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@@PerryEarl Hi, I own some but I haven’t tried them yet. I would imagine they would be good on skatelite but it all depends on you as a skater , what your experience is etc. I know for sure the 99’s are very good and I have zero complaints about using them on skatelite.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding if you do get around to trying them, I would love to hear what you think. Seeing as I’m in Florida where it’s usually a hundred and Hell degrees outside, and I’m typically in concrete bowls, I think I’m gonna go with the 101a ones and just see how they work next time I’m at a sk8lite spot. Thanks for the reply, and keep me in mind if you get around to trying them out too.

@@PerryEarl Cool, I will although it may be quite some time as i dont like to switch things out too often. the only reservations i would have would be on indoor wood surfaces that might be dusty which will make things slippery but skatelite and concrete should be fine.

@@friscotecsk8s119 thank you 👍🏻😉 when I rode my speedlab 101a’s a few years ago they felt very comparable to the spitfire 99’s so I think they would work very well on the vert ramps . The only reason I swapped back was because I flat spotted one hitting a tiny rock in a concrete park. They actually very kindly send me a replacement for free which was awesome but I didn’t switch them back again. I think I made a couple of videos about them but it would be interesting to revisit them next time I get an itch to mix things up again.

Sounds like a familiar and common story!

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That's my Bowl wheel, too. With Super Red Ceramics. Love 'em.

@@bennyg949 I’m much preferring the 84b’s than the x99’s

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding yeah that’s interesting actually. I got on a mates board with 99s and i just hated the fee of wheels. Im a big fan on the dragons ( both 97 and 93a ) but these 99s have got my attention. I just have crap knees so any absorption is great

@@bennyg949 Even the x99’s feel too soft for me spitfire 99’s feel way harder, the 84b’s are noticeably faster and I’ve not had any slipping issues on any terrain yet.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding think i might have to try these x99. Just to set my head😵‍💫

@@bennyg949 personally I can’t consciously feel something like absorption through wheels and I think there would be way more benefit to just wearing shoes with an EVA midsole and some decent insoles, wheel wise for me it’s all about grip vs speed. I’m not going ride skinny contact patch street wheels blasting around a bowl because they will slip out and will be too small and slow anyway so a big and hard wheel that can grip on all terrains was my target and these x99’s just didn’t quite do it for me but if you are used to dragons you should notice an improvement. But I feel like they are a step backwards from 99 spitfires.

@@grampsskateboarding4814 I’m not a street skater so none of that applies to me, but then neither is Tony hawk these days 🤔 😜

If you are used to 100a I think you’ll find these soft but there’s a lot that depends on whether you like them or not so it’s really hard for anyone else to say.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding I absolutely love them after a first session.

@@manashieldmedia cool 👍🏻😉

On the mini ramp ? It was a feeble rock n roll

I don’t think they compare to formula four 99 at all. Way softer and slower feeling to me.

I just dont feel like they are what I’m looking for, too soft, quiet and slow compared to SPF and I’m not slipping with the SPF’s so far. I do t skate anything crusty but as I said I’ll keep them in my bag just in case I do.

I have not, everything I’ve tried so far is in this video.

​@@NeilHesterSkateboarding kk thankyou have a good one

I have tried them on someone else’s board but yes they aren’t what I’m looking for in a wheel. 6 years ago it might have been a different story because I was skating 95a wheels but now I’m on a different path.

The Bones XF and PP Dragon formula are the same formula - the X97 and X99 are harder versions of the 93a Dragons.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding I've gone on the same journey. Started back on 90a Rat Bones, then 95a OJs, some OG 95a Rat IIs, some other thing that was too soft, now on Spitfire Classics 99a which are great. Have had the same experience with 'too quiet' wheels, and too slow wheels on ramp especially, but don't like too hard either. Might have to try the 97a Dragons.

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More details! How are they holding up how long ya had em hows the slide hows the grip? I skate mostly parks and im trying to find the perfect wheel 😭

@@manashieldmedia Been riding them 4 months (weekly skate), slide well and good grip on wood and concrete. I live in the US and so the parks I ride are generally smooth anyway. I def recommend them but wheel preference and feel is very subjective. Give em a try, they come in around $30.

Cool, as I say I’ve had a strange relationship with bones wheels , l’m liking the 84b on concrete but despite trying hard just can’t get on with the x99’s but I deliberately avoid rough parks.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding It really comes done to park and personal preference. I don't think there is a one size fits all. It is skateboarding. We all have a little things. And that's ok and a great thing about skateboarding.

@AdventuresInSkateboarding Agreed 👍🏻

@@Jon17London you must be psychic 😜 Friday is old man’s night at baysixty6 see you there ?

@@diplenski I guess it depends what you are looking for and for what surfaces alongside your likes and dislikes. Back in the 90’s I loved a quiet board so any kind of rattle annoyed me but now I just want speed and grip and harder wheels just feel way faster than the x99’s to me. Even the spitfires feel way harder and faster. Softer wheels just feel sluggish for me and deliberately avoid rough surfaces because I have enough choice of smooth parks and ramps. I don’t skate street, only transition so that also focuses my needs and desired even closer.

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@@NeilHesterSkateboarding i love it when local skate shops actually get stuff like that, i once bought a board to put together together and the owner threw in 3 sets of free spacers because the wheels i had picked would wheel bite if i turned to quickly, i offered to pay and they said "nah, its good, its what we do, just find what feels best and keep the others in case you get different wheels"

@@kevinmorrice cool , yeah that’s why real Skateshop’s were always better than online shopping.

I think I had about half an hour of incredibly bad balance where I couldn’t even kick turn on the transition then it kinda clicked and started to feel comfortable but I’m glad I didn’t have to relearn axle stalls, rock fakies and tail stalls from scratch they just worked with a bit of applied confidence. But yeah a huge reason I started again was for the exercise and it was really rough going for the first few months I even got shin splints (pain in my shins) from over doing it. Pads definitely helped me overcome the fear of falling.

Thanks I’m happy to hear you find them enjoyable 👍🏻

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Cool thanks😉 I’m happy to hear My videos are useful to you and I hope your enjoying the skating 👍🏻

Did your Bronsons come with washers? You only really need one washer either side of the wheel and they should look identical anyway.

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Thanks mate 👊🏼

For a first visit and still had in my mind that it felt slippery my first time a few years ago I wasn’t going to push it , I just wanted to get comfortable with what I already knew. I started doing the steps a couple of sessions later. I know what you mean about tight transitions, even this one looks quite tame but it’s actually very tight and the shallow end is only about 3 and half feet deep but goes pretty much to vert so even dropping in is quite a whip.

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Unfortunately it seems like a lot of wheels don’t have particularly accurate bearing seats so they are sometimes a little bit too shallow or deep so the spacers aren’t an exact fit, it’s ok to loosen them off a tiny bit to get them spinning right but better if your wheels and spacers are well matched to allow you to tighten them properly.

@NeilHesterSkateboarding ye might see if I can find slightly longer spacers.i have some zealous built ins but the don't spin for ages like my others. Thanks for the reply 👍

@NeilHesterSkateboarding I've seen alot of videos where people leave the wheel with quite a bit of play up and down a good 3 or 4mm but surely that amout of travel isn't good... my wheels spin amazing like that but can't handle the noise

@MrGough22 yeah your bearings won’t last as long if that are smashing around with a lot of play so you want to minimise the movement but if they are are so tight they and making the wheel not spin that will put unnecessary load in the bearing too. You can try installing another washer between the spacer and a bearing to effectively increase the width of the spacer enough to take up the difference if you think it’s a big gap. It’s ok to have a tiny tiny bit of play because there will be some movement in the bearing assembly itself but you don’t want the wheel sloppy on the axle.

I use Santa Cruz cellblocks they are nice and hard like pig rails so slide really well but are deeper so you can space them further apart on a deck with deeper concave without bottoming out the middle of the deck. They are definitely my favourite so far. The Powell ones are too soft for my liking too asides from the poor production quality so don’t slide as well.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding awesome, I'll check them out.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding my first ever set of rails were Santa Cruz cell blocks I think, late 80s.

Neil, are they the Santa Cruz Slime Line rails? Can't find cell block ones.

@@mistersootyyeah they are basically the same thing 👍🏻

Thanks 👍🏻 go get em ! 👊🏼

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Not anymore, the surface has been skimmed its very grippy.

@NeilHesterSkateboarding I'll check it out in the Autumn then or sooner if it doesn't stop raining

Thanks, Drop in's on vert are my weakenss. I'm afraid of heights and although I've been dropping in on vert for about 4 years it never gets any easier. I also find this ramp especially difficult for speed as its quite a tight transition and "small" / cramped feeling for a vert ramp (11ft) I do feel more confortable with speed on slightly bigger ramps (have a look at some of my shorts videos) but unfortunatley, i just dont skate vert enough to get the kind of exposure and improvements that i get from the other terrians i ride more often.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding Yeah completely understand, I'm the same. One of my personal skating achievements is dropping into the Harrow pool (f#@ked up transition). If it wasn't for the great British weather, I'd say forget the ramp and stick to the pool. You seem more comfortable with those dimensions and of course that tile and coping!

Ha! well if I didn’t start skating vert I wouldn’t be anywhere near as good as I am on anything else. Not saying I’m good but I’d be a whole lot worse.

So the same as mine then, I’m finding them good on skatelite and fast but a little too quiet which feels weird 😂 I was hoping they would be more like 99 spitfires but they feel softer. On concrete they feel very similar to the spitfires and sound ok too.

Cool, glad to hear you found it useful 😉👍🏻

A rare dabble in the dark side 😜 but the only street I will skate is a curb and it’s been over 2 years since the last time but I was actually there skating the mini ramp bowl and just had a go on the curb before I left. Haven’t tried the LM’s yet but I can’t see me getting rid of them in a hurry 😆

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding I’ve got the 57mm LM ones. I think they are about 10 years old and they still run lovely.

@@marcelboogaard3809 Cool, ive got some older ones too in 56mm but they were kinda too small for my liking but I kept them just because they were cool looking.

I think the acceleration part can be ignored for skateboarding since any difference wheel size could affect will be very easily negated by just puting a bit more effort in to your push or pump, bigger wheels will also be better on rough srufaces and then all you need to consider is the hardness.

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I think with all wheels you kinda have to give them a good few runs in concrete to take the slick off the surface and rough them up a bit, I think the formula 4’s get better the more you run them in. On wood they are verging on “slippery” but the extra width of the full conicals counter that , bones SPF are way more slippery on wood and I think that’s partly due to their thin contact patch. These bones X99’s are feeling somewhere in between but very close to the F4’s I’ve never tried classics but their width made me think they wouldnt be quite as grippy as the full conicals but I didn’t really think any further than than enough to want to try them.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding the Classics came in a 60mm that was full conical, same shape as the ones you use. All the other sizes were a skinnier shape but the 60s were perfect. Then they bought out the "OG Classics" with more full conical shapes so I got some 58s just because the purple went better with my deck. I'm sure you'd love them but they all seem to be F44 now, hard to find the Classic Formula, and as I say it doesn't last as well. Those Lance Mountain ones look rad.

@mistersooty ah ok all the classics I’ve seen were narrower, it’s pretty hard to find 60mm of anything here all the Skateshops seem to only go as big as 58mm but I didn’t want to try the classic formula either and wanted to stick to formula 4 which these LM’s are so I think I’m set.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding yeah the classics are way too confusing now anyway and you never really know which ones you're going to end up with when ordering online. I think I'm going to give my F44 Full Conicals another try. They seem to work for you.

@@mistersooty yeah formula 4 are pretty hard to beat I always recommend them to anyone asking what wheels they should get for a good all surface choice.

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I haven’t, they don’t seem to be sold here but maybe I’ll try them one day. I hope they aren’t as over hyped as Rockin Ron’s rockets , Bones Swiss are way better than them.

I haven’t seen those but I wouldn’t want them any wider than these ones.