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ISKCON Unity in Diversity
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"If we keep Krsna in the center, then there will be agreement in varieties. This is called unity in diversity. But, if we fight on account of diversity, then it is simply the material platform. Please try to maintain the philosophy of unity in diversity. That will make our movement successful. One section of men have already gone out, therefore we must be very careful to maintain unity in diversity, and remember the story in Aesop's Fables of the father of many children with the bundle of sticks. When the father asked his children to break the bundle of sticks wrapped in a bag, none of them could do it. But, when they removed the sticks from the bag, and tried one by one, the sticks were easily broken. So this is the strength in unity. If we are bunched up, we can never be broken, but when divided, then we can become broken very easily." - Srila Prabhupada Oct 18th 1973
"If we keep Krsna in the center, then there will be agreement in varieties. This is called unity in diversity. But, if we fight on account of diversity, then it is simply the material platform. Please try to maintain the philosophy of unity in diversity. That will make our movement successful. One section of men have already gone out, therefore we must be very careful to maintain unity in diversity, and remember the story in Aesop's Fables of the father of many children with the bundle of sticks. When the father asked his children to break the bundle of sticks wrapped in a bag, none of them could do it. But, when they removed the sticks from the bag, and tried one by one, the sticks were easily broken. So this is the strength in unity. If we are bunched up, we can never be broken, but when divided, then we can become broken very easily." - Srila Prabhupada Oct 18th 1973
HG Kalakantha Das - Is ISKCON Leadership at War with Srila Prabhupada's Instructions?
In this conversation, HG Kalakantha Dasa (disciple of Srila Prabhupada), one of the leaders of ISKCON, discusses the Varnashrama topic. What did Srila Prabhupada want in this regard? Are the GBC and other ISKCON leaders in an active war against Srila Prabhupada's clear instructions on this and other matters?
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HG Kalakantha Das - Srila Prabhupada is the Highest Authority in ISKCON
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In this conversation, HG Kalakantha Dasa (disciple of Srila Prabhupada), one of the leaders of ISKCON, discusses the vital importance of recognizing Srila Prabhupada as the highest authority for ISKCON devotees. Srila Prabhupada is the singular unifying personality under whom ISKCON can remain as one. unityindiversityiskcon.org/
HG Mahatma Das - Unity in Diversity - Practical Ways to Stay United even with Diverse Opinions
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In this interview, HG Mahatma Dasa (disciple of Srila Prabhupada), one of the leaders and initiating gurus of ISKCON, outlines some practical ways we can approach the philosophical impasse on the topic of Vaisnavi Diksa Gurus and remain united as a movement. Please support Vaishnavi Diksha Gurus by signing this petition launched by Kalakantha Prabhu: www.change.org/p/women-gurus-in-iskcon-unity...
HG Suresvara Das - Unity in Diversity - How Srila Prabhupada Practically Applied this Key Principle
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In this interview, HG Suresvara Dasa (disciple of Srila Prabhupada), one of the leading members of ISKCON, explains how Srila Prabhupada taught and applied the vital principle of Unity in Diversity for spreading the divine message of Lord Caitanya.
HH Candrasekhara Swami - Unity in Diversity - Some Key Philosophical Points
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In this interview, HH Candrasekhara Swami (disciple of Srila Prabhupada), one of the leaders in ISKCON, covers some key philosophical points on the topic of Vaisnavi Diksha Gurus in ISKCON. Please support Vaishnavi Diksha Gurus by signing this petition launched by Kalakantha Prabhu: www.change.org/p/women-gurus-in-iskcon-unity-in-diversity-now For more reference information download "Did Srila ...
HG Kalakantha Das - Unity in Diversity - The need for Vaishnavi Diksha Gurus in the West
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In this interview, HG Kalakantha Dasa (disciple of Srila Prabhupada), one of the leaders of ISKCON, outlines the need for Vaisnavi Diksha Gurus in the West and why it is of vital importance to the diversification of Western ISKCON temples. Please support Vaishnavi Diksha Gurus by signing this petition launched by Kalakantha Prabhu: www.change.org/p/women-gurus-in-iskcon-unity-in-diversity-now F...
The Generational Impact of Multiethnicity in Sanatana Dharma Madana gopāla Dāsa Sept 2022
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The Generational Impact of Multiethnicity in Sanatana Dharma Madana gopāla Dāsa Sept 2022
They have changed the books and changed alot of the programs and teachings to cator to modern ways. Prabhupad would definitely not be ok with book changing.
I’ve a few former female devotees from Krishna life ashram and now visit our center in Minneapolis.
What is the retention rate for new devotees at Krishna Life? I’ve heard it is low.
Is it mere conjecture that leadership is warring against Sacred scientism and supreme authority?
Things are not necessarily diametrically opposed, one may embrace developing favourable environment and culturing participants for that metric.But for heaven's sake superiority smirks cast aspersions on one's perspective 🙏👣
The highest authority is Jiva Gosvami .
Good conversation....both Prabhus are on track...these conversations are badly needed 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜it seems that perhaps the editors of Srila Pranhupada's books put in negative energy about "women"...in a way that causes pain💜💜💜💜
Good conversation....both Prabhus are on track...these conversations are badly needed 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
These days men seem to commit adultery just as much...🙏🙏🙏
The first day I visited the temple (LA., 1973), I was introduced to the president. While sitting in his office discussing Bhakti philosophy, he asked me what I would like to do in service to Krishna. That one simple question was the hook that reeled me in. I knew that this was the right path for me-it was attractive and inspirational, and motivated me to stay. I could utilize my nature in connecting with God and serving Him. Whether it was going on Harinam, making dioramas, constructing a simple white wooden box for Srila Prabhupada’s garden, or distributing books in airports and universities in both the West and South-East Asia, I always felt rightly situated. The system that Srila Prabhupad established is Daivi-Varnasrama Dharma. The instructions on the other “50%” are found in his books, which are left for us to establish. Nothing is lacking-it ever-existing and fully complete. And for this insignificant jiva, it started with just one simple question. Thank you both for discussing this topic. Hare Krishna.
When a debate between kalakantha and bhakti vikasa? Why only talking through proxy? This discussion are needed
Truthfully I think it is because no one wants to go against BVKS. Maharaja is more than willing to do a discussion/debate on any topic. When his book Women:Masters or Mothers came out,, as well as on the topic of FDG, he has said anyone who disagrees may come and they may discuss as vaisnavas using Guru, Sadhu and Sastra as standard. No one took up the challenge.
Protection is Definitely Good..but unfortunately In Iskcon hundreds women have been neglected beaten & Sexually abused.
Really like H.G.Kalakantha 👍 👌 dandavats .❤
FDG promotion was the last video of Bhakti Caru before he flew from India to the USA and Maya took him out. Womp womp
When in the society there is not a living Acharya, then so many question and answers arise, and nobody know how to resolve the problems. May be some one mention some comment of Prabhupada to confirm his opinion, and another also mention some comment opposite to other to confirm his opinion. This is kali yuga. Better is to chant the holy name and forget everything. At the end of life, everyone will reap what they have sown.
There is always a pure devotee on the planet so the souls can follow Bhagavad Gita 4.34
THEY ARE BRAINWASH
Everybody wants varnasrama nobody want to be the sudhra
Firstly establish HDG as Diksha guru in iskcon then talk on other subjects Prabhuji … Please accept my humble obeisances all glories too Srila Prabhupada … Hare Krsna
Diksha is a ritual, a performance of an act.. .is that possible when the initiator is not physically present. I think not. How can SP perform a Disha ceremony. How will u assess whether he approves of anyone you may chose to act on his behalf. To act as officiating. How can one presume to take an office, to officiate. If you haven't been appointed to do so.for ever. If even one has been appointed say by Srila Prabhupada's, then what happens when that appointee dies..
My heartfelt belief is we should not change anything; keep all as it was when ISKCON was in its early blossoming stage, so pure and vibrant. (Except now that the world is even more dangerous, during walking Harinam, best to have one or two mature men always guarding the ladies if they’re behind the men/ if they’re in front or side by side i don’t believe Prabhupada would have any disagreement with that either, but I feel in my heart he wouldn’t like the new “showgirl” style where ladies wear lots of makeup and dance in unison like Harinam is a performance. He always was very much against when devotees acted like it was a musical concert ~ he wanted sincerity of heart to be the first consideration) If the original 12 or so leaders put in place by His Divine Grace to perform initiations after he went to be with Krsna would have done so with great care and great humility, continuing to see themselves as a proxy or “monitor guru” exactly as when Prabhupada was physically present, not accepting grand worship meant for Krsna and the uttamaadikhari, the Paramahamsa Srila Prabhupada, things would have never gone off the rails as they did. Thousands of sincere disciples gradually left the movement or were kicked out because they disagreed with the craziness, often brutally and heartlessly. That error messed everything up completely and it is still suffocating the healthy growth of ISKCON.
Iskcon is useless , thats if you want to go home .Prabupada "no one wants.to go home".The fact they have manipulated and exploiated his books , taken position as illegal guru ( if you call that being guru) , destroyed many of his temples, ashrams,community farms .They also introduced so much nonsense and garbage .Raping and shunning the lady devotee ( demoniac sadism.) Turned.into a buisness , watered down to the nth degree .Jealous of Prabupada's disciples and.gossip mongers.Stupid fools, foolsh pretenders .MADU SANGA .Repect to prabu for.speaking for Srila Prabupada .Hare Krsna .Jai Srila Prabupada , Sri,Sri Gaur Nitai .
They destroyed the temple in Birmingham ( England) .Great service to Prabupada ( i think not).Bhogus.books and Bhogus illegal Gurus .Criminal.Jai Srila Prabupada, Sri, Sri Gaur , Nitai .
I am genuinely inspired by Kalakantha Prabhu's clear, knowledgeable, and pragmatic approach to presenting the topic of varnashrama. As Srila Prabhupada said, "we judge by the results," and Kalakantha has consistently shown impressive results over time. He is undoubtedly onto something significant, which could greatly benefit preaching efforts in the U.S. Kalakantha is experienced, knowledgeable, and practical, demonstrating proven results while maintaining his commitment as a serious practitioner of Bhakti yoga.
Just look at the overall divorce from ignoring gender roles in iskcon and wider America, gender roles are the dance between the genders, ignoring these gender-roles has lead to Madd divorce.
WE ARE NOT HINDUS, AND WE ARE NOT TRAINING THESE BOYS TO BECOME HINDUS. We are training them to love Krsna, God. (SP Conversation Japan 1972 - Bhurijana Dasa MGM)
Ritvik Prabhupadanuga Proof Entire Playlist all senior devotees Garga Muni,Madhu Pandit Dasa, Gauridasa Pandit Dasa, Yashoda Nandana Dasa ACBSP ruclips.net/p/PLNyvgaBuOihS4CQyJLmIlA7lSMzRCN_fQ BOOK CHANGES Professor Graham M Schweig - atrocity of editing Srila Prabhupadas books academic standard ruclips.net/video/Mis6E2nJw5c/видео.html HG Yaśodā-nandana Dāsa ACBSP - no other vaishnava samparadaya edits the books of their Acharya ruclips.net/video/bD5IzAXt9qY/видео.html Moola Grantha definite edition of Madhva Sampradaya Books necessary in ISKCON - Yaśodā nandana Dāsa ruclips.net/video/0Jk-4lrUvRU/видео.html Pseudo devotees in the Krishna Consciousness Society book change ruclips.net/video/l4rOg1ZcJDg/видео.html
Iskcon BG as it is 2.31.....purport(last sentence).the word varnashram Dharma has been replaced by higher authority.they are just poisoning prabhupadas Books.
No wonder , so many are confused , so complicated.Simple for the simple , complicated for the complicated .They don't represent.Srila Prabupada , bhogus illegal gurus, manipulation and exploitation of Prabupada's divine books, destroying his.temples for.buisness( money), envious householders , envious.students , murders , raping and.shunnig Mataji .Homosexuals , lesbians , paedofiles .The Iskcon , i knew in the70's was Pure and.very good .Today, chidish and immature , just a buisness and in many ways criminal.Very distasteful. When Srila Prabupada was on the.planet , no bhogus books, no bhogus guru .There is no pure devotee in iskcon .The disese is "i am the controller" .Mayadevi is pulling the strings .Jai Srila Prabupada , Sri , Sri Gour, Nitai .
i love the wisdom His Grace Kalakantha Prabhu shares in this important video teaching. I was blessed to spend almost two years traveling with His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupad as His cook and personal servant, and as a result i got to hear Him say so many things that are in alignment with the Krishna conscious position Kalakantha Prabhu exemplifies so well. Here are a couple of stories that support the equality and often superiority of the Vaishnavis... One morning in Los Angeles when i had just started serving His Divine Grace at His home in the middle class section of Beverly Hills, about five miles from the old La Cienega temple, i came into His room just after sunrise to bring Him fresh water and a garland for the day, and He asked me to play the recording of Her Grace Yamuna Devi Dasi singing the Govindam Prayers. George Harrison had just produced the Radha Krishna temple album and it became a daily practice to play that recording for Him. Srila Prabhupad would listen with His lotus eyes closed most of the time and often showed symptoms of spiritual ecstasy like tears and trembling because of the spiritual depth and potency of her singing. One morning He said... "You know, I have been thinking of making Yamuna Prabhu a GBC member... she is fully qualified, but it is not time yet. The men would misunderstand and create too many unnecessary difficulties." Yamuna Prabhu and i were in the first group of Srila Prabhupad's disciples to go to India, and she became one of my best friends and spiritual confidantes. Another time, a group of men came into Srila Prabhupad's room and complained that the way the temple room was set up, with the men on one side and the ladies on the other, there was too much distraction from maya by the fact that the ladies were in their direct line of sight, and they tended to look at them rather than put their attention on the Deities. They asked Srila Prabhupad if they could move to the back of the temple instead, and when Srila Prabhupad heard this, He chastised them loudly and said... "THIS IS NONSENSE! If you can't focus on Radha and Krishna when They are standing right in front of you, how will you be able to remember Them when you are on the street doing sankirtan and book distribution? If anyone should move to the back of the temple it should be you!" All glories to His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupad. All glories to all the assembled devotees. All glories to all the Vaishnavis who give the men strength.
Ritvik Prabhupadanuga Proof Entire Playlist all senior devotees Garga Muni,Madhu Pandit Dasa, Gauridasa Pandit Dasa, Yashoda Nandana Dasa ACBSP ruclips.net/p/PLNyvgaBuOihS4CQyJLmIlA7lSMzRCN_fQ BOOK CHANGES Professor Graham M Schweig - atrocity of editing Srila Prabhupadas books academic standard ruclips.net/video/Mis6E2nJw5c/видео.html HG Yaśodā-nandana Dāsa ACBSP - no other vaishnava samparadaya edits the books of their Acharya ruclips.net/video/bD5IzAXt9qY/видео.html Moola Grantha definite edition of Madhva Sampradaya Books necessary in ISKCON - Yaśodā nandana Dāsa ruclips.net/video/0Jk-4lrUvRU/видео.html Pseudo devotees in the Krishna Consciousness Society book change ruclips.net/video/l4rOg1ZcJDg/видео.html
Thank you for sharing this. By the way, What is your name prabhu?
@@verdadescomodas my spiritual name is Nanda Kumar das... Srila Prabhupad gave me that name at my initiation ceremony in Los Angeles in June of 1969
Hare Krishna Nanda Kumar Prabhu! This is Lilananda dasa, your former assistant cook from New Vrindavan back in 1986. You may remember me as the one who mostly made capatis. I am delighted to reach out to you and hope that this message finds you well.
to say scripture is the ultimate "tie breaker" is simply mental concoction. No one can understand scripture WITHOUT a genuine Guru.
Gurus come and go, sastra remains the same. Gurus also arrange things according to time and circumstances which also change. So no, it's not a mental concoction.
ignore Lord Chaitanya's conclusion at your own risk, a brilliant presentation Kalakanta Prabhu!
Not important right now. Serious distraction from what needs to get out to the world. Hari Nam in public, prasadam distribution in public and book distribution in public.
The comment by the host that scripture is the final arbiter, among guru, shastra and sadhu, is not accurate. As Kalakantha pointed out, scripture can be interpreted different ways by different people. The guru's understanding of scripture is key for the disciple. "Yasya deve para bhaktir....." For one who has unflinching faith in Guru and Krishna, the essence of the scriptures is automatically revealed. Of course the guru must be bona fide, like we have in Srila Prabhupada. This leads into the unfortunate situation where some people have changed some of the translations of Prabhupada's books, based on their speculative understanding of scripture, by which they felt justified overriding some verses that Prabhupada himself had observed, read and preached from. This pseudo scholarly attitude is so dangerous and offensive. It is how the teachings eventually become lost, and Krishna has to come again, or send His representative. Regarding Varnashrama, Prabhupada also stated in the early days in America, Kali Yuga had progressed so far that Varnashrama was impossible to reestablish. No students in universities, or other young people in the west were practicing celibacy while in school and before marriage, among other things. In India also, Varnashrama had degraded into understanding caste was by birth, not qualification, and traditional brahmin families and almost everyone else, followed very few standards, if any, while still claiming privilege. When questioned by Lord Chaitanya of what was the most important thing to make human life successful, Ramananda Raya replied "following Varnashrama", Lord Chatanya said "no, go deeper'. As KK prabhu mentions, it was only later when Prabhupada saw sanyasis falling down, he thought going back to more basics of Varnashrama would be helpful, as keeping higher standard of Vaishnava sanyasi vows, was also extremely difficult for most. A question remains, who would decide who is in what varna, and when? Traditionally, a guru would see the qualities of a student, and recognize those qualities of goodness, passion, a mix passion and ignorance, or more of ignorance, and guide accordingly. Where is that opportunity now? In our Gurukulas? What about people who are already done with education and working? How to tell them what varna they should be in and why? We also know, everyone in Kaliyuga is basically born as a shudra, according to scripture. Kalau sundra sambhava.. Who has the vision and potency execute a Varnasrama system?... Not an easy task.
Gaslighting.
explain please
Our only business is constantly begging while loudly chanting the outdoor Hare Krishna sankirtana daily. Anything else without such conclusion is going to be the source of bewilderment.
Thank you, Maharaj. I wish you all success.
WONDERFUL TALK! love it!
I visited the Atlanta temple recently for a festival, I was the only white person there.
That is a sad state of affairs
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Such a nice Class. Thanks a lot. Haribol
stupid video to the core. Leave these matters to the GBC. these matters are not to be made videos of and shown to the whole world.
Bhakti Caru Swamii!!!kii Jay!!
Srila Prabhupada Never made any Vaisnavi Not even a GBC what to speak of Initiating Guru...so in future will ISKCON include Vaisnavi GBC?
Hare Krishna Guru maharaja dandabath pranam 🌹 🙏
If we are not the body, but Spiritsouls, the Lord see all as Spiritsouls, not Exactly as Male or Female, why can't Male Devotees. I am a Doctor of Divinity, in most circles, I am an equal Spiritually with men,, I do ceremony in many religions, except 2, KC and Muslim even though I've studied and know well. God, Krishna, puts no limits on us period, but men do. Much love to your HH.
pranams maharaja. i appreciate your relaxed, astute, approach, devoid of subtle status games. all respect to your service, nandapatni dd
With all due respect, it is somewhat galling to hear this talk when you Kalakantha crushed the women's preaching center I was running as a 'woman' in Baltimore., next to Johns Hopkins University. We had so many students coming and distributing books, and you crushed it quoting that women should be treated as children. Just when we were really gaining traction you dismantled the whole thing. I have never forgotten that one. It was utterly crushing. Especially as I had been on a womens' party traveling all over North India selling Prabhupada's books. So yes.... it is pretty galling . , but then on the gracious side perhaps you have learnt to see women as Vaisnavas and not just women. Nandapatni dd
Hare Krsna, yes, that sounds horrible... SO much of ISKCON history is painful, I have been involved since 1976 and have seen much,....trust me, it's not easy to forgive and evolve, and so, I often ask..Krsna...why!?!?!...but these are the challenges that we have been dealt. I have also made a few serious mistakes, these are difficult turbulent times. May Krsna always bless you for your sincere service. your servant, Yasomatinandana Dasa
We're all children , Prabupada said "man 13 year old , women 9 year old" .The ladies of the movement are special souls .Humble respect and bravo for distributing Prabupada's divine.books .Krsna bless you greatly forever.Jai Srila.Prabupada , Sri, Sri Gaur, Nitai.Hare Krsna .
@@jonthoreson6654 Thankyou .
Please enable closed captioning for those who are hard of hearing or have difficulty understanding various accents. Thank you and Hare Krishna!
ISKCON leadership was constantly in war with Prabhupada and especially with all these thousands of rank&file Prabhupada disciples who built up global ISKCON in the seventies. The GBC gurus used these Prabhupada disciples to make new devotees and also train these new devotees. As a thank you, they were eventually thrown out with perfidious tricks. Then the ISKCON leaders had the problem that the temples were all independent non-profit organizations. Gradually the ISKCON lawyers accomplished so that all ISKCON temples are now centralized. Much to the detriment of the temple congregations, which no longer have any say in their own temple administration.
How about protecting women by empowering them as Śrīla Prabhupāda recommends? This is so simple for those whose focus is to please and service Śrīla Prabhupāda and spread the sankirtana movement. (But this topic is a different matter. It should be outside the discussion of varnashrama. Keep discussions to one topic at a time!)
Kalakantha Prabhu ki-jaya!
One problem in discussions on "varnashrama" is the expansion of the discussion to all aspects of Vedic culture. If we keep it to just the actual implementation of the varnas and ashramas then it becomes a simpler and more scientific endeavor. Even vaishnavas serve in a particular varna. For example, Sri Krishna told Arjuna to do his duty in Krishna consciousness. That is repeated numerous times in the Gita. His final instruction to "abandon all varieties of religion" is meant to emphasize atma-nivedanam, that is, to make the focus of one's life to please Krishna, over and above simply performing one's material duties. It is not meant as a repudiation of varnashrama-dharma.