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Don't worry about the length, I definitely appreciate the insight! I definitely agree that hobbyists have been pushed around and harassed online for not being "perfect" at their chosen craft, you're absolutely correct about that. I wanted the title of my video to be short enough to catch people's attentions, and then hopefully they'd listen to my video and understand that I didn't mean "all artists" online! My idea is more about artists taking the craft of art seriously, as in considering it a serious practice and not just a hobby. Obviously many artists are not interested in the professional field whatsoever, but I feel like they should be able to accept that some advice is simply not pertinent to them and move on. Hobbyists are definitely a large backbone within art being so popular and prevalent online, and I would never want to imply that they should absolutely follow what I, or anyone else, says. I really appreciate that your comment addressed so many things! It gives me a lot to think about and I appreciate how respectful you were about it! I would love to expand more on this topic in the future and possibly readdress what I said here, but right now I am just finding my feet on social media/youtube as a whole and just wanted to push this out there to the world! I am really happy you commented, it really helps me !!!

@@divyasoup well the thumbnail did catch my attention (honestly I very rarely click on thumbnails like that or art advice videos in general because I recognize that a lot of them aren't really for me) and I was willing to hear out what you said in the video and I was pleasantly surprised to find someone I can agree with. I'm glad my comment was something that could help you and that it wasn't taken negatively. Good luck with your channel

Oh, this is a great addition to my video, wow! You're right, I didn't consider how art teachers in middle and high school might provoke this side of people's thoughts! I definitely think art teachers job's (and hearts) are in the right place, like, their job is to teach people the fundamentals of creating, not the hobbyist's methods, but I definitely see how people would resent that. I think it's very difficult for industrial and professional level artists to become content creators because it takes up SO MUCH time being a creative! A lot of the work is under NDA's and other restrictions, so they don't have time to do their job and then make so much content for free! I am definitely hoping to put my two cents into the art community online and express my own thoughts, opinions, and education on social media, so I'm really delighted that people are interested in what I have to say. Thank you so much for your thoughts!

Oh, that's a very interesting thought process. I'm honestly not sure I know that much, I've only just graduated (from art school) recently, so I think I'm definitely more on the limited side. With that being said, I do have enough experience that I hope I am skilled enough to talk about all of this! It's my hope to become a professional within the art industry as soon as possible, so hopefully I'll have better thoughts and advice then!!! Thank you for your advice, I think it's a very possible reason for this!!!

I definitely find that the influx of short-form media across various social media has done this! I definitely think you're hitting the mark here, especially considering that a lot of what I make tends to be on a platform that has a large age variance and is short-form content. This is a really detailed and really appreciated comment, thank you so much for taking the time to think about what I'm saying and responding !!!

There is professional art video content out there, but in my experience, it's usually long form and behind a paywall of some sort.

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yes, if you didn't create the artwork and you are reposting it, you need explicit permission from the artist. otherwise it's stealing

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It was definitely a wrist work-out, lol. They seem to be working well though, I just need to water them daily like a plant!

Thank you!!! Like I said in the video, I have used them before, but I'm definitely also pretty new to them as well. I appreciate that you think I'm using them pretty well, haha! Birds are such a fun shape and I'm really enjoying the subject mater right now, they're so great, you're right!

Okay! I'm still figuring out how and what I want to post, but if what I'm posting right now is good, then I'll keep doing that! I think nuance has been lost a lot across the internet, especially due to education differences across the globe and the youth of the majority of internet users! I definitely think CSP is a worthy purchase, especially since it's actually very similar to Photoshop. I think it's super easy to figure out one if you know the other!

@@divyasoup I think i just need to set aside time to learn it. I have a 6month trial via Samsung. Its just My head being like "well you already know this app (PS) why learn another?" lol I think i will tho cause as much as i like PS there are a lot of issues.

@@ImEverlove Thankfully CSP follows the same type of keyboard shortcuts and layout that Photoshop does, so you should have a really easy transition over to the platform. Best of luck!!!

There is no real maximum on Photoshop. It really depends on your computer's functionality, but there is no hard limit. The program will slow down, however it will not prevent you from creating more layers. Similarly, you are not limited with your canvas size. Procreate has a point where increasing canvas size lowers your layers significantly. I have the iPad Pro 2022 model, which is extremely powerful for a tablet, and the limitations are pretty extensive once you get into higher DPI (300, 600) and larger canvas sizes (A5 and larger, I believe). This is a pretty severe setback, even if the reasoning is for smooth runtime with Procreate. I think there are a lot of smaller details that cause issues too, like the fill tool and the transform tool. Both are finicky and have limited settings. The transform tool lowers the quality of the object transformed significantly, while the fill tool can only apply itself in certain situations and cannot be edited. The animation assist tool is super limited, which is fine because Procreate Dreams exists now, however it's also a disappointing app to me, so it's not a good fix there. Overall the differences are up to individual preferences. I do not appreciate the limitations that Procreate has, so I use Clip Studio Paint on my iPad, a program I also use on my laptop. All this being said, these limitations prevent Procreate from reaching the standard status that professional programs have.

Sorry, I'm not understanding the question. What do you mean by faces? Like different capabilities? Because if so, then no, I don't think that's necessary. It's more that Procreates functions are comparably rudimentary when compared to programs that are more robust, like Photoshop and Clip Studio Paint.

I'm not sure they'll ever get to a Mac version, as they've shown no interest and the app would have to be completely revamped! My best guess is they will continue to work on the app for a very long time, but unless they make significant build changes, I don't think it can be worked on indefinitely.

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@@divyasoup then i get it

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I'm glad it was helpful !!

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@@divyasoup I'm literally obsessed by the way you draw faces, it's so inspiring

​@@guilhermemartins8895thank you!! I base it off of oil paint techniques!

You also mention that it “does not look like a professional program.” Procreate has a very simplified UI, it’s done that way 1: to make it more approachable for beginners and 2: to reduce the amount of clutter on screen, providing a more streamlined user experience. Whether or not you like it is a different question, but having used Procreate and Photoshop extensively in multiple projects, most of what you have in photoshop is in some form within Procreate. (Aside from the tools designed for photo editing and manipulation) You also say that because it’s an IPad program it’s somehow not professional..? What do you mean here, a lot of professional artists and animators use tablets to make the process of digital art closer to traditional pen and paper art. I don’t see how this point changes anything.

@@mangoman1177 I would argue that Procreate cannot achieve a professional level because it's imprisoned itself to be an iPad only software. It's limited itself to being functional on every iPad device, meaning that it's not able to expand beyond the boundaries of what an iPad is capable of doing (which is absolutely a lot). Photoshop definitely has a myriad of capabilities that Procreate does not, but they're not necessarily used by everyone, so the difference is negligible I want to be clear, professionals can use any program and make professional quality artwork. An iPad does not have the capability to run a program that can be used for professional work in the industry at a level where you would not need to export it to other programs. There are more artist's than just illustrators and animators, and I would argue that the majority of illustrators and animators would prefer a more robust program. Overall, in a one minute short, I cannot really get into the nuances and different cases in which this isn't true. What I am firm in saying is that Procreate advertises itself as a program made for beginners and professionals, which is not accurate, because it's a counterpoint. Photoshop is inherently created for photo manipulation, the fact that you can draw in Photoshop does not make Procreate a similar product in any way. The point is simply that Procreate is not something used substantially enough in professional environments for it to be considered a "professional" program. I have seen a lot of artists consider Procreate the best art program ever, which limits their own abilities to try and learn new programs. It's, in my opinion, very disheartening and worrying to see people using only one program and considering it the best out there.

@@divyasoup people say the same thing about Adobe, affinity, and CSP, to name a few. I have always been careful to say that procreate is the best program *for me*. My use case is making art while being a father, so I don’t have time to sit at my desk and use my tablet monitor. Also, there are many use cases where procreate is all the artist needs. I’m thinking of people who make small things like stickers and Etsy products. There’s a lot of users out there who have found a way to make their art without paying subscription fees and for an expensive pen display. And there are just as many people who do the same with a Wacom bamboo tablet and a laptop. There’s many different people out there, and I don’t understand why you’d use a limiting minute-long format to talk about such a big issue/pov.

Also, by your logic Photoshop isn’t a professional art program either.

@@JakeTheLateCreates I believe you have inherently misunderstood the point of my video, I would appreciate it if you actually asked a question before just making a confusing comment. Clip Studio Paint was previously Manga Studio, which was still widely used as a professional manga, comic, and illustration program worldwide. I'm not sure why you asked me this question either.

@@divyasoup I was curious if you knew the history, that’s all. I was in art school when they were demoing Manga Studio. We all got beta licenses and freaked out about it. As to your point, if I didn’t understand it I’d like it if you clarified. What I took away was that you believe that Procreate isn’t a professional art program because it wasn’t created with professionalism in mind.

@@JakeTheLateCreates So objectively speaking, Procreate is not a professional program. It is really fantastic for illustration and sketching, but it's extremely limited due to it being on an iPad. Procreate has layer limitations, canvas size limitations, the limitation of being capable for every iPad, no matter the GPU or RAM, and it has a lot of smaller issues that are more personal than objective. I find that it's a great app and people can absolutely do a bulk of their work on it, even professional work, but it's missing a lot of tools and functions that would make it a "professional program." This doesn't mean that it's a bad program, just that it isn't technically a professional one. Professional programs tend to have an extreme amount of tools and be used for multiple different things, like with Photoshop being used for photo-manipulation, drawing, and also simple animation. Obviously it's main purpose is for photo-editing, but it has excess capabilities to ensure it's not forcing people to move elsewhere. Clip Studio Paint has all the tools for comics, which is it's intended purpose, but can be used for large frame-by-frame animation (in EX) and has an extensive illustration capability. It also offers vector capability, which is definitely not needed. Overall, Procreate is incredibly powerful, but it is a highly limited program and doesn't have the capabilities that you would expect from a professional program, regardless of whether you use all those features. In no way is my video meant to suggest that Procreate cannot be used by professionals or even used in a professional setting, just that it is not actually a professional program. I hope that clarifies things further, thanks.

Okay, I think I get it. I don’t agree that it’s not a professional program, as I feel that your definition is too restrictive. Plenty of programs and tools can be tailor-made for a specific purpose and still be considered “professional”. I do agree that Procreate is squarely targeted at illustration and painting, but that doesn’t prevent it from being a professional app. I’ve spoken with the devs, and they told me that the layer limit is to keep the app running smoothly, and I appreciate it. I’ve tried similar canvas sizes in other applications on the iPad and they all start to cubit, but for procreate it takes a truly big canvas an a large brush size to get to that point. I definitely agree that limiting themselves to iOS devices sucks and limits their growth potential, but that’s to keep the development costs down.

Thank you !!! I will keep working on posting video content!!!

Keep going!!! I mentioned combining studies with your personal interests because it's so easy to get bored or disillusioned with them. I'm so glad you liked the video, even if it was just an accidental click, lol! Art almost always feels like a struggle, but I think the end result and enjoyment is well worth it.

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This is true, of course, but not what I'm referring to. Across social media, many people, not even artists, see beginner artists work and just make fun of these artists and bully them to the point where they stop making art.

@@divyasoup I'm very glad i don't use social media outside of RUclips and Discord then.

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What a compliment omg! Thank you !!!

Happy to help!

I have an iPad Pro (11-inch) (3rd generation). I am using Clip Studio Paint!

@@divyasoup i see thank you for ur responded

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Super fair. I do that too sometimes. I'm used to doing underpaintings and using oil paint, so my technique is coming from there. I definitely struggle with proportion too, which is why I'm this is a reference study! Gotta get that practice in !

good!! it's intended as background watching, lol! a kinda draw with me type of video. I was using a reference, I don't think I could draw this without one!

Thank you !!! I appreciate it a lot!!