I’m not talking about 2.5D Zelda games. Which they brought it back in echoes of wisdom. Thank the Lord God they did cuz my nostalgia for dungeons have peaked. I want complex dungeons far worse than the water temple or any temple that was difficult in 3D Zelda games. Make them huge which was rumored to be in Botw/Totk but never got. P.S. I want the next Zelda game to be Darker than Dark…Darker than Majoras Mask and Twilight Princess. If they have to make the game somewhat a mix of both nonlinear and linear…totally fine with it. I want them to focus on sword skills and upgrades and they still can implement the breaking of weapons. Also bring back underwater swimming and fishing.

I really love the theory that the ocarina of time is actually MADE of time shift stone.

Yes please

I'd play it.

Zelda just sort of uses all different ways you can have time travel at once inconsistently you've got closed time loops, you've got total time resets, you've got split timelines (aonuma no), you've got inconsequential paradoxes, whatever I always had the idea though that since it outright involves the goddess of time, that the Triforce and such kind of higher divine matters can exist sort of Outside of Time and are allowed to be more loose

there's a funny thing in OoT involvng a time mechanic that does happen but, we don't actually see you know those weird door of time blocks that you make disappear? when you play the song of time to them, you aren't actually making them disappear, you're *sending them through time* the catch is that you only get to see most of them as a child *or* as an adult, and the few you do see with both are bugged out. with one exception! in the lava room in goron city, there's a block that you do get to properly see it move through time, letting you reach the grotto on the other side without the longshot

Neat overview, man! Rather interesting to note that OoT doesn't fully utilise it's time travel due to development timelines. Honestly just looked at the Spirit Temple and thought nothing more on it, but man it'd have been cool to see it used a bit more now that I think about it.

I've known from the start it doesn't matter, I care more about it then anyone at nintendo. It's just my hyperfixation

Stop trying to make "The timeline doesn't matter" happen. It's not gonna happen. lol To be honest, the inconsistencies born out of time travel in the Zelda series are pretty minor by time travel inconsistencies standards. Although in this regard the Zelda series has a get out of jail free card in the fact that... Well... It ain't science fiction, but fantasy. Meaning things don't have to align in a scientific sense, and changes can very easily (and believably) be waved as magic and/or divine intervention. Also, the Zelda series up to this point has followed the golden rule of all great time travel stories: don't make the story about time travel. I don't remember where I read or heard this, but whoever said it, they were right: the best time travel stories aren't really about time travel, but rather use time travel as a framing device for other aspects of the story, and don't bring too much attention about how time travel is supposed to work. And the Zelda series, whether consciously or unconsciously, follows that rule to a T, not only in narrative, but also gameplay.

My headcanon for only Breath/Tears is that Zelda's "sealing power" is a variation of Recall where Ganon gets sent back into his own past. Zelda had no knowledge over her power when it awakened, and those huge uncontrolled recall bursts did a real number on the timeline

7:18 Not only are there two of the same secret stone, but during the Molduga attack when Rauru, Sonia, and Zelda are all using their respective secret stones to enhance the power of their light beam, two out of the three secret stones are the same stone (Rauru's and Zelda's, Sonia's stone becomes Ganondorf's stone but never time travels). Throughout the whole Imprisoning War the only reason there were a total 7 sages to oppose Ganondorf is because of the extra stone from the future. It's actually pretty fitting for her role as the Sage of Time, in a way. I love time travel.

To put it simply, Tears of the Kingdom is seventy dollars. As a consequence, I have not played it -and considering Nintendo's apparent refusal to ever lower their prices, I don't know when I will. This is ultimately sad to me.

Personally, I’d like to do this one video better: why is EVERYONE obsessed with Ocarina of Time? Like, seriously! I get that it’s the first 3D Zelda but my goodness can we finally admit that it’s been beaten as the best game by Breath of the Wild or Tears of the Kingdom already? I’ll admit that OOT is iconic but many of you guys out here saying it’s the best game ever made or the best Zelda ever made and it’s been beaten several times over at this point imo

What’s funny is Lakebed and Great Bay are so much worse than OoT Water Temple.

Some of my favorite games involve time travel… But that’s beyond the point. In the case of Zelda, time travel has been an influence in the series. While Breath of the Wild didn’t have it in the sense of time-jumping… Why did Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity exist in the first place? While AoC wasn’t canon, Tears of the Kingdom did reveal that all of the events in Breath of the Wild and its own present era are all a part of a time loop… And Age of Calamity did what? No really, what was the point? You know what? Who cares at this point? The damage to the Era of the Wilds was done… Retcons, shrines, lack of value, and uninteresting lore… so much gone to waste…

Speaking of Nayru… Take her 2D sprite model from the Oracle titles and compare it to Francisca from Kirby Star Allies… Notice a resemblance? Francisca may not look it because she’s been through situations that might have altered her appearance into the Poe-like mage we see now. And it’s not just appearance, but also personality. Calm, collected, graceful, associated with ice and water, blue hair… She can also freeze her opponents… (and keeps her frozen victims in her “trophy collection”…) Sound familiar? Am I making a connection here? What if… Francisca is the descendant of Goddess Nayru? (Call me crazy, but there are loose correlations between The Legend of Zelda and Kirby.)

I know you said the Zelda Timeline doesn’t matter. It only matters to me in the context of a single canonicity. *Skyward Sword, Ocarina of Time, Majora’s Mask, Twilight Princess…* To me, these games are canon in that order. The events of The Wind Waker and onward are parallel. But if the word “logic” is taken into consideration, then the Adult Timeline shouldn’t exist because the Hero of Time reversed all of that. Now I’m not saying to dismiss Wind Waker in any capacity, but the logical conclusion is that the events leading to Twilight Princess are the canon outcome. Everything else is just an excuse to introduce a multiverse… That’s what doesn’t matter to me. And about the Hero of Time with the Triforce of Courage from the future and there exists a full Triforce at the same time? Well, my theory is that the Triforce of Courage wielded by the Hero of Time came from the future while the Triforce of Courage pieced together by the Hero of Winds is the one from the past the Hero of Time returned to, but because there’s no hero from the point Zelda sent him to the past, the past Triforce of Courage was fragmented into 8 shards. To put it simply, the Triforce of Courage swapped places from the respective eras. The one from the future went to the past with Young Link and later wielded by the Hero of Twilight; the one from the past went to the future with no hero to seal Ganon, which in turn caused it to shatter into 8 and was to remain hidden within the Great Sea until Toon Link came into the picture. And bear in mind that when Hero of Time was sent to the past to regain his childhood, the Master Sword hasn’t been pulled from its pedestal. It sat there since Demise’s eradication… fast forward to Twilight Princess… that’s more powerful the Master Sword ever has been… “The sword will continue to gain strength if bathed in sacred power. The stronger that power, the more powerful the sword becomes.” Suck it, Light Dragon! So the Master Sword the Hero of Time used to seal Ganon remained in the future, separating itself from its former master to await a new one then meet its own end beneath the waves… That’s just my hypothesis. Your take?

I like the idea all of the disparate time shenanigans are all possible in the Zelda universe. Interesting to think the entirety of the Zelda timeline is contingent on all these processes going on in the background. Also as you said it doesn't matter. Zelda lore in general doesn't matter and is very loose but we love it because it's Zelda lore. It isn't some literary or fantasy masterpiece but it's my Zelda.

Seeing you list all the time travel mechanics in the series, makes me realize just how underutilized recall is in TotK. Recalling enemy projectiles & gears was only so interesting for so long- I think I mostly used it to correct my own errors (like dropping a device I was building). I think there are some very inventive players out there who went the extra mile, but I'm still more of a sucker for how Skyward Sword handled it with the time shift stones. Also, I will never tire of Groose scream-falling into Link as a metaphor. Loved the editing!

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I would probably say yes, there are two Zeldas in TOTK... but the problem is that the light dragon doesn't exist in BOTW. Made that reveal way too obvious since I knew they wouldn't just add a whole nother dragon without an important reason for it. That and the hair. Meanwhile in Skyward Sword, that orange crystal is in the back of the room the whole time, so there are in fact two Zeldas in that game as well.

As a lifelong Doctor Who fan, I've always felt that time travel has the potential to be one of the most powerful storytelling devices in fiction. Zelda is no different, and I think the reason why many Zelda stories are so lauded is in no small part due to their implementations of time travel. Ocarina of time and majoras mask make the best use of it narrative-wise imo, and both stories could not be told otherwise. There's a certain emotional element unique to time travel fiction I think, and it has allowed Zelda to craft some of the most genuinely moving and thought-provoking stories ever told.

Bro this channel is so good

Regardless of what the fascination with time travel does to their lore, it did give us OoT and MM, arguably the greatest time traveling games outside of Chrono Trigger and the mechanics in the other games are always on point as well. I think TotK is the only real "fumble" time traveling wise because it does feel kinda tacked on compared to some of the other games.

Hey LBG, are you like me and think that the time mechanics of the Zelda franchise are based off the film Source Code (2011)? In the film, Dr. Rutledge says, “Source Code is not time travel. Rather, Source Code is time re-assignment. It gives us access to a parallel reality.” If you replace Source Code with “The Legend of Zelda franchise” it gives us a clue that what Link is ACTUALLY doing is slipping between parallel realities to accomplish his task/solve puzzles. With that now confirmed, the timeline really doesn’t matter because none of the games are connected except by vague echoes between dimensions. Also did you know that the name of Jake Gyllenhaal’s character in that film is Colter Stevens? Wild

Nintendo are the ones that made the timeline though, and were always trying to connect the games even at the very beginning of the franchise

nice

Love the breakdown. Great video. Good thing that the timeline doesn't matter... 😉

I guess, based on this video, the Timeline DOES matter

I always appreciate it when the Oracles get some recognition. I wish they'd remake them in the same way they did Link's Awakening. Well, one can dream...

Awesome Video Bro.

Games as experiences are rare. Games I describe as greater than the sum of their parts are hard to come by and that's why people don't want to spoil it. I can't beat it it's a very scary game to me since the immersion that I'm exploring space is too great. That alone speaks to it that I'm so immersed that I feel like I'm exploring space and it feels like a danger. It's your first souls game (for me it was 3) and man is that an experience I cherish. I love DS3 is speaks to me in a way that most games can't with it's themes, world, and even just the sense of adventure that's hard to capture.

That botw is zelda 1 thing is babies first propaganda. Bit extreme with what the term propaganda represents but it's textbook propaganda done masterfully.

The difficulty is the sauce. It's technically do it in any order but most people will do it in an intended order. The game being designed with that in mind allows the feeling of adventure to even exist. Being able to go to death mountain any time you want is a different feeling of it being this dangerous mountain you have to work towards. If there is no sense that any part of the world is equally as valuable or dangerous as every other something is lost. They were even aware of this issue with the color system but it's a poor mans substitute. Zelda has always been a grand adventure at its most basic.

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Link is the only silent protagonist i can think of that is their own character and their thoughts and feelings are easily understood since he is pretty much a surrogate for the average person. OOT is just cowboy bebop for kids thematically and the older you get the more you go "damn, that hits too close to home". The time trilogy OOT, MM, WW as I call it hit the older I get. I was replaying the ending bits of WW and damn the king I relate to and I'm only 30 man. Wind Waker in general is highly underrated especially talking about how depressing it can get.

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I've always had to scratch my head at the complaints about this dungeon. The atmosphere, the storytelling (dark Link esp) and the setting are so compelling. I agree with you that the aesthetics of the original are far and away the best, and have aged spectacularly- I will never tire of the water reflections lighting the dungeon. I have no problem loosely using walkthroughs on harder dungeons in the series, and doing so makes this dungeon very enjoyable if I get really stuck. I have memories of my (much better at gaming) older brother getting stuck for weeks in this dungeon because of that one key, and I can see why that would tarnish the experience for some, but I've experienced that same thing in other dungeons, especially in the older 2D games, so I don't think it's unique to this dungeon.

I played Ocarina of Time for the very first time two months ago and I dreaded going to the Water Temple because I always heard people it was "the worst dungeon in the series" When I finished it, it quickly became my favorite dungeon in the game alongside the Spirit Temple and I will defend it until I die (also was I the only person in the world that never had to backtrack in the entire dungeon to get one key I missed?) And for the Iron Boots swapping, I played Link's Awakening's gameboy version so I was more than used to going back and forth in the menu to change something

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I’m an admitted sucker for that key in the middle tower. I’ve forgotten it on more than one play-through. The last time I finally got it the first time and was proud of myself. Switching to the boots is annoying, but that’s my general complaint about the series as a whole. It wasn’t until the switch games that I ever found it easy to switch out items.

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in a game with the entire Gerudo tribe, The most replayed cutscene being the seat of Zelda's pants makes me sad for this generations future 😂 ,

As far as the Ocarina of Time temples go, the Water Temple is a definite top 3 pick for me (the others being Forest Temple and Spirit Temple). I don't have a lot I can say about it that wasn't already discussed in the video; I had a "that key" moment in everyone's favorite spot under the platform when I first played through it, sure, but I guess my feelings for the Water Temple are over-all pretty tame, which is pretty good given what it's supposed to be. The Forest Temple I mainly enjoy for the atmosphere and the amazingly ambient song that plays for it; the entire location is just something I'd love to have more of to explore. The Spirit Temple, I suppose my only real grievance with it is that it always feels "too short" for me, but that's partly my fault for getting Silver Gauntlets before starting Shadow Temple and then coming back to do the adult portion after. Again, great song, real enjoy the feel of the place as a whole - especially with how grand and almost "final" it all feels. The Water Temple, now that I know it to a point and have spatial awareness enough that it only mildly annoys me for a moment at the worst of times, is certainly intriguing to me, in a way. It's the closing of the middle-act of the game (at least when playing the dungeons in order) and I really do like how even on a world-building level, it tries to challenge Link in ways he has not been challenged by anywhere else up to that point, and having to fight Dark Link - for Link to have to face his own manifest darkness - before plunging into the Shadow Temple, I think is quite neat.

In my latest playthrough I did just a few days ago, I found that back-walking to the other side of the illusion room instead of facing forward doesn't trigger Dark Link to appear - not until you turn towards the path forward and look back again. Also if you have created the Scarecrow's Song when going into the Water Temple, you can create a shortcut back up to the high-water song marker that lets you skip a lot of back-tracking (though you have to pay attention to where Navi flies to to notice it, and you actually have to get up there the normal way at least once to play the song at the location).

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I truly did not realize how deeply the frog lore went in Zelda as I am mainly familiar with the more recent titles, this was awesome to learn about! Also thanks for the froggy game recommendations at the end there were a few I hadn't heard of yet and will definitely keep an eye out for!