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Both of these scares me

Which one would John and Charles Wesley join?

How true is this from Wikipedia? Is The Institute of Religion and Democracy (IRD) behind the GMC's plan to destroy the UMC?. ____ The Institute on Religion and Democracy (IRD) is an American Christian conservative think tank that promotes its views among mainline Protestant churches, as well as advocating for its values in the public square. Its critics claim that it has been instrumental in attacking mainline Protestant denominations in the United States including the United Methodist Church. Founded in 1981, the institute's primary focus through the 1980s was communism and their opposition to elements within mainline Protestantism that they perceived as supportive of communism. In more recent years, the IRD has turned their main purposes to the promotion of theological and political conservatism in mainline churches, particularly on issues of "traditional" sexual morality and support of Israel. The IRD was founded in 1981 by United Methodist evangelist Edmund Robb and AFL-CIO official David Jessup.[4] Michael Novak and Richard John Neuhaus joined the IRD board early on, as did Christianity Today founding editor Carl F. H. Henry.[2] Mark Tooley became IRD's president in 2009. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_on_Religion_and_Democracy)

Global Methodist is going with the scripture good choice better than being woke

Will there be charismatic GMC'S?

To fall back on orthodox theology in a day when our young people have written off church attendance once they leave the family nest is ridiculous!!! Christian churches have become churches for the middle-aged and elderly and once they die out, their congregations will disappear! Young people, unlike their parents, are not fearful about God and do not feel that worship of God will get them into heaven! Their parents, however, are fearful Christians who see God as Judge and life all about avoiding sin! Jesus stood for love, charity, and acceptance and young people understand this! The Global (United) Methodist movement is ridiculous and a sign of a dying church!!!

Oh my western church keeps more power that interesting

Praise the Lord, so good to hear it

If you lose the literal view of scripture as interpreted by the Holy Spirit, you lose everything

A wide, gracious and loving embrace is not the same thing as presenting salvation to Lost and, dying world

Very confusing

This unfortunate current split in the UMC reminds me of a similar split in southern Methodists in the 1960s -1970s. When I was growing up in the 1960's South, many churches left because they opposed racial integration, believing the Bible called for continued segregation of blacks and whites. My wife and I were both sad and excited as we recently transferred from a church leaving the UMC. We have joined a UMC church that is staying the course until the next annual conference. We would have preferred to see our old church support, and the UMC approve, one of the other options than the Traditional Plan. We hate to see the church divided over this issue of acceptance of gay marriage/clergy. We have gay relatives, and it appears to us they were made by God and nature this way, and deserve full acceptance and support in the church. We suppose the broader issue is how literally we interpret the Bible. We have periodically modified our Biblical interpretations with greater understanding. Like creation, slavery, interracial marriage, divorce & remarriage, mental illness, etc. Perhaps our understanding of homosexuality has improved over the centuries.

This unfortunate current split in the UMC reminds me of a similar split in southern Methodists in the 1960s -1970s.. When I was growing up in the 1960's South, many churches left the UMC because they opposed racial integration, believing the Bible called for continued segretation of blacks and white. My wife and I were both sad and excited as we recently transferred from a church leaving the UMC. We have joined a UMC church that is staying the course until the next annual conference. We would have preferred to see our old church support, and the UMC approve, one of the other options than the Traditional Plan. We hate to see the church divided over this one issue of acceptance of gay marriage/clergy. We have gay relatives, and it appears to us they were made by God and nature this way, and deserve full acceptance and support in the church. We suppose the broader issue is how literally we interpret the Bible. We think our society's understanding of homosexuality has improved over the last many centuries.

Why not? It is a forceful delineation of true Christian faith.

You didn’t include Jay Therrell’s behavior, which is a major piece of this story and comparison. Jay contacted parishioners behind the backs of the pastors of those churches to hold meetings and calls where he disparaged not only the United Methodist Church, but also the pastor in that congregation. Upset at one time about the direction of the WCA, Jay Therrell incorporated a new church denomination with Morgan and Morgan until he was caught, all while serving as a District Superintendent charged with making clergy appointments. He has never publicly apologized for this. Jay wrote libelous blogs with are full of half truths and outright lies about Florida Conference leadership. The conference leadership only met this with public grace. Jay held publicly-advertised meetings on United Methodist property and disallowed the entry of folks who he deemed not conservative enough. Better yet, he did so with an armed guard. Jay blocked every person on his and WCA-Florida’s social media who pushed back (even lightly) against the aforementioned lies. Jay threatened to sue or prosecute anyone who shared GMC related material which he freely handed out at publicly-advertised meetings. Jay, a defender of Scripture-“every word of it!”-filed a lawsuit with 106 churches named against the Florida Annual Conference and encouraged other conferences to do the same. This is of course a direct violation of 1 Corinthians 6. Jay has accepted and received funding and support from the Institute on Religion and Democracy, a political operative group that has historically woven division into mainline denominations, and that as a stated goal of theirs. Then, after all that, he wonders why the Florida Conference will not give him exactly what he wants, exactly how he wants it. He will answer to God for his actions because God will not be mocked. I am sad the conservative wing of our church has not held him accountable for his actions. Instead, they have glorified him.

Let’s write an article why the mainline churches are declining in all areas. Oh! That’s what Chilcotte did. Woke is broke!

Yeah, NO. UMC= No real reliance on scriptural authority. Let's play the woke inclusive game and perform the sacrement of marriage for homosexuals in our churches. Let's also ordain practicing homosexuals into ministry. Let's be woke and refuse to believe doctrinal and scriptural prohibitions concerning these things as well as instead of correcting error, let's embrace error in the guise of loving people all while dragging the UMC and it's people literally to Hell. It is any wonder that the UMC has experienced a serious drop in members in the past several decades just like the ELCA, SBC, PCA and Episcopalians have?

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The division of Methodists along the lines of sexual orientation will, however, greatly aid all single Methodists, who will now know which church to attend to find a date of their preferred orientation. It is reassuring to a straight man to know the pretty girl in the next pew is straight, too. Separate but equal has its advantages. Heterosexuality being the norm, I suspect the GMC will attract more members than the UMC in time. In religious debates, I always bet on Nature. But I’m still troubled by nagging questions. What will happen to the children of GMC members who discover they are gay? Or the children of UMC members who are straight? Will they swap churches for the sake of sexual orientation against their parents’ wishes? If not, will there be contrary factions within each church, championing their respective sexual rights, leading to another split in the churches down the road? I find the whole thing baffling, and where it will all end, God only knows.

Thank you for compiling. I will read each of these.

Could you explain more how the GMC is going to be decentralized? Also, how it will be the local churches certifying candidates? Candidates as in terms of ordination or being a bishop?

In "Two Lists of Reasons" Chilcote states that the UMC is "not so much invested in believing the right things...". That is absolutely right and is the root of the problems that we have right now.