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people now naming people of the past this ot that means little to nothing. they were same people the days before as the days after.

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Awesome analysis of shadows in Inca Landscape!

Good conversation. I will say this though, the relationship between archaeologists and native peoples has improved significantly over the last 5 years even, there's an immense amount of collaboration between private, academic and avocational groups and native communities in the form of consultation, collaboration and knowledge sharing. These days, it's hard for archaeologists rarely even set foot on a project without some sort of consultation, it is now built into the processes of academic and government institutions. Shamanism in Utah and neighboring states: Definitely not the mainstream train of thought here, again through collaboration and knowledge sharing with the indigenous people there are now very practical theories behind the why's of particular rock art. Rock art within the professional archaeology community: There is a lot of research being done with the connection between the land, the ancient communities and rock art, an example being a video produced by Crow Canyon called 'Being Fremont in the Uinta Basin: A social examination of through rock art imagery with Elizabeth Hora. This research is being done in conjunction with an effort of create immersive 3d models of particular sites to illustrate the relationship and interaction between certain panels and surrounding landscapes. Also, there are several organizations throughout Utah that I would invite you guys to reach out to or participate in, like the Utah Rock Art Research Association (URARA), and the Utah Statewide Archaeological Society (USAS). There seems to be a misconception with your group about the lack of involvement between professional archaeological communities and the surrounding indigenous groups, a great example of the current professional and academic attitude about involving indigenous groups would be to listen to the introduction of any current Crow Canyon Archaeological Center videos, or Verde Valley Archaeological Center video. Both of these groups have an extensive introduction about how important the relationship with indigenous groups are. Also, I would invite you to get in touch with the Utah State Historic Preservation office and have a conversation with them about your concerns, or questions. They are excited to interact with the public and are extremely eager to involve citizen science.

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Cattails and reeds in an area that get virtually no measurable rain !!?? Sounds like we're misding somthing ?

Nice. I think at the time there was 13 months with 28 days, 13 x 28 = 364, it is loonar calendar well known in neolit Europe, so thats why 13 towers, for watching the moon ... Cheers!

Is the date for 1050 CE an estimate, or specifically correlated to a long count date?

Thanks for posting this. I wasn't able to catch it live happy to finally see this now.

There may be a different perspective regarding roles and hierarchy. For example, who may have been responsible for marking or observing an event? Would this have been the duty of an elder? Or, could it have been a student based on an elder's instructions? For a person walking the traditional road, we learn by doing. Perhaps, a daily or nightly observation of the environment could have been a lesson and a way to carry an intention.

Thanks for posting this.

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